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Postby Astrolinium » Sun May 01, 2016 8:18 am

Promotion of Citrus Beverages
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Category: Health
Area of Effect: Healthcare
Proposed by: Image Astrolinium


Description: THE ASSEMBLED NATIONS OF THE WORLD ASSEMBLY,

OUTRAGED at the lack of citrus beverages at public meetings of many of the nations the multiverse over, whether this is due to lack of citrus, lack of technology to create citrus-based beverages, or other impediments which surely exist somewhere,

DEFINING citrus beverages as liquids intended for safe consumption, a major ingredient of which is the fruit of a plant from the genus of Citrus, in particular oranges,

DEFINING public meetings as meetings held at the local or national level to which the general public of the nation, or a section thereof, is invited,

ACKNOWLEDGING the many benefits of citrus beverages not only to the physical health of the consumer, but also to the mental and spiritual health of the same,

NOTING that, while it is possible to make a citrus beverage in such a way that its physical health effects are lost, these alterations only increase the benefit to one's spiritual and mental health,

HEREBY MANDATES that the following be included at all public meetings:

  • Three oranges, peeled and de-veined,

  • Two hundred and fifty milliliters of milk or coconut milk,

  • One egg plus two egg yolks (from chickens),

  • Five milliliters of vanilla extract,

  • Thirty milliliters of raw honey (preferably from bees),

  • Three hundred and seventy-five milliliters of crushed or cubed water ice, and

  • One blender, whether electric, automatic, or cranked by hand or other appendage;

FURTHER MANDATES that an agent of the member nation's government combine in a blender the aforementioned non-blender ingredients except the oranges and ice,

ORDERS that the agent of the member nation's government mix these ingredients for around twenty standard time parts (or, seconds) until a frothy cream has been achieved, at which point the oranges shall be added accompanied by another twenty standard time parts (or, seconds) of blending, or until the mixture has achieved a smooth consistency, followed by the addition of the ice to be blended for the same amount of time,

EXCUSES from consumption of citrus beverages those species and individuals to whom the ingredients are dangerous or in violation of dietary restrictions, whether they be religious, personal, or otherwise,

STATES that, in the event that the entirety of a public meeting is composed of beings who cannot consume the above citrus beverage, a beverage which is to be evaluated as being as similar as possible to that described above may be prepared instead, and

CREATES the Committee for the Promotion of Citrus Beverages (or, C.P.C.B.) to assist member nations in compliance with the above duties, including the acquisition of the necessary ingredients if they are not easily found in the member nation, evaluating substitute beverages as actually being as similar as possible, and providing flexible liquid extraction tubes (or, bendy straws) in assorted colors.


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EDIT: Edited to reflect the astute suggestion of Araraukar and Sobaira.
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Postby Araraukar » Sun May 01, 2016 8:20 am

...how do you justify citrus soda being a recreational drug?

Or is this just a poke at the at-vote resolution?

OOC EDIT: We have a joke proposal thread too: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=255807 - this should probably be in there.
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Postby Astrolinium » Sun May 01, 2016 8:21 am

Araraukar wrote:...how do you justify citrus soda being a recreational drug?


"Well, if one defines a drug as any substance which alters the mental state of the user, the last time I had one of these... what are they called? 'Orange Jew Leases'? Well, the last (and first) time I had one, I certainly found myself in an elevated mental state. That said, I did say I was unsure as to whether this was the appropriate category."
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Postby Araraukar » Sun May 01, 2016 8:23 am

Astrolinium wrote:'Orange Jew Leases'

OOC: Calling them that is likely just looking for trouble.
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Araraukar wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:'Orange Jew Leases'

OOC: Calling them that is likely just looking for trouble.

OOC: Speaking as a Jewish person myself, I think it's just a bit of good fun based on Giovanni mishearing the name in the thread for the current resolution at vote.

Araraukar wrote:OOC EDIT: We have a joke proposal thread too: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=255807 - this should probably be in there.


