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[DRAFT] On Contraceptives

Postby Alpha Gamma Kappa » Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:57 pm

On Contraceptives
by Alpha Gamma Kappa

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AFFIRMING that the right to prevent unwanted pregnancies is an indispensable liberty that is absolutely essential to individual autonomy,

LAMENTING that it has failed to ensure that individuals are able to exercise this freedom through the use of contraceptives, and

WISHING to secure the right to use contraceptives through the enactment and enforcement of this resolution,

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY HEREBY

  1. Defines, for the purpose of enforcing this resolution, the term "contraceptive" as "a drug, device, or method that is intended to prevent conception."

  2. Mandates that World Assembly member nations legalize the development, manufacture, transportation, distribution, procurement, possession, and use of all safe contraceptives.

  3. Orders member nations to ensure that persons within their jurisdictions are able to legally and readily obtain safe, effective contraceptives.

  4. Requires member nations to make certain that their residents are adequately educated on how to safely and effectively use contraceptives for the purpose of preventing conception.

  5. Prohibits member nations from permitting the coercion of persons within their jurisdictions into using or abstaining from using contraceptives.

  6. Encourages member nations to combat any social stigma within their jurisdictions that is associated with the legal manufacture, distribution, or use of safe, effective contraceptives.

RECOGNIZING the right to prevent unwanted pregnancies as an indispensable liberty that is absolutely essential to individual autonomy,

LAMENTING that it has failed to enable individuals to exercise this freedom through the use of contraceptives, and

WISHING to secure the right to use contraceptives through the enactment and enforcement of this resolution,

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY HEREBY

  1. Defines, for the purpose of enforcing this resolution, the term "contraceptive" as "a drug, device, or method that is intended to prevent conception."

  2. Mandates that member nations legalize the development, manufacture, transportation, distribution, procurement, possession, and use of all safe, effective contraceptives.

  3. Orders member nations to ensure that their citizens are able to legally and readily obtain safe, effective contraceptives.

  4. Requires member nations to prohibit the manufacture and distribution of contraceptives that pose a likely threat to the safety of their users, even if utilized as intended.

  5. Prohibits member nations from permitting the coercion of their citizens into using or abstaining from using contraceptives.

  6. Encourages member nations to make certain that their citizens are adequately educated on how to use contraceptives to safely and effectively prevent conception.

  7. Advises member nations to combat any social stigma within their jurisdictions that is associated with the manufacture, distribution, or use of safe, effective contraceptives.
RECOGNIZING the right to prevent unwanted pregnancies as an indispensable liberty that is absolutely essential to a person's individual autonomy,

LAMENTING that it has failed to enable individuals to exercise this right through the use of contraceptives, and

WISHING to secure the right to use contraceptives through the enactment and enforcement of this resolution,

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY hereby does the following:

  1. Defines, for the purposes of this resolution, the term "contraceptive" as a drug, device, or method that is intended to prevent conception.

  2. Mandates that member nations legalize the development, manufacture, transportation, distribution, procurement, possession, and use of all safe, effective contraceptives.

  3. Orders member nations to ensure that their citizens are able to readily and legally obtain safe, effective contraceptives.

  4. Prohibits member nations from forcing or coercing of their citizens into using contraceptives without their informed consent.

  5. Urges member nations to prohibit the manufacture and distribution of contraceptives that pose a likely threat to the safety of their users, even if utilized as intended.

  6. Encourages member nations to make certain that their citizens are adequately educated on how to use contraceptives to safely and effectively prevent conception.

  7. Advises member nations to combat any social stigma within their jurisdictions that is associated with the manufacture, distribution, or use of safe, effective contraceptives.
FEELING that the right to prevent unwanted pregnancies is an indispensable liberty that is absolutely essential to a person's individual autonomy,

LAMENTING that it has failed to enable individuals to exercise this right through the use of contraceptives, and

WISHING to secure the right to use contraceptives through the enactment and enforcement of this resolution,

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY hereby does the following:

1. Defines, for the purpose of enforcing this resolution, the term "contraceptive" as "a drug, device, or method that is intended to prevent conception."

