NATION

PASSWORD

[PASSED] Preserving Antimicrobials

A carefully preserved record of the most notable World Assembly debates.

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Imperium Anglorum
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 12659
Founded: Aug 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:20 pm

I love how I've got CDSP, Defwa, and JPT saying it doesn't do enough and Murcia [and Anozia] saying it does too much.
Last edited by Imperium Anglorum on Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Author: 1 SC and 56+ GA resolutions
Maintainer: GA Passed Resolutions
Developer: Communiqué and InfoEurope
GenSec (24 Dec 2021 –); posts not official unless so indicated
Delegate for Europe
Elsie Mortimer Wellesley
Ideological Bulwark 285, WALL delegate
Twice-commended toxic villainous globalist kittehs

User avatar
The Candy Of Bottles
Diplomat
 
Posts: 634
Founded: Jan 01, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby The Candy Of Bottles » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:42 pm

The Candy Of Bottles casts its vote YEA and is pleased to see this passing by 77% to 23%, Including a delegate vote from Mousebumples.
Nation May also be called Ebsas Shomad.
WA Delegate: Tislam Timnärstëlmith (Tislam Taperedtresses)
Operates on EST/EDT
1.) Ignore them, they want attention. Giving it to them will only encourage them.
2.) Keep a backup region or two handy, with a password in place, in case you are raided. You can move there if needed.

User avatar
Anozia
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 50
Founded: Oct 10, 2010
Democratic Socialists

Postby Anozia » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:55 pm

Voting against this resolution because of the lack of something in clause 3 that would be reasonable for the poorest nations (even clause 4 may be difficult).
Poor nations may be forced into taking measures that are an issue for others (like choosing the most polluting solution for short term best productivity), and adding more rules that would make such a nation a pariah can only result as having it cut from the international community while accumulating hazards until they are dangerous for everybody.
Poor nations cannot be ignored like that.

User avatar
Brightharpia
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 4
Founded: Feb 02, 2011
Ex-Nation

Antimicrobials

Postby Brightharpia » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:13 pm

1) What are antimicrobials defined as?

2) What is the ultimate goal of this resolution?

Brightharpia

User avatar
Jean Pierre Trudeau
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1158
Founded: Nov 20, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:48 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:I love how I've got CDSP, Defwa, and JPT saying it doesn't do enough and Murcia [and Anozia] saying it does too much.


And if you notice, the three of us that are correct have been here for a while. Just saying.....
Jean Pierre Trudeau
Chancellor, United Federation of Canada,
Premier, The North American Union
World Assembly Resolution Author

Socialism is NOT Communism.

User avatar
Defwa
Minister
 
Posts: 2598
Founded: Feb 11, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Defwa » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:05 pm

And there are a few here that think that turning on the lights constitutes the WA doing "too much"
__________Federated City States of ____________________Defwa__________
Federation Head High Wizard of Dal Angela Landfree
Ambassadorial Delegate Maestre Wizard Mikyal la Vert

President and World Assembly Delegate of the Democratic Socialist Assembly
Defwa offers assistance with humanitarian aid, civilian evacuation, arbitration, negotiation, and human rights violation monitoring.

User avatar
Mundiferrum
Diplomat
 
Posts: 830
Founded: Apr 07, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Mundiferrum » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:52 am

I agree on the "this doesn't do much" argument, but we're still voting FOR, mostly for the good feelings. A repeal and replace for a stiffer solution would be very, very welcome, though.

---

The World Assembly hereby:

Instructs the World Health Authority to create a mechanism of monitoring the spread of antimicrobial resistance in all member nations and international zones or borders as well as publish a report on a periodic basis to inform about the status and prevalence of such resistance; - Sure.

Establishes an ‘Antimicrobial Resistance Workgroup’ inside the World Health Authority to coordinate between nations on this topic and inform member nations about relevant consequences of possible public health policies; - Sure, although this sort of makes the earlier redundant.

