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[DRAFT] WHA Cardiovascular Research

Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:42 pm

Category: Health
Area of Effect: Research

Description:

ASTONISHED by the number of people that die of cardiovascular disease in many member nations; and

NOTING that a cooperative effort to stop or cure cardiovascular disease could save millions of lives; and

FURTHER NOTING that there is a way to fund the association without fiscally harming a nation;

ACKNOWLEDGING that there are many other fatal diseases that could be studied; and

NOTING that working internationally to solve a focused issue will hasten the process and provide results quickly to every nation;

HEREBY establishes the World Assembly Cardiovascular Research Center (WACRC), under the World Health Authority (WHA), with the following clauses:

1. Requires that scientific breakthroughs and existing information on heart health in any nation be reported to the WACRC for further study;
2. Also requires nations that are currently researching cardiovascular disease register their research center with the WACRC;

ALSO: URGES member nations to invest in medical research of cardiovascular disease, and raise awareness for said disease.

(The spoiler below is the original document.)

Category: Health
Area of Effect: Research

Description: This proposal will establish the World Heart Disease Association (WHDA), a world health association that focuses solely on finding: 1) a cure for heart disease; 2) a quick discovery method for heart disease; 3) heart disease prevention; and 4) slowing the development of heart disease.

ASTONISHED by the number of people that die of heart disease in each nation; and

NOTING that a cooperative effort to stop or cure heart disease could save millions of lives and a large amount of money; and

FURTHER NOTING that there is a way to fund the association without fiscally harming a nation;

HEREBY establishes the World Heart Disease Association (WHDA) with the following clauses:

1. States that the funding of the association will be from donations of either nations or citizens of those nations (exception, clause 3);
2. Requiring that every nation makes donations to the WHDA tax deductible;
3. Allowing nations to put aside a portion of their healthcare fund towards funding the WHDA;
4. Requesting that breakthroughs in heart health in any nation be reported to the WHDA for further study.
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Re: Establishing the WHDA

Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:44 pm

"We wish to propose this to the General Assembly. However, we must ensure that it is fully acceptable. Any help is appreciated!"
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Postby New Leppikania » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:53 pm

"Illegal. Committee only resolutions are not allowed. This must do something other than establishing a committee."
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:56 pm

"Category and Strength?"

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Postby Tinfect » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:03 pm

Diallus wrote:ASTONISHED by the number of people that die of heart disease in each nation; and


"Perhaps in your Nation, but the Imperium has no such issues."

FURTHER NOTING that there is a way to fund the association without fiscally harming a nation


"Yes, there is, The World Assembly General Fund.

As the Delegation of New Leppikania has mentioned, this falls afaul of the Secretariat's rulings on 'committee only' proposals. And is entirely unnecessary as well."
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Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:12 pm

Tinfect wrote:
Diallus wrote:ASTONISHED by the number of people that die of heart disease in each nation; and


"Perhaps in your Nation, but the Imperium has no such issues."

FURTHER NOTING that there is a way to fund the association without fiscally harming a nation


"Yes, there is, The World Assembly General Fund.

As the Delegation of New Leppikania has mentioned, this falls afaul of the Secretariat's rulings on 'committee only' proposals. And is entirely unnecessary as well."


"As for the first comment, I have rewritten a portion of the proposal to establish clinics only in nations that request it, or in nations that have a high rate of deaths due to heart disease. As for the second, the World Assembly General Fund can be used for other things. When people donate to either the WHDA or MCHD, it goes directly to these organizations. Thank you for your responses."

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Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:13 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Category and Strength?"

"I have added them into the proposal. Thank you!"

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Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:14 pm

New Leppikania wrote:"Illegal. Committee only resolutions are not allowed. This must do something other than establishing a committee."

"I have reviewed the proposal and corrected it by adding a branch specific to research and treatment. Thank you for your response!"

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:14 pm

"So why heart disease? Why not brain disease? Or liver disease? What is the value of an international, rather than national, approach?"