2. Requires World Assembly member states to legalize the development, manufacture, transportation, distribution, procurement, possession, and use of all safe, effective contraceptives.

3. Mandates that World Assembly member states ensure that their citizens are able to readily and legally obtain safe, effective contraceptives.

4. Prohibits World Assembly member states from permitting the forcing or coercing of their citizens into using contraceptives without their informed consent.

5. Urges World Assembly member states to prohibit the manufacture and distribution of contraceptives that pose a likely threat to the safety of their users, even if utilized as intended.

6. Encourages World Assembly member states to make certain that their citizens are adequately educated on how to use contraceptives to safely and effectively prevent conception.

7. Advises World Assembly member states to combat any social stigma within their jurisdictions that is associated with the manufacture, distribution, or use of safe, effective contraceptives.
FEELING that the right to prevent unwanted pregnancies is an indispensable liberty that is absolutely essential to a person's individual autonomy; AND

LAMENTING that it has failed to enable individuals to exercise this right through the use of contraceptives; AND

WISHING to secure the right to use contraceptives through the enactment and enforcement of this resolution,

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY

DEFINES, for the purpose of enforcing this resolution, the term "contraceptive" as "a drug, device, or method that is intended to prevent conception"; AND

REQUIRES World Assembly member states to legalize the development, manufacture, transportation, distribution, procurement, possession, and use of all safe, effective contraceptives; AND

MANDATES that World Assembly member states ensure that their citizens are able to readily and legally obtain safe, effective contraceptives; AND

PROHIBITS World Assembly member states from forcing or coercing their citizens into using contraceptives without their informed consent; AND

URGES World Assembly member states to prohibit the manufacture and distribution of contraceptives that pose a likely threat to the safety of their users, even if utilized as intended; AND

ENCOURAGES World Assembly member states to make certain that their citizens are adequately educated on how to use contraceptives to safely and effectively prevent conception; AND

ADVISES World Assembly member states to combat any social stigma within their jurisdictions that is associated with the manufacture, distribution, or use of safe, effective contraceptives; AND

HEREBY ENACTS "On Contraceptives" and its provisions.
RECOGNIZING the right to prevent unwanted pregnancies as an indispensable liberty that is absolutely essential to a person's individual autonomy; AND

CELEBRATING the fact that this Assembly has passed resolutions that affirm the legality of the termination of pregnancy on multiple occasions; BUT

LAMENTING that it has failed to protect the right of individuals to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place; AND

WISHING to secure the right to use contraceptives through the enactment and enforcement of this resolution,

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY

DEFINES, for the purpose of enforcing this resolution, the term "contraceptive" as "a drug, device, or method that is intended to prevent conception"; AND

MANDATES that World Assembly member states legalize the development, manufacture, transportation, distribution, procurement, possession, and use of all safe, effective contraceptives; AND

INSISTS that World Assembly member states ensure that their citizens are able to easily obtain safe, effective contraceptives; AND

PROHIBITS World Assembly member states from mandating or coercing their citizens into using contraceptives without their informed consent; AND

URGES World Assembly member states to prohibit the manufacture and distribution of contraceptives that pose a likely threat to the safety of their users, even if utilized as intended; AND

ENCOURAGES World Assembly member states to make certain that their citizens are adequately educated on how to use contraceptives to safely and effectively prevent conception; AND

ADVISES World Assembly member states to combat any social stigma within their jurisdictions that is associated with the manufacture, distribution, or use of safe, effective contraceptives; AND

HEREBY ENACTS "On Contraceptives" and its provisions.
UNDERSTANDING that this Assembly has passed resolutions that affirm the legality of the termination on pregnancy on multiple occasions; BUT

REGRETTING that it has failed to protect the right of individuals to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place; AND

WISHING to secure the right to use contraceptives through the enactment and enforcement of this resolution,

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY

DEFINES, for the purpose of enforcing this resolution, the term "contraceptive" as "a drug or device that is used to prevent conception"; AND

MANDATES that World Assembly member states legalize the development, manufacture, transportation, distribution, procurement, possession, and use of all safe, effective contraceptives; AND

