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Postby Mousebumples » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:05 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"So why heart disease? Why not brain disease? Or liver disease? What is the value of an international, rather than national, approach?"

I'd like to re-iterate this point, as I'm not sure that we ever really got an answer to this question.
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Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:04 pm

Mousebumples wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"So why heart disease? Why not brain disease? Or liver disease? What is the value of an international, rather than national, approach?"

I'd like to re-iterate this point, as I'm not sure that we ever really got an answer to this question.

"All of these are very important issues, but we must take it one step at a time. Looking at some nations, such as my own, at least a portion of those dying do die from heart disease. Working together, taking one disease at a time, in a joint effort, we could work to resolve the issue in a shorter amount of time, which leads me to the next point. The reason that I see an international approach is more effective is because you have more people working to achieve the same goal. It's much easier to work with when you have many people from many nations working rather than the limited amount of just one nation, and it causes less financial distress for an individual nation."

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:07 pm

Diallus wrote:
Mousebumples wrote:I'd like to re-iterate this point, as I'm not sure that we ever really got an answer to this question.

"All of these are very important issues, but we must take it one step at a time. Looking at some nations, such as my own, at least a portion of those dying do die from heart disease. Working together, taking one disease at a time, in a joint effort, we could work to resolve the issue in a shorter amount of time, which leads me to the next point. The reason that I see an international approach is more effective is because you have more people working to achieve the same goal. It's much easier to work with when you have many people from many nations working rather than the limited amount of just one nation, and it causes less financial distress for an individual nation."

"You really need to make a better case for why this requires international attention and why it is beneficial to have the WA's hand in such affairs. Otherwise, you'll run into this at every turn. Not only do you need the case, but you absolutely need to make the case in your preamble."

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Postby Jessrond » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:08 pm

I support this. 24.4% of my people die from heart disease and I want more research put into it.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:08 pm

Jessrond wrote:I support this. 24.4% of my people die from heart disease and I want more research put into it.

You could do that yourself, you know.
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Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:11 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Diallus wrote:"I've gone through and corrected everything that you said to (at least I think I did). What do you think?"

You still give no explanation to the necessity of the CCS, and it's still optional.

Your "urges" clause should NOT be part of the "establishes committee and makes it do this" list, nor is it a good one. Remember, you're writing for the Research AoE, so your urges clause ought to have something to do with that - maybe urge nations to invest in medical research and promote cardiovascular disease awareness.

Imperium Anglorum wrote:OOC: It's a pile of micro-mangagement which is entirely unnecessary.

OOC: Well duh, but if micromanagery crap has to be submitted, I'd at least prefer it to be the best micromanagery crap possible. And also there's the slight chance that if CCS was nixed (still no idea what it's supposed to do) that it would be slightly less micromanagery.

"Sorry for taking so long, had a lot of stuff to take care of. Anyhow, I've nixed the CCS, and revised the urges clause. Still not sure exactly where to put it, but I tried. Thanks!"

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Postby Jessrond » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:14 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Jessrond wrote:I support this. 24.4% of my people die from heart disease and I want more research put into it.

You could do that yourself, you know.

Only if it comes up as an issue.
Or something like it. Maybe it's the beef-eating.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:15 pm

Jessrond wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:You could do that yourself, you know.

Only if it comes up as an issue.
Or something like it. Maybe it's the beef-eating.

Your nation has existed for 10 years. You've gotten plenty of healthcare issues.

Anyway, this draft appears to be improving fairly well, although we still don't think it is necessary. You'll have to make a better case for international involvement in this issue.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:15 pm

Jessrond wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:You could do that yourself, you know.

Only if it comes up as an issue.
Or something like it. Maybe it's the beef-eating.

OOC: There is nothing stopping you from increasing research In Character in your roleplay. Daily Issues have nothing to do with the General Assembly.

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Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:17 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Diallus wrote:"All of these are very important issues, but we must take it one step at a time. Looking at some nations, such as my own, at least a portion of those dying do die from heart disease. Working together, taking one disease at a time, in a joint effort, we could work to resolve the issue in a shorter amount of time, which leads me to the next point. The reason that I see an international approach is more effective is because you have more people working to achieve the same goal. It's much easier to work with when you have many people from many nations working rather than the limited amount of just one nation, and it causes less financial distress for an individual nation."

