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Haqooqistan
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Marijuana

Postby Haqooqistan » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:35 pm

Understanding that the drug known as marijuana causes short- and long-term diseases;

Noting that the smoking of Marijuana pollutes the air and affects non-smokers through passive smoking;

Realizing that the drug causes genetic disorders;

Recognizing that usage of Marijuana often leads to addiction;

Further understanding that many people start using it out of curiousity or peer pressure;

Further noting that Marijuana users are a burden on welfare states;

Hereby tasks its member states to ban Marijuana immediately.

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NeuPolska
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Postby NeuPolska » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:38 pm

This is unlikely to get very far. Too many generalizations are made, and even then, a large chunk of NS is fairly liberal on these kinds of things, so it would got shot down pretty fast.

Not to mention there's an issue where players can choose whether to ban marijuana or not, so this resolution would be pointless.

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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:00 am

Haqooqistan wrote:Realizing that the drug causes genetic disorders;

"That's not how genes work."
Recognizing that usage of Marijuana often leads to addiction;

"As can involvement in or usage of alcohol, tobacco, sugar, caffeine, pornographic material, music, sports, and all sorts of other things."
Further understanding that many people start using it out of curiousity or peer pressure;

"As with all of the things I listed before."
Further noting that Marijuana users are a burden on welfare states;

"How so?"
Hereby tasks its member states to ban Marijuana immediately.

"Not an issue international importance, at least as currently written."
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Merni
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Postby Merni » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:38 am

NeuPolska wrote:This is unlikely to get very far. Too many generalizations are made, and even then, a large chunk of NS is fairly liberal on these kinds of things, so it would got shot down pretty fast.

Not to mention there's an issue where players can choose whether to ban marijuana or not, so this resolution would be pointless.

OOC: Rather, the issue would be pointless. (Since WA law overrides national law.)
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Schreibania
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Postby Schreibania » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:46 am

This kind of resolution will never be passed. I'm not saying I like the idea of legalising marijuana, but too many people do. The WA isn't for these kind of issues, but for what most agree to be a violation of human rights. Also, although this would override an issue, what about the original quiz when you found a nation? Legalizsng marijuana's there, so I'm not sure this is valid. But then again, I'm not a WA member, so what do I know?
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The Sheika
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Postby The Sheika » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:19 am

The use of a controlled substance, whether it is to legalize or ban said substance, is probably better handled at the national level. Good on you for posting a draft here, though. Perhaps if you could present more substance to your argument, you may be able to gain a little bit of traction but the odds of this passing are very poor.

Schreibania wrote:This kind of resolution will never be passed. I'm not saying I like the idea of legalising marijuana, but too many people do. The WA isn't for these kind of issues, but for what most agree to be a violation of human rights. Also, although this would override an issue, what about the original quiz when you found a nation? Legalizsng marijuana's there, so I'm not sure this is valid. But then again, I'm not a WA member, so what do I know?


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The Cheeki Breeki Anarchists
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Postby The Cheeki Breeki Anarchists » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:53 am

Haqooqistan wrote:Understanding that the drug known as marijuana causes short- and long-term diseases;

Noting that the smoking of Marijuana pollutes the air and affects non-smokers through passive smoking;

Realizing that the drug causes genetic disorders;

Recognizing that usage of Marijuana often leads to addiction;

Further understanding that many people start using it out of curiousity or peer pressure;

Further noting that Marijuana users are a burden on welfare states;

Hereby tasks its member states to ban Marijuana immediately.



I want to go on note here.
In a study of drugs by the CDC or whatever:
"Marijuana causes nothing harmful to the human body."

"We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."

Baum, Dan. "Legalize It All." Harper's Magazine. Harper's Magazine Foundation, Apr. 2016. Web.
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Dmitry II
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Postby Dmitry II » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:03 am

Haqooqistan wrote:Understanding that the drug known as marijuana causes short- and long-term diseases;

What evidence has been made to make that assumption? What type of diseases does marijuana supposedly cause? When taken in moderation, these drugs have no known medical effects. In fact, there have been no recorded deaths caused directly by marijuana.

Haqooqistan wrote:Noting that the smoking of Marijuana pollutes the air and affects non-smokers through passive smoking;

Though it is true that Marijuana does technically cause air pollution, it is so insignificant. This should not be a driving factor towards banning Marijuana.

Haqooqistan wrote:Recognizing that usage of Marijuana often leads to addiction;

I will not deny that there is a possibility of getting addicted on Marijuana, but I will say that it is rarer to get than alcohol or cigarettes. That means that, using your reasoning, cigarettes and alcohol should also be banned.

Your reasoning is flawed, some being based on nothing more than old fallacies. If you wish to pass a legislation "for the good of the people," please make the effort to research your points.
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:01 pm

Dmitry II wrote:
Haqooqistan wrote:Recognizing that usage of Marijuana often leads to addiction;

I will not deny that there is a possibility of getting addicted on Marijuana, but I will say that it is rarer to get than alcohol or cigarettes. That means that, using your reasoning, cigarettes and alcohol should also be banned.

Neville: 'Cigarettes'? I think you mean 'tobacco'. Cannabis can be smoked. They're called joints.
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Dmitry II
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Postby Dmitry II » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:23 pm

States of Glory WA Office wrote:
Dmitry II wrote:I will not deny that there is a possibility of getting addicted on Marijuana, but I will say that it is rarer to get than alcohol or cigarettes. That means that, using your reasoning, cigarettes and alcohol should also be banned.

Neville: 'Cigarettes'? I think you mean 'tobacco'. Cannabis can be smoked. They're called joints.



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Merni
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Postby Merni » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:23 pm

Dmitry II wrote:
States of Glory WA Office wrote:Neville: 'Cigarettes'? I think you mean 'tobacco'. Cannabis can be smoked. They're called joints.



Cigarette- A thin cylinder of finely cut tobacco rolled in paper for smoking.

Sí, sí, but there are other ways to consume tobacco.
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The Cheeki Breeki Anarchists
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Postby The Cheeki Breeki Anarchists » Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:22 am

Merni wrote:
Dmitry II wrote:

Cigarette- A thin cylinder of finely cut tobacco rolled in paper for smoking.

Sí, sí, but there are other ways to consume tobacco.


It is an old Native American medical practice, using tobacco. You you have a cut, what you do is soak some tobacco in you saliva, and then wipe it on the cut to the point that it smears across it compleatly. It causes a minor infection in the Cut making it swell and stop the bleeding. and, since it is tobacco, it also helps coop with the pain.

Do not worry, the infection is easily fought by the immune system so it is no real harm.
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Deimosan
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Postby Deimosan » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:30 pm

"Marijuana is legal in Deimosan for both medical and recreational use so expect us to vote against such a ridiculous proposal."

-Deimosan Ministry of Foreign Affairs

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The Cheeki Breeki Anarchists
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Postby The Cheeki Breeki Anarchists » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:36 pm

Deimosan wrote:"Marijuana is legal in Deimosan for both medical and recreational use so expect us to vote against such a ridiculous proposal."

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I like this guy ^^^^^
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Kitzerland
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Postby Kitzerland » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:38 pm

I think you should probably come up with a better name, ambassador. Perhaps the "Restriction of Cannabis Consumption" act or the "Drugs Suck" act.
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