INSISTS that World Assembly member states ensure that their citizens are able to easily obtain safe, effective contraceptives; AND

URGES World Assembly member states to prohibit the manufacture and distribution of contraceptives that pose a threat to the safety of their users, even if utilized as intended; AND

ENCOURAGES World Assembly member states to make certain that their citizens are adequately educated on how to use contraceptives to safely and effectively prevent conception; AND

ADVISES World Assembly member states to combat any social stigma within their jurisdictions that is associated with the manufacture, distribution, or use of safe, effective contraceptives; AND

HEREBY ENACTS "On Contraceptives" and its provisions.
UNDERSTANDING that this Assembly has passed resolutions that affirm the legality of the termination on pregnancy on multiple occasions; BUT

LAMENTING that it has failed to protect the right of individuals to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place; AND

WISHING to secure the right to use contraceptives through the enactment and enforcement of this resolution,

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY

DEFINES, for the purpose of enforcing this resolution, the term "contraceptive" as "a drug or device that is used to prevent conception"; AND

MANDATES that World Assembly member states legalize the manufacture, transportation, distribution, procurement, possession, and use of all safe, effective contraceptives; AND

REQUIRES World Assembly member states to prohibit the manufacture and distribution of contraceptives that pose a threat to the safety of their users, even if utilized as intended; AND

INSISTS that World Assembly member states ensure that their citizens are able to easily obtain safe, effective contraceptives; AND

ADVISES World Assembly member states to make certain that their citizens are adequately educated on how to use contraceptives to safely and effectively prevent conception; AND

ENCOURAGES World Assembly member states to combat any social stigma within their jurisdictions that is associated with the manufacture, distribution, or use of safe, effective contraceptives; AND

HEREBY ENACTS "On Contraceptives" and its provisions.
Celebrating that this Assembly has affirmed the legality of the termination on pregnancy on multiple occasions; but

Lamenting that it has failed to protect the right of individuals to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place; and

Hoping to secure the right to use contraceptives through the enactment and enforcement of this resolution,

The World Assembly

Defines, for the purpose of enforcing this resolution, the term "contraceptive" as "a drug or device that is used to prevent conception"; and

Mandates that World Assembly member states legalize the manufacture, transportation, distribution, procurement, possession, and use of all safe, effective contraceptives; and

Requires World Assembly member states to ensure that their citizens are able to easily obtain safe, effective contraceptives; and

Orders World Assembly member states to make certain that their citizens are adequately educated on how to use contraceptives to safely and effectively prevent contraception; and

Insists that World Assembly member states prohibit the manufacture and distribution of contraceptives that pose a threat to the safety of their users, even if utilized as intended; and

Encourages World Assembly member states to combat any social stigma within their jurisdictions that is associated with the manufacture, distribution, or use of safe, effective contraceptives; and

Adopts "On Contraceptives" and its provisions.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:25 pm

Alpha Gamma Kappa wrote:Adopts "On Contraceptives" and its provisions.

Parsons: Opposed due to the inclusion of this line. (OOC: Please note that I haven't read the actual document and will get back to you on the actual document's provisions shortly. However, also note that I hate this line and am currently in a crusade to obliterate such annoyances.)

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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:56 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Alpha Gamma Kappa wrote:Adopts "On Contraceptives" and its provisions.

Parsons: Opposed due to the inclusion of this line. (OOC: Please note that I haven't read the actual document and will get back to you on the actual document's provisions shortly. However, also note that I hate this line and am currently in a crusade to obliterate such annoyances.)

Because God forbid things aren't done exactly as you want them. You forget to preface your resolutions with "The World Assembly" and no one complains.

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Postby Liagolas » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:40 am

"It is the concern of the Dominion that this resolution, while well-meaning, may not be in the best interest of some nations within the World Assembly," the Mouth of the Dominion says, sounding vaguely concerned despite its stolid air. "It is the 'Encourages' clause that we believe may require change. To ask that the governments of World Assembly states combat any social stigma associated with effective contraceptives may equate to asking some to violate rights to religion and belief within their borders. Some World Assembly states have very strongly established freedoms where even mild intervention by the government to, say, dispel stigmas could be in violation of those freedoms."

