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Postby Araraukar » Sun May 01, 2016 9:27 am

Pesticide Regulations

Category: Environmental
Area of Effect: Agriculture

The World Assembly,

Applauding previous efforts at enviromental protection,

Recognizing that in many member nations farmers need to rely on chemical pesticides to keep their crops healthy,

Concerned of the effects that pesticides may have on the environment and inhabitants of member nations, such as contamination of waterways, soil and groundwater, as well as unintended harm to non-target organisms,

Hereby,

1. Extends the mandate of the World Assembly Science Program (WASP) to monitor the use of pesticides in the member nations, their unintentional environmental effects, as well as disseminate information on how to best avoid environmental contamination,

2. Defines "chemical pesticide" as a chemical designed to prevent or kill pathogens and non-sapient pests, and which is used to protect farmed organisms,

3. Establishes these regulations on chemical pesticides used and produced in the member nations:

  1. The active and inert ingredients can only be ones that are permitted for protection of crops by the nation where the product is used,
  2. The active and inert ingredients must be listed on the label of the pesticide, which must also contain instructions for safe handling and use,
  3. No false advertising or unsubstantiated claims are allowed on the label,
  4. The producer of the pesticide shall include its name and contact info on the label,
4. Encourages member nations to research and use more environmentally-friendly pesticides as well as non-chemical forms of pest control,

5. Reaffirms that the use of pesticides as chemical weapons does not fall under the domain of this resolution.

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OOC: I moved some clauses around, combined some, changed some - the minimum risk pesticides don't really exist (nothing is ever completely harmless) and aren't used in the rest of the text, so removed that - changed ingredient approver from WASP to the nation where it's used, added clauses 2 and 5 to prevent overlap/contradiction with existing resolutions, unified punctuation, removed mention of humans, added the list code, and tweaked words here and there.

EDIT: Sorry it took me this long to get back to you.
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Postby New Dukaine » Sun May 01, 2016 10:47 am

Bam. Added. Shall it be time for me to submit for the second time? This looks ready like a painting for an art contest
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Postby Araraukar » Sun May 01, 2016 11:25 am

New Dukaine wrote:Bam. Added. Shall it be time for me to submit for the second time? This looks ready like a painting for an art contest

Wait until you hear back from Unibot, if he has any changes to add.
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Postby New Dukaine » Sun May 01, 2016 11:28 am

Araraukar wrote:
New Dukaine wrote:Bam. Added. Shall it be time for me to submit for the second time? This looks ready like a painting for an art contest

Wait until you hear back from Unibot, if he has any changes to add.

Unibot hasn't checked this since 3 weeks ago. The only suggestions were the minimum risk pesticides and the regulations. I honestly think we are good
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Postby Araraukar » Sun May 01, 2016 11:31 am

New Dukaine wrote:Unibot hasn't checked this since 3 weeks ago. The only suggestions were the minimum risk pesticides and the regulations. I honestly think we are good

Tried telegramming him?

EDIT: When you submit, his name's going to be on it. You should at the very least check if he still wants his name on it.
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Postby New Dukaine » Sun May 01, 2016 11:38 am

Araraukar wrote:
New Dukaine wrote:Unibot hasn't checked this since 3 weeks ago. The only suggestions were the minimum risk pesticides and the regulations. I honestly think we are good

Tried telegramming him?

EDIT: When you submit, his name's going to be on it. You should at the very least check if he still wants his name on it.

Just for the sake of it, I removed his name.
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Postby Araraukar » Sun May 01, 2016 11:39 am

New Dukaine wrote:
Araraukar wrote:Tried telegramming him?

EDIT: When you submit, his name's going to be on it. You should at the very least check if he still wants his name on it.

Just for the sake of it, I removed his name.

No, don't do that either. He helped you. TG him to ask if he'd still like to be part of this writing team. Don't be so impatient.

Just looked at his nation's page, last time he was doing something on his game acc, was 16 hours ago, so he's around.

EDIT: I sent him a telegram, asking him to come check the current draft.

