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Should this be a voting topic in the WA?

Yes
2
7%
No
25
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Total votes : 27

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True Refuge
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Founded: Jul 14, 2015
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Postby True Refuge » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:33 pm

IC: While I applaud the Ambassador for their efforts, we have no doubt this proposal will fail when submitted. This is not due to bad writing but to the fact that the proposal holds an unpopular opinion.

OOC: Yeah, it's doomed if that clause stays. Whether or not the 3% figure is true or not is irrevelent as proving it is a RL violation, as the clause itself may be. Remove it, and the chance of success increases.

Otherwise, meh, it's getting better..
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Petrolheadia
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Postby Petrolheadia » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:48 am

True Refuge wrote:IC: While I applaud the Ambassador for their efforts, we have no doubt this proposal will fail when submitted. This is not due to bad writing but to the fact that the proposal holds an unpopular opinion.

OOC: Yeah, it's doomed if that clause stays. Whether or not the 3% figure is true or not is irrevelent as proving it is a RL violation, as the clause itself may be. Remove it, and the chance of success increases.

Otherwise, meh, it's getting better..


All right. Fixed.
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Postby Povinksi » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:09 pm

OOC: Petrolhedia, where did you learn that humans have a 3% chance for global warming?
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Postby Petrolheadia » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:09 pm

Povinksi wrote:OOC: Petrolhedia, where did you learn that humans have a 3% chance for global warming?


It was a quote from a book by a guy who said that it is mostly natural.
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John Turner
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Postby John Turner » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:22 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Povinksi wrote:OOC: Petrolhedia, where did you learn that humans have a 3% chance for global warming?


It was a quote from a book by a guy who said that it is mostly natural.


I'm sorry. Humans have a 3% chance for global warming? And here I though global warming affected planets.
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Postby Tinfect » Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:25 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Povinksi wrote:OOC: Petrolhedia, where did you learn that humans have a 3% chance for global warming?


It was a quote from a book by a guy who said that it is mostly natural.


OOC:
From a book by a guy.
Clearly the best place to get information on climate science.
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True Refuge
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Postby True Refuge » Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:58 pm

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Tinfect wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:
It was a quote from a book by a guy who said that it is mostly natural.


OOC:
From a book by a guy.
Clearly the best place to get information on climate science.


OOC: Is he just going to ignore all the scientific studies, just for a book by a guy?
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John Turner
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Postby John Turner » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:04 am

Tinfect wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:
It was a quote from a book by a guy who said that it is mostly natural.


OOC:
From a book by a guy.
Clearly the best place to get information on climate science.


It could have been a poem from a gal. :p
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:20 am

John Turner wrote:
Tinfect wrote:
OOC:
From a book by a guy.
Clearly the best place to get information on climate science.


It could have been a poem from a gal. :p

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Postby Povinksi » Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:21 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Povinksi wrote:OOC: Petrolhedia, where did you learn that humans have a 3% chance for global warming?


It was a quote from a book by a guy who said that it is mostly natural.

I cracked up when I read this. Who was this "guy"?
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:38 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Povinksi wrote:OOC: Petrolhedia, where did you learn that humans have a 3% chance for global warming?


It was a quote from a book by a guy who said that it is mostly natural.


Oh, this is hilarious, totally worth the headache of reading through this..."drafting" :lol:

And nice reveal on your true intentions.
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Postby United industrial » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:01 pm

i wish i had seen this bill earlier i would have loved to have given my imput on this issue because this is an important issue for me and my nation because as an industrialist based nation I know a little something about cutting costs and increasing sales margins to make profit. Those that say this does not need to be an issue voted on the floor of the WA most not know the importance of profit margins and maintaining productivity. This bill however goes against the environetalist wing of the WA that i have spent months fighting against, but unfortunley there are not enough of me to oppose such a big faction so thank you for this. That being said i don't think this bill deregulates enough i would go for a complete repeal personally myself but this is a greta stepping stone for that in the future because let me tell you my automobile industry has suffered because of bill like this that expect nations to cannibalize there industry and profits just to prevent some minor increase in CO2 emissions. So i fully support this resolution and offer my services to help it get passed on the floor.

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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:56 pm

United industrial wrote:i wish i had seen this bill earlier i would have loved to have given my imput on this issue because this is an important issue for me and my nation because as an industrialist based nation I know a little something about cutting costs and increasing sales margins to make profit. Those that say this does not need to be an issue voted on the floor of the WA most not know the importance of profit margins and maintaining productivity. This bill however goes against the environetalist wing of the WA that i have spent months fighting against, but unfortunley there are not enough of me to oppose such a big faction so thank you for this. That being said i don't think this bill deregulates enough i would go for a complete repeal personally myself but this is a greta stepping stone for that in the future because let me tell you my automobile industry has suffered because of bill like this that expect nations to cannibalize there industry and profits just to prevent some minor increase in CO2 emissions. So i fully support this resolution and offer my services to help it get passed on the floor.


1. Learn some grammar.
2. I wasn't thinking about corporate profits, but the balance between petrolhead and enviromentalist happiness.
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Nazism, edgism, dogmatic statements, most of Abrahamic-derived morality (esp. as law), welfare for those not in need.
We are not Albania and I am not Albanian, FFS!
Male, gearhead, classic rock fan, gamer, agnostic.
Not sure if left-libertarian, ex-libertarian or without a damn clue.
Where you can talk about cars!
"They're always saying I'm a Capitalist pig. I suppose I am, but, ah...it ah...it's good for my drumming, I think." - Keith Moon,
If a Porsche owner treats it like a bicycle, he's a gentleman. And if he prays to it, he's simply a moron. - Jan Nowicki.

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John Turner
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Founded: Aug 21, 2015
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Postby John Turner » Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:15 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
United industrial wrote:
i wish i had seen this bill earlier i would have loved to have given my imput on this issue because this is an important issue for me and my nation because as an industrialist based nation I know a little something about cutting costs and increasing sales margins to make profit. Those that say this does not need to be an issue voted on the floor of the WA most not know the importance of profit margins and maintaining productivity. This bill however goes against the environetalist wing of the WA that i have spent months fighting against, but unfortunley there are not enough of me to oppose such a big faction so thank you for this. That being said i don't think this bill deregulates enough i would go for a complete repeal personally myself but this is a greta stepping stone for that in the future because let me tell you my automobile industry has suffered because of bill like this that expect nations to cannibalize there industry and profits just to prevent some minor increase in CO2 emissions. So i fully support this resolution and offer my services to help it get passed on the floor.


1. Learn some grammar.


Learn to take some advice. This crap isn't worth the toilet paper needed to wipe it. You can waste your time until you are an old man, and this still won't pass.
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