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[DRAFT] Repeal "Nuclear Arms Protocol"

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Kouassi
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Postby Kouassi » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:10 am

Ok, so sorry but if you have no good intelligence system or interceptors then it is your fault really. Winning a war means using all means necessary and the WA should not hold that back.

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:31 am

Kouassi wrote:Ok, so sorry but if you have no good intelligence system or interceptors then it is your fault really. Winning a war means using all means necessary and the WA should not hold that back.

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Postby Kouassi » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:51 am

HMMM Once this passes your capitol will be the first city to feel the nukes.

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Postby Normlpeople » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:53 am

Kouassi wrote:Ok, so sorry but if you have no good intelligence system or interceptors then it is your fault really. Winning a war means using all means necessary and the WA should not hold that back.


Clover replied "The WA isn't holding you back from targetting legitimate military assets. Tossing nukes into civilian areas without military assets present is not only foolish and wasteful, but absolutely abhorrent as well. The WA has done well to forbid this practice. Is there some reason why you feel nuking innocent, unarmed civilians is justifiable? How does this action 'win' a war?"
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Postby Tinfect » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:15 am

"Ambassador, the 'proposal' you have brought here, is nearly incomprehensible, its arguments are childish, and contradictory at best. If you truly wish to repeal the Nuclear Arms Protocol, you will need a far superior draft, before you even consider submission to the Secretariat.

Further, your statements in this debate, regarding Civilians, and your national policy in regard to nuclear missiles, are reprehensible. The sole effect of this legislation is to ensure that Governments do not target Civilian Populations with nuclear weapons. If this constitutes an unacceptable regulation of your military, you are perfectly free to leave the world assembly. Your Delegation, and your abhorrent position regarding civilians in wartime, will not be missed.

As for your more recent statements, Not all Member States make a habit of spying on others, and the technology required to effectively intercept nuclear missiles may simply not exist in a Member State. Though, I fail to see how that argument was intended to support your position, other than to show your absolute contempt for sane practices in warfare.

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Postby The Sheika » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:20 am

Kouassi wrote:I will be editing this a lot soon.


Nukes, should not be controlled. Damn, hippies get over yourself.


The want to preserve innocent life does not a hippy make. Ambassador, instead of throwing around empty arguments such as this, you might want to consider using actual facts and information to support your position.

Ok, so sorry but if you have no good intelligence system or interceptors then it is your fault really. Winning a war means using all means necessary and the WA should not hold that back.


I wish I could take your arguments serious, but statements such as this put me under the impression you are the type to sing or hum "Johnny get your gun" even if the probability of a tactical mission ending in a slaughter is very likely. Winning a war does not mean using all means necessary, it is a matter of using better strategy. Might I recommend reading texts that cover the art of war?

HMMM Once this passes your capitol will be the first city to feel the nukes.


*mockingly applauds* Oh yes, you showed them, didn't you? I am going to give you some advice, and although it is free the value is immeasurable. If you want to have a lasting career in the WA, you are going to have to learn that not all ideas are popular ones. Thus far, you have been the only one in favor of your repeal which usually indicates it might be a good idea to let it go or come up with a better argument.

As it stands, the Militaristic Federation of the Sheika is staunchly opposed and is in support of the Ambassador of Tinfect.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:31 am

Kouassi wrote:HMMM Once this passes your capitol will be the first city to feel the nukes.

"You're welcome to try. it would be amusing, since the military size of most of the nations you're threatening is larger than your entire population. Your victim blaming and really pathetic threats are not going to change any minds. Your nation is a minuscule, entirely non-threatening entity and your argument is right up there with blaming rape victims for being raped. Please stop while you have some credibility left."
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Postby New DeCapito » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:35 am

If I may interrupt, a simpler solution to using nuclear weapons is simply to leave the World Assembly...
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:36 am

New DeCapito wrote:If I may interrupt, a simpler solution to using nuclear weapons is simply to leave the World Assembly...

"We're all hoping desperately that becomes the result."

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Postby Kouassi » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:39 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
New DeCapito wrote:If I may interrupt, a simpler solution to using nuclear weapons is simply to leave the World Assembly...

"We're all hoping desperately that becomes the result."



it isn't hard to get in or out of the assembly. Lol, you think you got a better military. Once I find my old one we can test that.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:42 am

Kouassi wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"We're all hoping desperately that becomes the result."



it isn't hard to get in or out of the assembly. Lol, you think you got a better military. Once I find my old one we can test that.

