[PASSED] Toxic Heavy Metals Act

[Kaboomlandia]

I've made a last-minute change. The WASP now defines what is toxic.

EDIT: And submitted. The name was two or three characters too long, so I had to drop the "Convention" part.

Approval link is in the OP!

[Araraukar]

EDIT: And submitted. The name was two or three characters too long, so I had to drop the "Convention" part.

Change thread an latest draft titles to match, so people who look at submissions will be able to find the right thread. Also, I hope you're aware there are some delegates with quite a few votes behind them, who absolutely loathe any proposal starting with "On"? You could've just made it "Toxic Heavy Metals Act" or "Toxic Heavy Metals Convention", there was no reason to shoot yourself in the foot.

[Kaboomlandia]

EDIT: And submitted. The name was two or three characters too long, so I had to drop the "Convention" part.

Change thread an latest draft titles to match, so people who look at submissions will be able to find the right thread. Also, I hope you're aware there are some delegates with quite a few votes behind them, who absolutely loathe any proposal starting with "On"? You could've just made it "Toxic Heavy Metals Act" or "Toxic Heavy Metals Convention", there was no reason to shoot yourself in the foot.

I didn't realize starting with "On" was quite that unpopular.

Have filed GHR to yank, will resend out once it's done. Seeing as I've already TG'd the first sixteen pages of delegates, I will include a note differentiating in those telegrams.

[Kaboomlandia]

Sent back to the floor, link updated.

[Araraukar]

I didn't realize starting with "On" was quite that unpopular.

OOC: For the record, I think it's a stupid grudge (you know who you are! ), but I thought you might want to avoid getting delegate votes stacked against just because of that.

[Bananaistan]

Can anyone explain why toxic heavy metals are such an awful thing for individuals and private organisations to use but just peachy for the government? Are they suddenly safe in the hands of a soldier?

[Araraukar]

Can anyone explain why toxic heavy metals are such an awful thing for individuals and private organisations to use but just peachy for the government? Are they suddenly safe in the hands of a soldier?

I think the idea is that it's in the best interests of the government to keep the people working for it healthy, and that includes soldiers in the nation's own military. Whereas private organisations might care more about, say, their profits, than of the wefare of their workers. (OOC: Do note that I don't necessarily agree with this entirely.)

[John Turner]

Can anyone explain why toxic heavy metals are such an awful thing for individuals and private organisations to use but just peachy for the government? Are they suddenly safe in the hands of a soldier?

Government supplied safety equipment?

[Imperium Anglorum]

Can anyone explain why toxic heavy metals are such an awful thing for individuals and private organisations to use but just peachy for the government? Are they suddenly safe in the hands of a soldier?

Because players, i.e. governments, care about how they are used.

[Kaboomlandia]

Okay. Since it appears this is going to miss quorum by miles, I'm seeing if I can possibly borrow the Europeian API to campaign for it.

[Imperium Anglorum]

I've made a last-minute change. The WASP now defines what is toxic.

I don't see how we need the WASP to define what is toxic. It opens a significant avenue for it to take control from other nations. The most I would be willing to go on this one is to look at the places where international cooperation is necessary on the subject of toxic materials. But I do not see many.

[Bananaistan]

Can anyone explain why toxic heavy metals are such an awful thing for individuals and private organisations to use but just peachy for the government? Are they suddenly safe in the hands of a soldier?

I think the idea is that it's in the best interests of the government to keep the people working for it healthy, and that includes soldiers in the nation's own military. Whereas private organisations might care more about, say, their profits, than of the wefare of their workers. (OOC: Do note that I don't necessarily agree with this entirely.)

Can anyone explain why toxic heavy metals are such an awful thing for individuals and private organisations to use but just peachy for the government? Are they suddenly safe in the hands of a soldier?

Government supplied safety equipment?

Reply to both of the above: Isn't the premise of the whole proposal far more to do with the long term protection of the environment rather than the short term health of those handling the toxic heavy metals?

Can anyone explain why toxic heavy metals are such an awful thing for individuals and private organisations to use but just peachy for the government? Are they suddenly safe in the hands of a soldier?

Because players, i.e. governments, care about how they are used.

If governments care about everything then almost all WA resolutions are pointless.

Obviously I'm not at all convinced about this military exemption.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Because players, i.e. governments, care about how they are used.

If governments care about everything then almost all WA resolutions are pointless.

Because players will vote against without such a clause. And the lack of such a clause is instant repeal fodder.

[The Puddle Jumping Wads of Wrapper]

Obviously I'm not at all convinced about this military exemption.

ARI: Yes, neither does this co-author, but, we support the idea because, as we understand it, most issues with toxic heavy metals are from industrial and not military applications.

[Kryptic Slaughter]

I Agree with replace Toxic Metals with Safer Things. But I would use the metals for Nuclear War. Shouldn't Let Good Toxic metal Go To Waste!
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Evil is always possible. Goodness is a difficulty!

[New Dukaine]

Obviously I'm not at all convinced about this military exemption.

ARI: Yes, neither does this co-author, but, we support the idea because, as we understand it, most issues with toxic heavy metals are from industrial and not military applications.

OOC: Technically your the coauthor but whatevs

IC: "Ambassador, we agree with fellow ambassador Ari. Issues in the... What do those aliens call it? Oh! United States of America, well, are...related in this way. •Pama looks up on Wikipedia the USA•

[Wrapper]

ARI: Yes, neither does this co-author, but, we support the idea because, as we understand it, most issues with toxic heavy metals are from industrial and not military applications.

OOC: Technically your the coauthor but whatevs

OOC: Umm. And? Oh, I see, "this" co-author. He's referencing himself in a stilted manner. It's the type of hoity-toity speech this character frequently uses in the debate halls.

Anyway, what have we learned this time, Kaboom? Gotta have that campaign ready to go before you submit. You'll get it right eventually.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Anyway, what have we learned this time, Kaboom? Gotta have that campaign ready to go before you submit. You'll get it right eventually.

I've always done fine having my campaigns ready a few minutes after I submit. The real issue is (1) breadth and (2) speed. The telegram API allows massive breadth with moderate speed. Going at it with templates is going to minimise both of them. Naturally, stamps are still the best.

[Kaboomlandia]

Sole co-author is now Wrapper, as I was specifically informed not to use UFoC (who is DOS) as a co-author.

[Kaboomlandia]

Seeing as the queue is nearly empty at the moment, I'm going to give this another try at a manual campaign, but on the front page this time around.

[Sciongrad]

OOC: Save yourself the trouble.

[Kaboomlandia]

OOC: Save yourself the trouble.

Sadly, that won't work because I'm on a Mac.

[Imperium Anglorum]

OOC: Save yourself the trouble.

Sadly, that won't work because I'm on a Mac.

Communiqué solves that problem. I use a Mac.

[Kaboomlandia]

Current status: 32 approvals (26% of quorum) in 19 hours. I have sent 859 telegrams manually, 734 have gotten through, and the vast majority probably haven't even seen the telegram, so things are looking good.

For comparison, I had 37 total approvals on the last submission.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Current status: 32 approvals (26% of quorum) in 19 hours. I have sent 859 telegrams manually, 734 have gotten through, and the vast majority probably haven't even seen the telegram, so things are looking good. For comparison, I had 37 total approvals on the last submission.

This... is why I gave up manual telegramming.