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Lons
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Postby Lons » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:10 am

The Lonish WA agency would like to point the Traxsmuhsian delegation towards the recently passed act GAR 338 - which defines sapience for the sense of the WA, and, additionally, guarantees rights by all means equal to human rights to beings found sapient. While the chickens in Traxsmuh might be found sapient according to this resolution, and therefore, rights ascribed to humans apply to them as well, the chickens used for meat processing in Lons do not appear to conform to these requirements.

OOC: Well this is silly- next up we'll have a proposal legalizing (or illegalizing, same difference) cock magic.

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Postby Flibbleites » Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:13 pm

*Sven runs into the room brandishing a cleaver*

Cheeckee! Bork Bork Bork!

*Sven starts chasing the chickens around the room*

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Imperium Anglorum
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:18 pm

Flibbleites wrote:Bob Flibble's personal chef

Chef Excellence

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The Pkunk Alliance
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Postby The Pkunk Alliance » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:23 pm

Lons wrote:The Lonish WA agency would like to point the Traxsmuhsian delegation towards the recently passed act GAR 338 - which defines sapience for the sense of the WA, and, additionally, guarantees rights by all means equal to human rights to beings found sapient. While the chickens in Traxsmuh might be found sapient according to this resolution, and therefore, rights ascribed to humans apply to them as well, the chickens used for meat processing in Lons do not appear to conform to these requirements.

OOC: Well this is silly- next up we'll have a proposal legalizing (or illegalizing, same difference) cock magic.


Although we Pkunk find cannibalism among sapient species very unnerving, and we are overjoyed upon encountering another sapient avian species, our representative, yours truly, would like to second the declaration of the representative from Lons.

Although the chickens of Paleoconservative Traxmuhs may very well be sapient, they are likely a subspecies of the greater Chicken species "Gallus Gallus." Gallus gallus sapiens (you have not provided your species designation so the human one that insists that they're sapient will have to do) would be protected under Protection of Sapient Rights. Other variants of Gallus gallus, including the popular foodsource Gallus gallus domesticus, have not demonstrated sapience, not even on an individual level. Although we sympathize with your desire not to get eaten, your existence as a sapient (sub)species would make it illegal to eat you.

Your non-sapient brethren, however, would be part of the natural ecosystem. There is no shame in that.

OOC: Dig in. I figured another non-human, avian perspective would help.
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Postby Paleoconservative Traxsmuhs » Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:32 am

Max Allison stands up again, and squawks loudly through the room while holding the pictures of the previously show images:

"I say again: I have irrefutable proof that our specie is sapient and worthy of protection against the gallinocaust! Ban chicken meat!"
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:36 am

Paleoconservative Traxsmuhs wrote:Max Allison stands up again, and squawks loudly through the room while holding the pictures of the previously show images:

"I say again: I have irrefutable proof that our specie is sapient and worthy of protection against the gallinocaust! Ban chicken meat!"

Parsons: (bored) Where is this irrefutable proof? I bet I can make holes in it with my service revolver. (holds up Webley Mk IV)

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:30 pm

Apart from the fact it's a horrible idea for a resolution, isn't an international issue, is very poorly laid out and very vauge, banning chicken meat in all forms would also restrict cloned chicken meat, printed chicken meat and no doubt other synthetic foodstuffs.

So.....Opposed.
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An Obvious Cow
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Postby An Obvious Cow » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:44 pm

We will support this so long as we can get a rider on this bill as follows:

"Defines 'Chicken Meat' as chicken meat, especially any meat from a cow."

The underlining is just a suggestion, but the rest is necessary for our support. We can promise to deliver our vote plus at least one or two more nations we met at the bus stop.

Thank you for your time.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:45 pm

An Obvious Cow wrote:We will support this so long as we can get a rider on this bill as follows:

"Defines 'Chicken Meat' as chicken meat, especially any meat from a cow."

The underlining is just a suggestion, but the rest is necessary for our support. We can promise to deliver our vote plus at least one or two more nations we met at the bus stop.

Thank you for your time.

