[DEFEATED] Repeal "Right of Emigration"

[Imperium Anglorum]

Repeal "Right of Emigration"
Category: Repeal

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This august World Assembly,

Observing that there is a provision to allow for emigration restriction in the case of criminal sentences, but also seeing that such a provision does not create a restriction for civil liabilities, and therefore concerned that the right of emigration could be used to evade court-mandated civil liabilities, such as child support,

Concerned that this right, in a world of extremely quick travel, could also be used to evade court summons and thereby deprive governments of much-needed evidence to substantiate criminal prosecutions,

Noting that because the resolution prevents emigration restrictions in times of war, mass emigration is likely, which would lead to labour shortages for war industries and stop the production of materiel needed for the defence of the nation, and

Further noting that the resolution states that 'no government may prevent the emigration of individuals from their nation', which, when combined with the existence of outbound border controls, requires nations to either choose to disband such outbound controls (and therefore be unable to measure population outflows) or be burdened with the massive costs of issuing passports to all citizens,

Hereby repeals 279 GA 'Right of Emigration'.

[Christian Democrats]

Believing that economic migration ought not be encouraged, as its widespread practice would make it impossible for less developed areas of the world to accumulate the human capital and labour force necessary to industrialise, and therefore make life worse for the people who remain

We strongly disagree with this clause. In general, laborers should be free to travel where demand and pay are highest.

[Schutzenphalia and West Ruhntuhnkuhnland]

"Your repeal makes a number of different arguments, and I wonder if that's really a wise strategy. You may gain the support of nations who only agree with all of them, but lose support from those who oppose particular arguments.

"For example, we don't agree with your conclusions regarding economic migration: at the Schutzenphalian Development Bank, researchers have found that the impact of remittances (money sent back home) generally means such economic migration is a net positive for sending nations. That may very well not be the experience of the Imperium, but including the argument reduces our likelihood of supporting the repeal because we wouldn't want to endorse such a view. The same goes for the somewhat confusing provision with respect to wartime materiel, and the implication that your nation would seek to replace this with legislation that would bar people from leaving a warzone!

"Why not just concentrate on the first argument, regarding civil liabilities? It seems like a strong argument, and a resolution need only have one argument mounted against it to be repealed. We absolutely support repeal of this resolution, but we would not, at this time, support this draft."

~ Katinka von Ausserkundszell
Second Deputy Under-Secretary to the Foreign and Colonial Office

[Imperium Anglorum]

"For example, we don't agree with your conclusions regarding economic migration: at the Schutzenphalian Development Bank, researchers have found that the impact of remittances (money sent back home) generally means such economic migration is a net positive for sending nations.

PARSONS: Hmm. We don't believe that remittances are widespread enough to outweigh the loss in economic output by someone leaving their originating society. However, we are eminently practical about this point and would certainly be willing to remove it for broader support. (OOC: I didn't really consider remittances when drafting. However, this response here is basically that an early-20th century Empire would not have a developed payments system to efficiently transfer the large amounts of cash which widespread remittances necessarily entail.)

[Whovian Tardisia]

Pink picks up the proposal and scans through it. His eye begins to twitch at the sight of two obvious spelling and grammar errors. He pulls out a red pen and corrects them.

Noting that because the resolution prevents emigration restrictions in times of war, mass emigration is likely, which would lead to labour shortages for war industries, and thereby stop the production of material needed for the defence of the nation, and

He then calmly hands his copy back to Ambassador Parsons and returns to his seat, trying to calm himself down as he does.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Noting that because the resolution prevents emigration restrictions in times of war, mass emigration is likely, which would lead to labour shortages for war industries, and thereby stop the production of material needed for the defence of the nation, and

[Whovian Tardisia]

Huh. TIL "materiel" was an actual word. Apologies for my inferior vocabulary.

[Merni]

Further noting that the resolution states that 'no government may prevent the emigration of individuals from their nation', which, when combined with border controls, requires nations to either choose to disband such controls or be burdened with the massive costs of issuing passports to all citizens,

"But states are not obliged to accept entry into their borders."

[Imperium Anglorum]

Further noting that the resolution states that 'no government may prevent the emigration of individuals from their nation', which, when combined with border controls, requires nations to either choose to disband such controls or be burdened with the massive costs of issuing passports to all citizens,

"But states are not obliged to accept entry into their borders."

PARSONS: We will clarify this clause and exactly what our argument is after I return from my holiday. (OOC: later today) I ought also note that I have selected this proposal to take the first step. We're confident that we will be ready for submission in four days.

[Araraukar]

We're confident that we will be ready for submission in four days.

OOC: Pulling an Umeria now?

[States of Glory WA Office]

Barbera: I hope that Lord Colonel His Grace Cyril Parsons, 1st Duke of Geneva, 1st Earl Parsons of Eastminster, 8th Viscount Parsons of Eastminster, 1st Baron Markenshire of Concilium, Knight of the Garter, Grand Cross of St Michael and St George, Privy Councillor, Member of Parliament for Those-Across-the-Seas; Proconsul Decimus; Permanent Representative to the World Assembly understands if we cannot support this repeal until a suitable replacement is presented.