OOC EDIT: This proposal is just as serious as the one at vote and the one on the books which it aims to replace. They aren't there, I don't see why this should be.
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Astrolinium wrote:OOC EDIT: This proposal is just as serious as the one at vote and the one on the books which it aims to replace. They aren't there, I don't see why this should be.
OOC: If you look at the drafting thread for the one that's now under attempt of being repealed, you'll see just what I thought of that one, but if you want to pretend you're not joking, fine, I'll play along...

Astrolinium wrote:Promotion of Citrus-Based Beverages

Title is too long. You only have 30 marks to use, and they include any spaces or punctuation.

Category: Recreational Drug Use

Like I already said, wrong category. Citrus fruits aren't considered drugs by the majority of species. If it were an alcoholic drink, then possibly, but as it's not, then nope.

OOC: All that "floatleft" code is unnecessary fluff for you to worry about - the less coding there is, the easier it's to quote and edit - even bolding the action words and all that will be looked down upon by some people. Purists, meh.

Description: THE ASSEMBLED NATIONS OF THE WORLD ASSEMBLY GENERAL ASSEMBLY,

...just say "The World Assembly" like normal people.

OUTRAGED at the lack of citrus-based beverage at public meetings of nations the universe over,

Got any proof of that being a fact? And remember that the WA nations aren't restricted to a single universe.

DEFINING citrus-based beverages as liquids intended for consumption of which a major ingredient is citrus fruit, in particular oranges,

"Citrus fruit" does not exist. "Citrus", on the other hand, is, at least on some planet (OOC: RL Earth) the name of a genus of flowering plants.

ACKNOWLEDGING the many benefits of citrus-based beverages not only to the physical health of the consumer, but also to the mental and spiritual health of the same,

You need a tighter definition for the drink to claim health benefits, because, say, orange juice can be made very unhealthy with enough sugar and/or alcohol added.

HEREBY MANDATES that the following be included at all public meetings:

You need to define "public meeting".

One egg plus two egg yolks (from chickens, Terran or otherwise),
*snip*
Thirty milliliters of raw honey (preferably from Terran bees),

OOC: Either RL violation for mentioning Earth as Terra, or forced RP to acknowledge the existence of a planet called Terra.

Three hundred and seventy-five millileters of ice, and

What kind of ice? And how is ice measured in millilitres?

One electric blender;

Why electric? Some nations don't have/no longer use electricity to power appliances.

FURTHER MANDATES that all the aforementioned non-blender ingredients save the oranges and ice be combined in the blender and mixed for around twenty standard time parts (or, seconds) until a frothy cream has been achieved, at which point the oranges shall be added accompanied by another twenty standard time parts (or, seconds) of blending, or until the mixture has achieved a smooth consistency, followed by the addition of the ice to be blended for the same amount of time, and

You can't mandate a recipe. You can mandate that nations do something or don't do something, but you can't mandate the execution of a recipe, at least not without spelling out who is supposed/allowed to make it.

CREATES the Committee for the Promotion of Citrus-Based Beverages (or, C.P.C.B.B.) to assist member nations in compliance with the above duties, including the acquisition of the necessary ingredients if they are not easily found in the member nation, as well as provision of flexible liquid extraction tubes (or, bendy straws) in assorted colors.

Micromanagement/doesn't do anything.

I'm calling this a "lacking active clause/committee-only" violation, as the "mandates that the below happens at public meetings" doesn't actually do anything.
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"I agree, there should be more citrus drinks out there. Consider me in."
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun May 01, 2016 9:10 am

And you just killed the Orange Julius joke.
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Postby Astrolinium » Sun May 01, 2016 9:28 am

Araraukar wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:Promotion of Citrus-Based Beverages

Title is too long. You only have 30 marks to use, and they include any spaces or punctuation.


Duly notes, will address.

Araraukar wrote:
Category: Recreational Drug Use

Like I already said, wrong category. Citrus fruits aren't considered drugs by the majority of species. If it were an alcoholic drink, then possibly, but as it's not, then nope.