"You really need to make a better case for why this requires international attention and why it is beneficial to have the WA's hand in such affairs. Otherwise, you'll run into this at every turn. Not only do you need the case, but you absolutely need to make the case in your preamble."

"All I can think of is a fair majority of what is stated above, sadly. The only other thing I can think of is that the pooling of information and constant research can promote substantial progress in the field, and may help many nations overall."
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Postby Jessrond » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:37 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Jessrond wrote:Only if it comes up as an issue.
Or something like it. Maybe it's the beef-eating.

Your nation has existed for 10 years. You've gotten plenty of healthcare issues.

Anyway, this draft appears to be improving fairly well, although we still don't think it is necessary. You'll have to make a better case for international involvement in this issue.


I have "existed" since Feb 2005 but I've played sporadically during that time.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:49 pm

Diallus wrote:"All I can think of is a fair majority of what is stated above, sadly. The only other thing I can think of is that the pooling of information and constant research can promote substantial progress in the field, and may help many nations overall."


"I'm sorry, ambassador, but you're going to need to make a much more convincing case if you want to impress the voters here. Already, two of the delegates from larger voting blocs have asked you this question outright. Two delegates that make or break many resolutions. You need more, even if it requires an entire rewrite. I really wish I could help more, but its got to come from you."

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Postby Jessrond » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:57 pm

"If this isn't passed, I will leave the WA and become a rogue region. I am threatening nuclear war."

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Postby Jessrond » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:58 pm

"Also, I am going to have sex with Taylor Swift within 10 years."

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:01 pm

Jessrond wrote:"If this isn't passed, I will leave the WA and become a rogue region. I am threatening nuclear war."

"That's nice, Ambassador. Who will you attack? I highly doubt your warheads are transdimensional, so they are no threat to nations such as mine."
Jessrond wrote:"Also, I am going to have sex with Taylor Swift within 10 years."

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Postby Jessrond » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:02 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Jessrond wrote:"If this isn't passed, I will leave the WA and become a rogue region. I am threatening nuclear war."

"That's nice, Ambassador. Who will you attack? I highly doubt your warheads are transdimensional, so they are no threat to nations such as mine."
Jessrond wrote:"Also, I am going to have sex with Taylor Swift within 10 years."

"Sex is nice too, Ambassador," says Ogenbond, drinking some tea from the Strangers' Bar.


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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:05 pm

Jessrond wrote:"Also, I am going to have sex with Taylor Swift within 10 years."
Jessrond wrote:"If this isn't passed, I will leave the WA and become a rogue region. I am threatening nuclear war."


"Literally nobody here cares, ambassador. Your threats of war are entirely meaningless, as is your intended sexual conquest."

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Postby Jessrond » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:06 pm

"I am superior to all of you. I am leaving the WA and becoming a rogue region. See you in hell, motherfxckers."
:bow:

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:06 pm

Jessrond wrote:"I am superior to all of you. I am leaving the WA and becoming a rogue region. See you in hell, motherfxckers."
:bow:

"Don't let the door hit you on your way out."

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Postby Jessrond » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:19 pm

"There is no door. I turned my bag of holding inside out. Now be prepared. I am going full retard."

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:20 pm

Jessrond wrote:"There is no door. I turned my bag of holding inside out. Now be prepared. I am going full retard."

OOC: You're cluttering up somebody's drafting thread with this crap. Take it to the Bar or to another forum.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:23 pm

Jessrond wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:"That's nice, Ambassador. Who will you attack? I highly doubt your warheads are transdimensional, so they are no threat to nations such as mine."

"Sex is nice too, Ambassador," says Ogenbond, drinking some tea from the Strangers' Bar.

"My ally Jwurmy has wurmholes that can cause your citizens to evacuate your country for a capitalist land."

"Which they would never do."
Jessrond wrote:"I am superior to all of you. I am leaving the WA and becoming a rogue region. See you in hell, motherfxckers."

"There is a hell now? Damn, I guess I'm real scared now, you being oh so superior to me and all."

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Jessrond wrote:"There is no door. I turned my bag of holding inside out. Now be prepared. I am going full retard."

OOC: You're cluttering up somebody's drafting thread with this crap. Take it to the Bar or to another forum.

OOC: ^^This.
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

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