Fairburn: I'd be more than happy to present a replacement.

Neville: Please, don't. Knowing you, you'd probably oblige member states to ban all emigration.

Fairburn: Quite the opposite, actually. Member states would be obliged to allow all emigration.

[Imperium Anglorum]

PARSONS: Replacement is unnecessary, as any replacement we would propose would basically be a blocker for further legislation on the topic. We therefore don't see any need for a replacement. We will be happy to repeal any future replacements as well.

[Araraukar]

Cyril, what exactly do you have against human rights?

OOC: These are the ones you currently have repeal drafts for:

Assisted Suicide Act
Category: Human Rights

Right of Emigration
Category: Human Rights

Rights of Crime Victims
Category: Human Rights

[Imperium Anglorum]

Cyril, what exactly do you have against human rights?

Parsons: I think there is a better question — why does everyone put everything in the human rights category?

[States of Glory WA Office]

Cyril, what exactly do you have against human rights?

Parsons: I think there is a better question — why does everyone put everything in the human rights category?

Neville: It's much easier to pass.

[Aclion]

Parsons: I think there is a better question — why does everyone put everything in the human rights category?

Neville: It's much easier to pass.

And nearly anything can go into it.

Believing that economic migration ought not be encouraged, as its widespread practice would make it impossible for less developed areas of the world to accumulate the human capital and labour force necessary to industrialise, and therefore make life worse for the people who remain

We strongly disagree with this clause. In general, laborers should be free to travel where demand and pay are highest.

Agreed, additionally lack of high skill labor is not a barrier to economic advancement; see Lilliputia( OCC many of BRICs or the Next Eleven) for example. It's possible to use the availability of cheap, low-skill labor and open trade to jump-start economic development, modernization and eventually create domestic demand for more skilled workers.

[Araraukar]

And nearly anything can go into it.

Certainly matters concerning the individuals' rights.

[Odinburgh]

Grammar error spotted: It is Immigration

[Wallenburg]

Grammar error spotted: It is Immigration

No, it isn't.

Definition of emigration in English:

emigration
NOUN

[mass noun] The act of leaving one's own country to settle permanently in another; moving abroad:

[Odinburgh]

Grammar error spotted: It is Immigration

No, it isn't.

Definition of emigration in English:

emigration
NOUN

[mass noun] The act of leaving one's own country to settle permanently in another; moving abroad:

Okay you are right.

[Calladan]

Believing that economic migration ought not be encouraged, as its widespread practice would make it impossible for less developed areas of the world to accumulate the human capital and labour force necessary to industrialise, and therefore make life worse for the people who remain

We strongly disagree with this clause. In general, laborers should be free to travel where demand and pay are highest.

And isn't it more likely that people are going to want to emigrate during times of war? When their cities and towns are being bombed, when their lives - especially the lives of their children - are in danger.

So wouldn't preventing them from doing that be..... wrong, somehow?

[Wallenburg]

This resolution is now at vote.

[Bakhton]

"The Supreme Court of Bakhton had this statement prepared in advance, as they had already reviewed this draft in the previous week if it came to vote. Here is a selected quote from the ruling.

Opinion of the Court:
MAJORITY: Justice Yin Zaitsu

'We find the suggested repeal lacking in specific and undeniable grievances, instead relying upon the possibilities of obscure loopholes and lack of recognition for wartime context. Both of these issues may easily be solved by laws of national governments and thus does not warrant a full repeal and replacement.' "

[Europe and Oceania]

We voted against this.

[Uncastania]

We have come to conclusion that in times of peace We gladly allow people to go where ever they like. But during difficult times, such as war, We are not willing to let just anybody come or leave our nation. Our priority is the needs and especially safety of our own citizens and our proud nation. Should our nation be attacked We would not allow people to move in or out until a safe passage could be granted for them. Even as We do encourage people to travel and see the world for themselves, We can not, and will not, let warfaring nationals to enter our borders just because. As you all know We have certain conditions for incoming foreigners. As one of these requirements is that they be able to support themselves for at least a year, We are not willing to change our laws for the betterment of foreigners. As long as We are not able to provide 100% employment, as some people in our nation require social welfare, as some people have no homes We are not willing to take in refugees for the simple reason that their country is at war.

By international agreements We are willing to offer sanctuary for a limited time for a reasonable amount of refugees. They will not, however, receive anything for free. Refugees We have agreed to accustom to will still need to be a proactive entity that makes its best to repay for any accumulated costs within reason. Therefore We have decided to vote 'YES' on this proposal. As is our custom, should We find war criminals, terrorists or jaywalkers amongst the refugees We do accept, they shall be extradited immediately back to where they come from. If such measure for some reason is impossible, We shall court marshal and execute them as such.