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Hm. What category would you suggest? I'll look further into what seems best.

OOC: I've been formatting my drafts this way for years, and it's never been a problem when proposing.

Araraukar wrote:
Description: THE ASSEMBLED NATIONS OF THE WORLD ASSEMBLY GENERAL ASSEMBLY,

...just say "The World Assembly" like normal people.


I'll take it under consideration.

Araraukar wrote:
OUTRAGED at the lack of citrus-based beverage at public meetings of nations the universe over,

Got any proof of that being a fact? And remember that the WA nations aren't restricted to a single universe.


Duly noted, duly noted.

Araraukar wrote:
DEFINING citrus-based beverages as liquids intended for consumption of which a major ingredient is citrus fruit, in particular oranges,

"Citrus fruit" does not exist. "Citrus", on the other hand, is, at least on some planet (OOC: RL Earth) the name of a genus of flowering plants.


"Citrus fruit" would be the fruit born by citrus, would it not?

Araraukar wrote:
ACKNOWLEDGING the many benefits of citrus-based beverages not only to the physical health of the consumer, but also to the mental and spiritual health of the same,

You need a tighter definition for the drink to claim health benefits, because, say, orange juice can be made very unhealthy with enough sugar and/or alcohol added.


Even if this concoction does not aid in physical health, it does wonders for my spiritual health.

Araraukar wrote:
HEREBY MANDATES that the following be included at all public meetings:

You need to define "public meeting".


Will do.

Araraukar wrote:
One egg plus two egg yolks (from chickens, Terran or otherwise),
*snip*
Thirty milliliters of raw honey (preferably from Terran bees),

OOC: Either RL violation for mentioning Earth as Terra, or forced RP to acknowledge the existence of a planet called Terra.


Hm. I'd assumed I could get away with it given the current resolution at vote's mention of "Terra", but I will see about rewriting that.

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Three hundred and seventy-five millileters of ice, and

What kind of ice? And how is ice measured in millilitres?


Ice is the frozen form of a substance known commonly as water, which is generally measured in millilitres. I have now noticed a spelling error there, however, which I will correct.

Araraukar wrote:
One electric blender;

Why electric? Some nations don't have/no longer use electricity to power appliances.


Hm... good point! I'll amend that.

Araraukar wrote:
FURTHER MANDATES that all the aforementioned non-blender ingredients save the oranges and ice be combined in the blender and mixed for around twenty standard time parts (or, seconds) until a frothy cream has been achieved, at which point the oranges shall be added accompanied by another twenty standard time parts (or, seconds) of blending, or until the mixture has achieved a smooth consistency, followed by the addition of the ice to be blended for the same amount of time, and

You can't mandate a recipe. You can mandate that nations do something or don't do something, but you can't mandate the execution of a recipe, at least not without spelling out who is supposed/allowed to make it.


Well, I'll make it clearer, then.

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CREATES the Committee for the Promotion of Citrus-Based Beverages (or, C.P.C.B.B.) to assist member nations in compliance with the above duties, including the acquisition of the necessary ingredients if they are not easily found in the member nation, as well as provision of flexible liquid extraction tubes (or, bendy straws) in assorted colors.

Micromanagement/doesn't do anything.

I'm calling this a "lacking active clause/committee-only" violation, as the "mandates that the below happens at public meetings" doesn't actually do anything.


Yes it does, it ensures that nations have the necessary materials to enjoy this drink.
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Astrolinium wrote:"Citrus fruit" would be the fruit born by citrus, would it not?

OOC: That's like saying that the egg of any Gallus is the same as that Omega-3 free range chicken egg you bought from the supermarket. "Fruit of a plant from the genus of Citrus" is what you want to use, to be botanically correct.

Hm. I'd assumed I could get away with it given the current resolution at vote's mention of "Terra", but I will see about rewriting that.