2nd EDIT: Were you planning on campaigning this time?
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Postby New Dukaine » Sun May 01, 2016 11:45 am

Araraukar wrote:
New Dukaine wrote:Just for the sake of it, I removed his name.

No, don't do that either. He helped you. TG him to ask if he'd still like to be part of this writing team. Don't be so impatient.

Just looked at his nation's page, last time he was doing something on his game acc, was 16 hours ago, so he's around.

EDIT: I sent him a telegram, asking him to come check the current draft.

2nd EDIT: Were you planning on campaigning this time?

Yes. But me no TG stamps. But I'm in touch with Lepp and will campaign it soon using his API.
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Postby Araraukar » Sun May 01, 2016 11:53 am

New Dukaine wrote:Yes. But me no TG stamps. But I'm in touch with Lepp and will campaign it soon using his API.

Just please wait for Unibot to reply before submitting.
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Postby Unibot III » Mon May 02, 2016 6:50 am

Sorry for the delay - the draft looks good (although I'm concerned about "farmed organisms" - that excludes pesticides in domestic use and golf courses.) I don't think my suggestions warrant a co-authorship, but thank you for the offer.
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Postby Bananaistan » Mon May 02, 2016 7:06 am

1. Extends the mandate of the World Assembly Science Program (WASP) to monitor the use of pesticides in the member nations, their unintentional environmental effects, as well as disseminate information on how to best avoid environmental contamination,

Yippee, more WA bureaucrats wandering around the countryside poking their nose in where it's not wanted!

2. Defines "chemical pesticide" as a chemical designed to prevent or kill pathogens and non-sapient pests, and which is used to protect farmed organisms,

The inclusion of the phrase "farmed organisms" seems very significant. I'm sure there are conceivable circumstances where someone might wish to use pesticides to protect "unfarmed" organisms.

3. Establishes these regulations on chemical pesticides used and produced in the member nations:

I. The active and inert ingredients can only be ones that are permitted for protection of crops by the nation where the product is used,

II.The active and inert ingredients must be listed on the label of the pesticide, which must also contain instructions for safe handling and use,

Eh, would one be correct in saying that active + inert ingredients = all ingredients? If so, why not just say all ingredients?

III. No false advertising or unsubstantiated claims are allowed on the label,

IVThe producer of the pesticide shall include its name and contact info on the label,

Info is an abbreviation. Please use the full word. Also, the sentence just doesn't roll off the tongue. In any case, why is this information necessary?

4. Encourages member nations to research and use more environmentally-friendly pesticides as well as non-chemical forms of pest control,

This is far too open ended, one could theoretically use only completely safe pesticides and yet still have to use more of them even if it's not needed while still researching. Past resolutions have been repealed for such like (EG that one about automobile emissions which said you had to keep reducing them).

5. Reaffirms that the use of pesticides as chemical weapons does not fall under the domain of this resolution.

And the infamous military exemption rears it head again. Why? Does the government supplied safety equipment turn chemical pesticides into unicorn farts?
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon May 02, 2016 7:08 am

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5. Reaffirms that the use of pesticides as chemical weapons does not fall under the domain of this resolution.

And the infamous military exemption rears it head again. Why? Does the government supplied safety equipment turn chemical pesticides into unicorn farts?

Because then it would run into legality issues with prior chemical weapons legislation. Edited format in original quote because it looks prettier this way.



I don't see how pesticide regulations are an international issue that require international cooperation. The only thing which I would see on the subject that requires international regulation would be something like the discharge of pesticides into international waters and some kind of regulation on that front, but I can't think of anything else. I will therefore ask the author to give cohesive and convincing argumentation to why this is an international issue.
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Postby New Dukaine » Mon May 02, 2016 9:30 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:I don't see how pesticide regulations are an international issue that require international cooperation. The only thing which I would see on the subject that requires international regulation would be something like the discharge of pesticides into international waters and some kind of regulation on that front, but I can't think of anything else. I will therefore ask the author to give cohesive and convincing argumentation to why this is an international issue.