Now sounding oddly sheepish, the Mouth continues and says, "It is the concession of the Dominion that it is possible our fears may be unfounded, as we are not one such nation. However, it is the view of the Dominion that such a diverse body as this World Assembly likely contains some states who may have the objections we described."
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:26 am

The Silver Sentinel wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Parsons: Opposed due to the inclusion of this line. (OOC: Please note that I haven't read the actual document and will get back to you on the actual document's provisions shortly. However, also note that I hate this line and am currently in a crusade to obliterate such annoyances.)

Because God forbid things aren't done exactly as you want them. You forget to preface your resolutions with "The World Assembly" and no one complains.

Secondarily, I find bolding the operative words an affront to decency, so I'll vote against anything which does that too. Also, to the author, you don't need to say 'World Assembly member nation' every single time. You can just say 'member nation'.

There's something wrong with your 'Orders' clause. I believe you mean 'conception'.
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Postby Liagolas » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:31 am

"Mr. Parsons, surely you jest," the Mouth says, sounding somewhat surprised. "It is the concession of the Dominion that we, too, can be particular about many things within our borders, but rejecting a resolution based on stylistic differences seems to be a bit much. While the Dominion similarly does not find the boldfacing of words to be visually pleasing either, we do not wish to reject this resolution on that basis alone."
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:33 am

Liagolas wrote:rejecting a resolution based on stylistic differences seems to be a bit much

Parsons looks startled as well, and responds 'We have, by no means, rejected the proposal. We have simply requested, most forcefully, its change'. He then jots off a sheet of paper, hands it to a telegram boy, and prepares to face the onslaught of 'seriously? -_-' from the other ambassadors present. He starts sipping a hot cup of Darjeeling tea and murmurs under his breath, 'standards'.

OOC: Man it is late. I've edited it to reflect the RP that the person above gave and corrected a few typos in the text.
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Postby Liagolas » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:37 am

"Then it is the Dominion's wish to apologize for the misassumption," the Mouth says with a respectful nod. "We did not mean to accuse you of irrationality, and it is the pleasure of the Dominion to know that you have not yet rejected the resolution on such grounds.

"...Though it is the admission of the Dominion that we are not yet certain if we support this resolution. There yet remain other points of concern that the Dominion wishes the author to address."
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Liagolas wrote:"...Though it is the admission of the Dominion that we are not yet certain if we support this resolution. There yet remain other points of concern that the Dominion wishes the author to address."

Parsons says, 'As do we. There are a number of typographical errors and other sections of policy which must be addressed, if not administration of such policies in the associated states.'

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Postby Alpha Gamma Kappa » Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:36 pm

Liagolas wrote:"It is the concern of the Dominion that this resolution, while well-meaning, may not be in the best interest of some nations within the World Assembly," the Mouth of the Dominion says, sounding vaguely concerned despite its stolid air. "It is the 'Encourages' clause that we believe may require change. To ask that the governments of World Assembly states combat any social stigma associated with effective contraceptives may equate to asking some to violate rights to religion and belief within their borders. Some World Assembly states have very strongly established freedoms where even mild intervention by the government to, say, dispel stigmas could be in violation of those freedoms."

Now sounding oddly sheepish, the Mouth continues and says, "It is the concession of the Dominion that it is possible our fears may be unfounded, as we are not one such nation. However, it is the view of the Dominion that such a diverse body as this World Assembly likely contains some states who may have the objections we described."

"We fail to see how it is necessary to violate individuals' freedoms of religion, belief, and speech to combat their negative view on contraceptives. Member states could simply utilize advertising campaigns, for instance, to educate their citizens on contraceptives to help dispel any negative beliefs they may have about them.

"By the way, we've amended our draft."

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:20 pm

Get rid of the 'AND's (except for the last 'and', not capitalised, before the last clause on the second to last line).
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"We fully support this proposal. We fully agree with Parsons's stylistic recommendations, also; but if you ignore them it's not a deal-breaker."
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:05 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:"We fully support this proposal. We fully agree with Parsons's stylistic recommendations, also; but if you ignore them it's not a deal-breaker."