OOC: If I'd caught it in the current at-vote one, I'd have duly complained as well. :P

Araraukar wrote:Ice is the frozen form of a substance known commonly as water, which is generally measured in millilitres.

You might want to specify water ice, then, and the ice should probably be crushed instead of a single block?

I'm calling this a "lacking active clause/committee-only" violation, as the "mandates that the below happens at public meetings" doesn't actually do anything.

Yes it does, it ensures that nations have the necessary materials to enjoy this drink.

No it doesn't. And also, what about nations that don't have any Citrus-genus plants? Or things that lay eggs. What about allergic people? What about carnivores (or herbivores for that matter, what with the eggs)? What about ectotherms, for whom drinking icy slush might be fatal?

You're forgetting that you're trying to legislate for a vast collection of sapient species from all kinds of different worlds and environments, not just whatever tropical zone with ice caps you happen to be inhabiting.
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Wallenburg wrote:And you just killed the Orange Julius joke.


OOC: And how.

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Ambassador Taksan read over the resolution. This was a very different beast than the one currently at vote. While expressing dismay at the failure to include such a thing, this was mandating the inclusion of one. That, however, is potentially dangerous and discriminatory. "Honourable Ambassador, while it had been of humour that the original joke that you do to be of referring to does find itself within resolution, rather in repeal, this does to be something rather else and more... dangerous with its mandates. It fails to take into consideration dietary, health, and possible ethical or religious concerns with the contents of the beverage supported. Forcing those with allergies to the ingredients, some of which for certain species may even be fatal, or who abstain from some of the ingredients for whatever reason, including but not limited to religious ones... does not to be of justice."
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Araraukar wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:"Citrus fruit" would be the fruit born by citrus, would it not?

OOC: That's like saying that the egg of any Gallus is the same as that Omega-3 free range chicken egg you bought from the supermarket. "Fruit of a plant from the genus of Citrus" is what you want to use, to be botanically correct.

Hm. I'd assumed I could get away with it given the current resolution at vote's mention of "Terra", but I will see about rewriting that.

OOC: If I'd caught it in the current at-vote one, I'd have duly complained as well. :P

Araraukar wrote:Ice is the frozen form of a substance known commonly as water, which is generally measured in millilitres.

You might want to specify water ice, then, and the ice should probably be crushed instead of a single block?

Yes it does, it ensures that nations have the necessary materials to enjoy this drink.

No it doesn't. And also, what about nations that don't have any Citrus-genus plants? Or things that lay eggs. What about allergic people? What about carnivores (or herbivores for that matter, what with the eggs)? What about ectotherms, for whom drinking icy slush might be fatal?

You're forgetting that you're trying to legislate for a vast collection of sapient species from all kinds of different worlds and environments, not just whatever tropical zone with ice caps you happen to be inhabiting.


Hm. How does "crushed or cubed" sound for the ice? Also, as far as providing materials to nations which do not have them, that's what the committee is for. Anyway, I've edited to reflect these things and to provide for species and individuals who cannot consume citrus beverages.
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Wallenburg wrote:And you just killed the Orange Julius joke.

OOC: I'm not sure it was ever funny in the first place. :lol:
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Sciongrad wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:And you just killed the Orange Julius joke.

OOC: I'm not sure it was ever funny in the first place. :lol:

OOC: Not that I'm joking, but if there is one thing that the World Assembly is for, it's for beating dead horses (and jokes) into the ground.
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Astrolinium wrote:Anyway, I've edited to reflect these things and to provide for species and individuals who cannot consume citrus beverages.


"Honourable Ambassador, consumption does not to be of the only thing that those with reason not to consume have been of qualms. Even the mandated production does into issue. If the entire public meeting had been of only those who cannot or will not due to whatever reason consume the beverage, forcing them to make it does to be of a waste too."
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Sobaira wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:Anyway, I've edited to reflect these things and to provide for species and individuals who cannot consume citrus beverages.