"Ambassador, what on earth are you talking about? Do you have two separate militaries? How on earth does that make logistical sense?"

OOC: if you can pull up an old puppet, good for your. Your puppet wasn't making the claims, Kouassi was. It's just puppetwanking otherwise, which nobody approves of.

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Postby The Sheika » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:48 am

Kouassi wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"We're all hoping desperately that becomes the result."

it isn't hard to get in or out of the assembly. Lol, you think you got a better military. Once I find my old one we can test that.


Not that you will listen, but I would strongly advise against such action. Making the first strike would put you at a tactical disadvantage especially if unprovoked aside from the brush against your ego.
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Goku69587
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Postby Goku69587 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:09 am

this is my new account. No more stupid bills.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:34 am

Goku69587 wrote:this is my new account. No more stupid bills.

"Awesome. We're done here. Ok, folks, lets hit the bar."

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Postby Dirtcrakia » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:51 am

The main purpose of human beings is survival. Allowing tools that can lead to our own self-destruction is anti-nature. If a species dies off, it should be a natural extinction. Not an extinction caused by the species itself. Therefore nuclear weapons should be banned outright internationally.

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Postby Wrapper » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:34 am

Kouassi wrote:Nukes, should not be controlled. Damn, hippies get over yourself.

(Ari and Ahume quietly flash peace signs at the Kouassi representative, while Arya gives him the finger.)

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:36 am

OOC: I think this is dead, guys. Apparently the OP failed to find an actual argument, and further failed to find his old nation with which to bully us into agreeing with him. As far as I can tell, this is dead.

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Postby Goku69587 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:56 am

Goku69587 wrote:this is my new account. No more stupid bills.



Please I ended the bill. I started a new nation. Kouassi's nation left the WA. I am him I just said I was making no more stupid bills. I just wanted to create chaos. :)

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:02 am

Goku69587 wrote:
Goku69587 wrote:this is my new account. No more stupid bills.



Please I ended the bill. I started a new nation. Kouassi's nation left the WA. I am him I just said I was making no more stupid bills. I just wanted to create chaos. :)

OOC: aha, so trolling. Lovely to hear that you've literally no interest in playing properly.

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Postby Wrapper » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:31 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: I think this is dead, guys. Apparently the OP failed to find an actual argument, and further failed to find his old nation with which to bully us into agreeing with him. As far as I can tell, this is dead.

Sorry, misread that. Turkey hangover.

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Goku69587
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Postby Goku69587 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:13 am

lol I will play right now.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:17 am

Goku69587 wrote:lol I will play right now.

OOC: We'll believe that when we ... wait, no we won't. Starting off by admitting to trolling has left you with zero credibility, regardless of which puppet you use.
Everything you know about me is wrong. Or a rumor. Something like that.

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Goku69587
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Postby Goku69587 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:32 pm

lol kid it won't matter. :)

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:28 pm

Goku69587 wrote:lol kid it won't matter. :)

GH is, like, in his mid sixties, and has been playing this game since it's creation. You'd do well to listen to his advice.

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Postby Araraukar » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:28 am

Kouassi wrote:HMMM Once this passes your capitol will be the first city to feel the nukes.

OOC: It doesn't have a snowball's chance in a lava lake to pass, and "I'll nuke you!" as an excuse for roleplay is #1 reason why I hate NAPA. Banning the damn things would stop people like you making such idiotic claims.

On the NS forums, war needs 2 willing participants, the attacker and the defender. One-sided wars are not roleplay, they're more likely just trolling. The other people here are too nice to you, pretending in their in-character mode that their nations really give a shit about your nation, when they can full well ignore its existence. And before you get pissy at me, Araraukar doesn't exist in the same universe as any other WA nation (with mild exception my own WA puppet nation).

L2RP.

The Sheika wrote:The want to preserve innocent life does not a hippy make.

IC: Indeed. You can be completely hippy and not care about the preservation of innocent lives. (OOC: That's basically how I RP this nation.)

Goku69587 wrote:Please I ended the bill. I started a new nation. Kouassi's nation left the WA. I am him I just said I was making no more stupid bills. I just wanted to create chaos. :)
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