by Freeraria » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:55 am
by Passkia » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:02 am
Ideological Bans
Okay, so you hate capitalism. That's nice, but you can't ban it. Proposals cannot outlaw, whether through direct or indirect language, religious, political or economic ideologies. e.g. A proposal can mandate that elections are transparent and fair. In this way no ideology has been outlawed as this would affect nations that have elections while not forcing it on nations without an election system. You may consider the banning of slavery an oppression of your "economic ideology", we do not.
by Bananaistan » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:05 am
Due to the hard work of the Freerarian people, socialism in the WA has been defeated!
by Noraika » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:05 am
Freeraria wrote:No not saying that a country can not be socialist. What I am saying is that countries can not submit WA proposals to force my country to implement socialist programs.
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by Kryozerkia » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:08 am
Freeraria wrote:No not saying that a country can not be socialist. What I am saying is that countries can not submit WA proposals to force my country to implement socialist programs.
by New Leppikania » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:11 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Fantastic. All aboard the WA money waste machine.
by Barunia » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:12 am
Freeraria wrote:No not saying that a country can not be socialist. What I am saying is that countries can not submit WA proposals to force my country to implement socialist programs.
by Noraika » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:12 am
Freeraria wrote:political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
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by Freeraria » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:17 am
Noraika wrote:Freeraria wrote:political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Yeah...that's not Socialism. Socialism is the belief that those who work within a given business institution should have democratic control over said institution, through either some form of direct democracy among the workers, or by some other democratically elected system among the workers of that business, and that such a management system should be the universal norm in the economy.
With that said, even when using your definition of Socialism, the Poor People's Bill of Rights does not qualify as a "Socialist".
by Noraika » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:22 am
Freeraria wrote:Noraika wrote:Yeah...that's not Socialism. Socialism is the belief that those who work within a given business institution should have democratic control over said institution, through either some form of direct democracy among the workers, or by some other democratically elected system among the workers of that business, and that such a management system should be the universal norm in the economy.
With that said, even when using your definition of Socialism, the Poor People's Bill of Rights does not qualify as a "Socialist".
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
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by Passkia » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:27 am
by Barunia » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:28 am
by Freeraria » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:32 am
by Sierra Lyricalia » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:33 am
Noraika wrote:
1) You still have yet to explain how this is relevant to the Poor People's Bill of Rights
2) That definition is inaccurate considering that "The term ‘socialism’ has been used to describe positions as far apart as anarchism, Soviet state Communism, and social democracy;" (Oxford English Dictionaries). You're correct in stating that the above is the commonplace connotation of socialism, and how the word is used as a buzz word in politics, but it does not take into account the myriad Socialist philosophies (Anarcho-Socialism, Libertarian Socialism, Democratic Socialims, et cetera) which do not involve a planned economy. Cheers.
EDIT: Hell there's even "Market Socialism" which keeps a free market, of varying degrees while establishing Socialist democratic control over the means of production.
by Wallenburg » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:41 am
by HUElavia » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:03 am
Freeraria wrote:That proposal was an attempt to force a socialist program (redistribution of wealth) on my country. Fundamentally that is what a socialists wants, this ideal that all wealth is distributed equally across the population and everyone is taken care of equally. You could also argue that my country used a lot of anti-socialist rhetoric (which I did on purpose, for the sake of game play). This is because my country believes that socialist ideals are not realistic and lead to oppressive states.
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