'Huh'. Madsons (OOC: because Parsons is much more sane and it's fun to RP as an insane person) looks to his copy of the proposal and jumps out of his chair screaming 'HEREBY ENACTS!' over and over again whilst foaming at the mouth with a yeast-filled alcoholic beverage.

Parsons ignores the rambling madman who is bumbling about the chamber and hands the ΑΓΚ member a sheet of paper.

Understanding that this Assembly has passed resolutions that affirm the legality of the termination on pregnancy on multiple occasions,

Lamenting that it has failed to protect the right of individuals to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place, and

Wishing to secure the right to use contraceptives through the enactment and enforcement of this resolution,

This august World Assembly hereby:

  1. Defines, for the purposes of this resolution, 'contraceptive' as a drug or device that is used to prevent conception;

  2. Mandates that member nations legalize the manufacture, transportation, distribution, procurement, possession, and use of all safe effective contraceptives;

  3. Requires member nations to prohibit the manufacture and distribution of contraceptives that pose a threat to the safety of their users, even if utilized as intended; AND Exactly how much of a threat does it have to pose? I believe this provision should be left up the member nations anyhow.

  4. Insists Encourages member nations ensure that their citizens are able to easily obtain safe, effective contraceptives;

  5. Urges member nations to educate their citizens the safe and effective use of contraceptives to prevent conception; and

  6. Recommends that member nations combat social stigmas associated with the manufacture, distribution, and use of contraceptives.
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Postby Alpha Gamma Kappa » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:35 pm

"We've made a few modifications to the draft."

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Postby Tinfect » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:47 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:'Huh'. Madsons (OOC: because Parsons is much more sane and it's fun to RP as an insane person) looks to his copy of the proposal and jumps out of his chair screaming 'HEREBY ENACTS!' over and over again whilst foaming at the mouth with a yeast-filled alcoholic beverage.


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Alpha Gamma Kappa wrote:ENCOURAGES World Assembly member states to make certain that their citizens are adequately educated on how to use contraceptives to safely and effectively prevent conception; AND

ADVISES World Assembly member states to combat any social stigma within their jurisdictions that is associated with the manufacture, distribution, or use of safe, effective contraceptives;


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Postby We Couldnt Agree On A Name » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:54 pm

We're willing to support this, though I'd prefer that
HEREBY ENACTS "On Contraceptives" and its provisions.
be removed.

Tinfect wrote:"It is the belief of the Imperium, that these two clauses should be altered to Mandates. However, we are prepared to support the current draft."

Please don't.
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Postby Liagolas » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:46 pm

"The Dominion does not think it has reason to fear or object to this resolution," the Mouth says very slowly. "It is the will of the Dominion to give tentative support."

For those interested, the Mouth is mostly uncertain because the conception and bearing of children is actually a job that the government selects and "employs" temporarily (in the sense that anyone on Liagolas is emplyed) people for. Those not selected are given mandatory contraceptive implants. But since this resolution doesn't seem to necessarily force Liagolas to stop doing that, the Mouth is only a little hesitant. When your nation is an Orwellian and oppressive dictatorship, you've got to be careful in the World Assembly.
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Postby Kilimantonian » Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:41 pm

"Kilimantonian fully supports this resolution, and bother Ambassador Parsons' typographical changes," shouts Lord Diplomat Jimmy H. Franklin. "Full steam ahead!"

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It feels better with an "adopts" clause, or something such as that. I don't truly believe it's necessary to go around yelling at people for an extra clause that does nothing and bothers no-one.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:49 pm

Kilimantonian wrote:"Kilimantonian fully supports this resolution, and bother Ambassador Parsons' typographical changes," shouts Lord Diplomat Jimmy H. Franklin. "Full steam ahead!"

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It feels better with an "adopts" clause, or something such as that. I don't truly believe it's necessary to go around yelling at people for an extra clause that does nothing and bothers no-one.

You admit it does nothing. Many of us prefer concise, not verbose, law.
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Postby The United Neptumousian Empire » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:02 pm

"The UNE will not support this resolution, for our primary species biology does not permit the use of most contraceptives, and their purpose is inherently contrary to the teachings of the Church of Mystica."