Hey

Just letting you know, Amatuer proposal writer here. This idea popped into my head back in April, and I started drafting it with Araraukar. Sometimes, pesticides are overused, and can be potentially harmful and in some cases, even deadly. Some nations might still have smuggled DDT or other pesticide that could potentially deadly pesticide. Basically in short, to try to protect the environment.

Thanks, New Dukaine
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon May 02, 2016 12:01 pm

New Dukaine wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:I don't see how pesticide regulations are an international issue that require international cooperation. The only thing which I would see on the subject that requires international regulation would be something like the discharge of pesticides into international waters and some kind of regulation on that front, but I can't think of anything else. I will therefore ask the author to give cohesive and convincing argumentation to why this is an international issue.

Just letting you know, Amatuer proposal writer here. This idea popped into my head back in April, and I started drafting it with Araraukar. Sometimes, pesticides are overused, and can be potentially harmful and in some cases, even deadly. Some nations might still have smuggled DDT or other pesticide that could potentially deadly pesticide. Basically in short, to try to protect the environment.

Okay. I'm willing to go it soft to increase retention in these parts. However it is, pesticides are deadly to people. But here's the clincher: why is it the case that we need international action to solve this problem? Why is it that nations themselves cannot deal with this issue?

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Postby Araraukar » Mon May 02, 2016 12:03 pm

New Dukaine wrote:Just letting you know, Amatuer proposal writer here. This idea popped into my head back in April, and I started drafting it with Araraukar. Sometimes, pesticides are overused, and can be potentially harmful and in some cases, even deadly. Some nations might still have smuggled DDT or other pesticide that could potentially deadly pesticide. Basically in short, to try to protect the environment.

OOC: *facepalm* You should've given me time to help the proposal text address the newly raised points... If you haven't started campaigning yet, please put in a GHR to have it pulled. If you don't, I will (EDIT: in 1 hour from now); this drafting thread proves I've done fairly major writing for it.
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Postby New Dukaine » Mon May 02, 2016 1:32 pm

Araraukar wrote:
New Dukaine wrote:Just letting you know, Amatuer proposal writer here. This idea popped into my head back in April, and I started drafting it with Araraukar. Sometimes, pesticides are overused, and can be potentially harmful and in some cases, even deadly. Some nations might still have smuggled DDT or other pesticide that could potentially deadly pesticide. Basically in short, to try to protect the environment.

OOC: *facepalm* You should've given me time to help the proposal text address the newly raised points... If you haven't started campaigning yet, please put in a GHR to have it pulled. If you don't, I will (EDIT: in 1 hour from now); this drafting thread proves I've done fairly major writing for it.

I filed a GHR. Don't worry.
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Postby Araraukar » Mon May 02, 2016 1:36 pm

New Dukaine wrote:I filed a GHR. Don't worry.

OOC: Just in the nick of time - I thought I'd check the thread one last time before hitting the "Lodge Request" on mine. :P

Now, please take the [SUBMITTED] out of the title, replace it with [DRAFT] and give me until Thursday to get back to you. Real life, ya know.
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Postby New Dukaine » Mon May 02, 2016 1:38 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
New Dukaine wrote:Just letting you know, Amatuer proposal writer here. This idea popped into my head back in April, and I started drafting it with Araraukar. Sometimes, pesticides are overused, and can be potentially harmful and in some cases, even deadly. Some nations might still have smuggled DDT or other pesticide that could potentially deadly pesticide. Basically in short, to try to protect the environment.

Okay. I'm willing to go it soft to increase retention in these parts. However it is, pesticides are deadly to people. But here's the clincher: why is it the case that we need international action to solve this problem? Why is it that nations themselves cannot deal with this issue?

"Ambassador, I think that some nations don't even give any attention to this issue. They just want to farm and farm and dump buckets of pesticide on their plants. So basically, some members don't give any craps about their environment and how they treat it. That's why , IN SOME CASES, we need Assembly action."
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New Dukaine wrote:I filed a GHR. Don't worry.

OOC: Just in the nick of time - I thought I'd check the thread one last time before hitting the "Lodge Request" on mine. :P

Now, please take the [SUBMITTED] out of the title, replace it with [DRAFT] and give me until Thursday to get back to you. Real life, ya know.