We will only support this resolution if the 'cow' spoken of is replaced with 'housecat'.

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An Obvious Cow
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Postby An Obvious Cow » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:52 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
An Obvious Cow wrote:We will support this so long as we can get a rider on this bill as follows:

"Defines 'Chicken Meat' as chicken meat, especially any meat from a cow."

The underlining is just a suggestion, but the rest is necessary for our support. We can promise to deliver our vote plus at least one or two more nations we met at the bus stop.

Thank you for your time.

We will only support this resolution if the 'cow' spoken of is replaced with 'housecat'.

We propose a compromise as follows:

"Defines 'Chicken Meat' as chicken meat, especially any meat from a cow, but also possibly the meat of a housecat - though the thought of either of those things is highly depressing so why don't we just have a nice bit of grass... er feed... er.... salad?"
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Postby Sobaira » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:18 pm

An Obvious Cow wrote:We will support this so long as we can get a rider on this bill as follows:

"Defines 'Chicken Meat' as chicken meat, especially any meat from a cow."

The underlining is just a suggestion, but the rest is necessary for our support. We can promise to deliver our vote plus at least one or two more nations we met at the bus stop.

Thank you for your time.


OOC: And here I thought that cows wanted us to eat more chicken.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:35 pm

Majority Leader Ulysses Kant encourages all World Assembly ambassadors to join him in a fine day of hunting. We will be pursuing all varieties of quarry, such as quail, goose, and CHICKEN.
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Postby Mundiferrum » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:48 am

Wallenburg wrote:Majority Leader Ulysses Kant encourages all World Assembly ambassadors to join him in a fine day of hunting. We will be pursuing all varieties of quarry, such as quail, goose, and CHICKEN.

Rather stone cold, methinks, to encourage such foul business right in this discussion thread -- and no pardons for the puns, please.
We've decided to vote FOR this resolution, in case it ever comes to vote. Our economists have found that if this were to take into effect, our duck, pigeon, and cat businesses would be all poof-psheww, like a Millenium Falcon going into hyperspace.

Imperium Anglorum wrote:We will only support this resolution if the 'cow' spoken of is replaced with 'housecat'.

TO RIMBAUD'S PROSE WITH THAT, SON
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Postby The imperial court of colon » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:39 am

I like chicken, so do the people in my nation, all our is raised locally and one can own up to five, please don't take away my nations main food and companionship source!

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Postby Wrapper » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:42 am

The imperial court of colon wrote:I like chicken, so do the people in my nation, all our is raised locally and one can own up to five, please don't take away my nations main food and companionship source!

Wait wait wait, are you... are you trying to say... that you... and your nation's chickens... ummm...

:blink: :eyebrow:

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Postby Mundiferrum » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:59 am

Wrapper wrote:
The imperial court of colon wrote:I like chicken, so do the people in my nation, all our is raised locally and one can own up to five, please don't take away my nations main food and companionship source!

Wait wait wait, are you... are you trying to say... that you... and your nation's chickens... ummm...

:blink: :eyebrow:

Good her-wad, I don't think they're human.
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"Call me Gravey. Only my really close friends call me Marcus, and I don't think we're that close yet. Maybe."
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Technological level: FUTURE TECH. We also have MAGICAL TECH, and a lot of the people here still play with MEDIEVAL TECH and PRESENT TECH. We're cool that way.

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Postby PFQ Recruiting Office » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:02 am

I LOVE CHICKEN! DO NOT BAN CHICKEN MEAT! CLUCK NO!
The imperial court of colon wrote:I like chicken, so do the people in my nation, all our is raised locally and one can own up to five, please don't take away my nations main food and companionship source!

A new thing has been invented: chicken beastiality.
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:07 am

PFQ Recruiting Office wrote:I LOVE CHICKEN! DO NOT BAN CHICKEN MEAT! CLUCK NO!
The imperial court of colon wrote:I like chicken, so do the people in my nation, all our is raised locally and one can own up to five, please don't take away my nations main food and companionship source!

A new thing has been invented: chicken beastiality.


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