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:29 pm

'Should this come to a vote, I will oppose it on account for its bad writing. It has not passed the muster of the two great tests: (1) why this subject should be legislated upon and (2) why this should be the legislation upon that subject. If we are to enter the end game', Parsons concludes, 'then let the leaves fall where they may. I will be fanning the air the entire time'.

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Postby Liagolas » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:59 pm

The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:"The UNE will not support this resolution, for our primary species biology does not permit the use of most contraceptives, and their purpose is inherently contrary to the teachings of the Church of Mystica."

"If there are no safe contraceptives for your species, then would that mean that the resolution has no power over your nation?" the Mouth asks. "There would be no way to provide your denizens safe contraceptives, and there would be no contraceptives to educate them to use safely. The Dominion is uncertain if you have any need to fear this resolution."

Imperium Anglorum wrote:'Should this come to a vote, I will oppose it on account for its bad writing. It has not passed the muster of the two great tests: (1) why this subject should be legislated upon and (2) why this should be the legislation upon that subject. If we are to enter the end game', Parsons concludes, 'then let the leaves fall where they may. I will be fanning the air the entire time'.

"To pass the first test, it is the suggestion of the Dominion to add the following in the first half of the resolution:"

WHEREAS the right to prevent unwanted pregnancies is a cornerstone of the right to control one's own self,


"And it is the desire of the Dominion to hear how this may be improved so that the resolution itself may be further improved," the Mouth says.
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Postby Kilimantonian » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:35 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Kilimantonian wrote:"Kilimantonian fully supports this resolution, and bother Ambassador Parsons' typographical changes," shouts Lord Diplomat Jimmy H. Franklin. "Full steam ahead!"

OOC: Did I annoy you yet, IA? :p

It feels better with an "adopts" clause, or something such as that. I don't truly believe it's necessary to go around yelling at people for an extra clause that does nothing and bothers no-one.

You admit it does nothing. Many of us prefer concise, not verbose, law.


Yet you admit that it is harmless. Why go on a witch-hunt for such wording? A few more characters never hurt anyone. You are entitled to your opinion about the wording, but I hold my own.
WA debater/ambassador is Jimmy H. Franklin

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:50 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:'Should this come to a vote, I will oppose it on account for its bad writing. It has not passed the muster of the two great tests: (1) why this subject should be legislated upon and (2) why this should be the legislation upon that subject. If we are to enter the end game', Parsons concludes, 'then let the leaves fall where they may. I will be fanning the air the entire time'.

"Well, One, because the General Assembly has made a point of making liberal sexual freedoms an international issue, and not only does it have the power to do so, it has a long precedence of doing exactly that. Two, because limiting sexual freedom is a means by which states oppress their people, and the General Assembly stands against that sort of oppression. This proposal makes contraceptives, a vital part of sexual freedom and public health, available, but not mandatory to use. That is about as fair as it gets, given the World Assembly's opinion on the matter."

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:00 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:'Should this come to a vote, I will oppose it on account for its bad writing. It has not passed the muster of the two great tests: (1) why this subject should be legislated upon and (2) why this should be the legislation upon that subject. If we are to enter the end game', Parsons concludes, 'then let the leaves fall where they may. I will be fanning the air the entire time'.

"Well, One, because the General Assembly has made a point of making liberal sexual freedoms an international issue, and not only does it have the power to do so, it has a long precedence of doing exactly that. Two, because limiting sexual freedom is a means by which states oppress their people, and the General Assembly stands against that sort of oppression. This proposal makes contraceptives, a vital part of sexual freedom and public health, available, but not mandatory to use. That is about as fair as it gets, given the World Assembly's opinion on the matter."

Parsons responds, 'the first statement can basically be summarised to "the WA is the WA" and the second one to "Guys. Let's stand against oppression". The second reason, if crossapplied to the first question, is a valid response which, if impacted, would have some weight. The second question, however, has not been adequately answered, in my opinion'. He pauses, 'I would also, naturally, desire that the author defend his own proposals merits and demerits rather than relying on the defences provided by others'.

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