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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu May 05, 2016 9:01 am

New Dukaine wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Okay. I'm willing to go it soft to increase retention in these parts. However it is, pesticides are deadly to people. But here's the clincher: why is it the case that we need international action to solve this problem? Why is it that nations themselves cannot deal with this issue?

"Ambassador, I think that some nations don't even give any attention to this issue. They just want to farm and farm and dump buckets of pesticide on their plants. So basically, some members don't give any craps about their environment and how they treat it. That's why , IN SOME CASES, we need Assembly action."

This doesn't prove that international action is necessary. Possibly, national action would be substantiated here. But international action, this does not prove. If you weaken this proposal, I would support it as a blocker.

Actually, re-reading it: it only requires that nations follow their own laws and that labels be on the legislation. Wow this doesn't do anything at all. I'll support for the sole purpose of blocking future legislation.
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Postby Araraukar » Thu May 05, 2016 9:06 am

New Dukaine wrote:First of, bump bumpity bump.

Second, this will be submitted on MONDAY.

OOC: *sigh* I told you I'd get back to this on Thursday. It's Thursday now. Don't set hard limits when a proposal will be submitted, because it shouldn't be submitted before it's ready. If it's not ready, it shouldn't be submitted.

You really need to learn the meaning of the word "patience".
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu May 05, 2016 9:08 am

Araraukar wrote:
New Dukaine wrote:First of, bump bumpity bump.

Second, this will be submitted on MONDAY.

OOC: *sigh* I told you I'd get back to this on Thursday. It's Thursday now. Don't set hard limits when a proposal will be submitted, because it shouldn't be submitted before it's ready. If it's not ready, it shouldn't be submitted.

You really need to learn the meaning of the word "patience".

Ha, it's fine. This literally does nothing. It will block everything! Support today!

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Postby New Dukaine » Thu May 05, 2016 9:14 am

Araraukar wrote:
New Dukaine wrote:First of, bump bumpity bump.

Second, this will be submitted on MONDAY.

OOC: *sigh* I told you I'd get back to this on Thursday. It's Thursday now. Don't set hard limits when a proposal will be submitted, because it shouldn't be submitted before it's ready. If it's not ready, it shouldn't be submitted.

You really need to learn the meaning of the word "patience".

I already do know about patience, sadly, I can't really exercise it that well. Post redacted
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Araraukar wrote:OOC: *sigh* I told you I'd get back to this on Thursday. It's Thursday now. Don't set hard limits when a proposal will be submitted, because it shouldn't be submitted before it's ready. If it's not ready, it shouldn't be submitted.

You really need to learn the meaning of the word "patience".

Ha, it's fine. This literally does nothing. It will block everything! Support today!

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Postby Bananaistan » Thu May 05, 2016 9:16 am

You haven't addressed any of my concerns raised here.
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Postby New Dukaine » Thu May 05, 2016 9:28 am

Bananaistan wrote:You haven't addressed any of my concerns raised here.

Yippee, more WA bureaucrats wandering around the countryside poking their nose in where it's not wanted!

Every single crapping resolution establishes more bereaucrats!

The inclusion of the phrase "farmed organisms" seems very significant. I'm sure there are conceivable circumstances where someone might wish to use pesticides to protect "unfarmed" organisms.

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Eh, would one be correct in saying that active + inert ingredients = all ingredients? If so, why not just say all ingredients?

Technically yes. But for more clarification I will keep it this way
Info is an abbreviation. Please use the full word. Also, the sentence just doesn't roll off the tongue. In any case, why is this information necessary?

Will take this off
This is far too open ended, one could theoretically use only completely safe pesticides and yet still have to use more of them even if it's not needed while still researching. Past resolutions have been repealed for such like (EG that one about automobile emissions which said you had to keep reducing them).

I will take off the word more.
And the infamous military exemption rears it head again. Why? Does the government supplied safety equipment turn chemical pesticides into unicorn farts?

See imperium anglorums reply please
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