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OOC: You should spoiler the earlier drafts, not the later ones.
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Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:19 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"So why heart disease? Why not brain disease? Or liver disease? What is the value of an international, rather than national, approach?"


"All of these are very important issues, but we must take it one step at a time. Looking at some nations, such as my own, a majority of those dying do die from heart disease. The reason that I see an international approach is more effective is because you have more people working to achieve the same goal. It's much easier to work with when you have many people from many nations working rather than the limited amount of just one nation, and it causes less fiscal harm. I will work these views into the edit. Thank you for your response!"

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Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:20 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:OOC: You should spoiler the earlier drafts, not the later ones.

OOC: Thanks! I'll make that change now.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:23 pm

Diallus wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"So why heart disease? Why not brain disease? Or liver disease? What is the value of an international, rather than national, approach?"


"All of these are very important issues, but we must take it one step at a time. Looking at some nations, such as my own, a majority of those dying do die from heart disease. The reason that I see an international approach is more effective is because you have more people working to achieve the same goal. It's much easier to work with when you have many people from many nations working rather than the limited amount of just one nation, and it causes less fiscal harm. I will work these views into the edit. Thank you for your response!"

"I don't see how placing research under the auspices of a single international organization is going to reach more people than many nations working independently and cooperating through regular scientific channels. However, this is exactly what the category is for, so I'm having a hard time finding a solid argument against this."

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Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:26 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Diallus wrote:
"All of these are very important issues, but we must take it one step at a time. Looking at some nations, such as my own, a majority of those dying do die from heart disease. The reason that I see an international approach is more effective is because you have more people working to achieve the same goal. It's much easier to work with when you have many people from many nations working rather than the limited amount of just one nation, and it causes less fiscal harm. I will work these views into the edit. Thank you for your response!"

"I don't see how placing research under the auspices of a single international organization is going to reach more people than many nations working independently and cooperating through regular scientific channels. However, this is exactly what the category is for, so I'm having a hard time finding a solid argument against this."


"Thank you for all of your help thus far. I went back and tried to show how working internationally could improve the process."

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:27 pm

Still illegal, committee only.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:29 pm

"Nix clause 3. Nations are already allowed to donate thanks to clause 1. Repeating it in clause 3 is redundant."

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Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:32 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Nix clause 3. Nations are already allowed to donate thanks to clause 1. Repeating it in clause 3 is redundant."

"Changed."

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Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:33 pm

Wallenburg wrote:Still illegal, committee only.

"Could you explain how? It establishes, yes, a committee, but also a research-treatment hospital system."

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:49 pm

Diallus wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Still illegal, committee only.

"Could you explain how? It establishes, yes, a committee, but also a research-treatment hospital system."

Which is part of the committee.

I'm pretty sure this also duplicates existing health legislation.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:50 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Diallus wrote:"Could you explain how? It establishes, yes, a committee, but also a research-treatment hospital system."

Which is part of the committee.

I'm pretty sure this also duplicates existing health legislation.

"You should cite that."

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Postby We Couldnt Agree On A Name » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:56 pm

Let's just ban hearts.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:57 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Which is part of the committee.

I'm pretty sure this also duplicates existing health legislation.

"You should cite that."

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:00 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"You should cite that."

viewtopic.php?p=393#p393

"Minor duplication for the sake of addressing a specific issue that is part of a greater problem has always been acceptable. Especially if the author ties his work into the WHO, this wouldn't be especially illegal, otherwise the entire category would be closed off."

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:02 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:

"Minor duplication for the sake of addressing a specific issue that is part of a greater problem has always been acceptable. Especially if the author ties his work into the WHO, this wouldn't be especially illegal, otherwise the entire category would be closed off."

Yes, but this draft's purpose is to research and treat heart disease. That is already covered under WHA.
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Postby Diallus » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:04 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:

"Minor duplication for the sake of addressing a specific issue that is part of a greater problem has always been acceptable. Especially if the author ties his work into the WHO, this wouldn't be especially illegal, otherwise the entire category would be closed off."

"Would you suggest that the WHDA and MCHD be established under the World Health Authority?"
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