"Honourable Ambassador, consumption does not to be of the only thing that those with reason not to consume have been of qualms. Even the mandated production does into issue. If the entire public meeting had been of only those who cannot or will not due to whatever reason consume the beverage, forcing them to make it does to be of a waste too."


"Now, Ambassador, the World Assembly can't be hand-holding people in this. Don't be ridiculous."
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Is this a joke?
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Waldriech wrote:Is this a joke?

No.
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Astrolinium wrote:
Sobaira wrote:
"Honourable Ambassador, consumption does not to be of the only thing that those with reason not to consume have been of qualms. Even the mandated production does into issue. If the entire public meeting had been of only those who cannot or will not due to whatever reason consume the beverage, forcing them to make it does to be of a waste too."


"Now, Ambassador, the World Assembly can't be hand-holding people in this. Don't be ridiculous."


Ambassador Taksan simply looked completely flummoxed by this point.

"B-but, mandating that those who cannot consume a product to produce the product does to be... but... y-you..." she rubbed at her head before shaking her head, "Sobaira finds itself normally in favour of World Assembly oversight, but in the case of mandated international governmental waste Sobaira does to be into opposition..."
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Postby Astrolinium » Sun May 01, 2016 10:09 am

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"Now, Ambassador, the World Assembly can't be hand-holding people in this. Don't be ridiculous."


Ambassador Taksan simply looked completely flummoxed by this point.

"B-but, mandating that those who cannot consume a product to produce the product does to be... but... y-you..." she rubbed at her head before shaking her head, "Sobaira finds itself normally in favour of World Assembly oversight, but in the case of mandated international governmental waste Sobaira does to be into opposition..."


"Hm... yes, I suppose waste is disagreeable. How would this clause sound to you? 'STATES that, in the event that the entirety of a public meeting is composed of beings who cannot consume the above citrus beverage, a beverage which is to be evaluated by the CPCB as being as similar as possible to that described above may be prepared instead'. Alternately, perhaps the citrus beverage itself could still be prepared but allowed to be donated to charity rather than consumed?"
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Postby Araraukar » Sun May 01, 2016 10:15 am

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Waldriech wrote:Is this a joke?

No.

Yes, but we're pretending it isn't.
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Postby New Dukaine » Sun May 01, 2016 11:24 am

This also kinda plagiarizes Repeal Law enforcement Education. Those recipe clauses are plagiarized!
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Postby Araraukar » Sun May 01, 2016 11:32 am

New Dukaine wrote:This also kinda plagiarizes Repeal Law enforcement Education. Those recipe clauses are plagiarized!

Good point. :P
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Postby Sobaira » Sun May 01, 2016 12:12 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Sobaira wrote:
Ambassador Taksan simply looked completely flummoxed by this point.

"B-but, mandating that those who cannot consume a product to produce the product does to be... but... y-you..." she rubbed at her head before shaking her head, "Sobaira finds itself normally in favour of World Assembly oversight, but in the case of mandated international governmental waste Sobaira does to be into opposition..."


"Hm... yes, I suppose waste is disagreeable. How would this clause sound to you? 'STATES that, in the event that the entirety of a public meeting is composed of beings who cannot consume the above citrus beverage, a beverage which is to be evaluated by the CPCB as being as similar as possible to that described above may be prepared instead'. Alternately, perhaps the citrus beverage itself could still be prepared but allowed to be donated to charity rather than consumed?"


Ambassador Taksan's expression remained one of disbelief. But she went along with it anyway. "Honourable Ambassador, we do to be of suggesting that instead of requiring the entirety, a simple majority does to be of sufficiency. That, or in the vein of alternatives, simply permit straight cut jumping to alternatives... if this does to be of hypothetical passing, then such does to be into making it more palatable. But there now does to be of another issue. What of persons who cannot consume drinks, of this type or otherwise, at all? This does to be into discriminatory against and wasteful for them and their public meetings."

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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun May 01, 2016 1:06 pm

I am really at a loss how this is something even approaching an international issue, or how mandating specific snacks at all public meetings is appropriate.
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