Mandates immediate action to be taken to lower infection rates in all places of treatment as well as public and private areas to improve public health and lower the need of chemical therapies, actions which may include: - Meaning I could use just one of these things, and be clear. Also, a bit too broad -- I could just tell everyone to stay in their homes forever, and that could work.

education of medical practitioners on the correct usage of antimicrobials, - er....this is sort of redundant? Medical practitioners probably know this already; it's everyone else who needs educating.

educational literature on the necessity of completing a full course of antimicrobials, - we could make them, but not distribute them. And the literature could be total crap; it could be a poster on a bathroom or something, and it'd fit. Weak.

severely limiting the amount of antimicrobial substances exposed to livestock, and - makes sense. Why not expand this to humans (or other creatures to be so infected)? Limit the whole distribution thing -- I feel like that could be added without being too micro-managey. And the

large investments in infection control; - Drivel.

Recommends that nations keep detailed statistics to monitor the prevalence and spread of resistant microbes; - Sure.

Encourages development of new antibiotics through government-sponsored contests and grants to stay ahead of evolving resistance to already widespread chemical therapies for infection. - Sure.
MARCVSGRAVELLIVSCISTERNAEMAGNORATOR-ORATORMVNDIFERRIADCONCILIVMMNDVM
Marcus Gravellius Cisternae Magnorator, Mundiferri Representative to the World Assembly
"Call me Gravey. Only my really close friends call me Marcus, and I don't think we're that close yet. Maybe."
No, we are not a nation of cat people. We're all humans (and a few annoying gnomes) here. The cat's just there because our king is such a genius, he saw that it would be a good military strategy to have a distractingly cute flag, to blind our enemies to (our) victory!
Technological level: FUTURE TECH. We also have MAGICAL TECH, and a lot of the people here still play with MEDIEVAL TECH and PRESENT TECH. We're cool that way.

User avatar
Dibeg
Diplomat
 
Posts: 796
Founded: Jan 06, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Dibeg » Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:08 am

I must congratulate the delegate from Imperium Anglorum on his work, he has created a very large margin in favor of passing the resolution, with a few notable delegate votes. I also note the lack of inactivity on this thread, surely a sign that those naysayers do not have enough base to their arguments to voice them. Good work!
The Empire of Dibeg

Dibeg is a GA Mentor and former Justice in The Western Isles.
Dibeg's WA Nation is Terravermelho

User avatar
Losthaven
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 393
Founded: Dec 31, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Losthaven » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:26 am

The people of Losthaven already have one of the best healthcare systems in the world. We don't require this law and already have policies that far exceed the provisions of this act.

Our legal department found nothing particularly objectionable here, and desiring to help people living in less-enlightened places, we cast our vote FOR this proposal.

Sincerely;
Yanaria Lanham-Byars; Esteemed Representative and Voice of the People of Losthaven
Once a great nation, a true superpower; now just watching the world go by

User avatar
Gestaria
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 57
Founded: Jun 17, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Gestaria » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:48 am

I do agree. Very much. My only question is how will you get the fundings for this? This would be extremely expensive. There is no possible way you find enough money unless you saved up for thirty years or so. This much to costly at this state of time.

User avatar
Blaccakre
Attaché
 
Posts: 87
Founded: Apr 14, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Blaccakre » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:52 am

Gestaria wrote:I do agree. Very much. My only question is how will you get the fundings for this? This would be extremely expensive. There is no possible way you find enough money unless you saved up for thirty years or so. This much to costly at this state of time.

This will be paid for the same way all WA programs are paid for. Officials will shakedown little old ladies at bus stops for the change in their purse, rob babies of their first communion jewelry, and - if need be - pass phony checks drawn on the accounts of your friends and relatives. You know, big government.
The Glorious, Unparalleled, Doubleplusgood Kingdom of Blaccakre
"There is no justice, only the Law."

Any effort by World Assembly Census experts to label our glorious nation as "corrupt," or to claim that we have "short average lifespans" and "ignorant citizens," shall be treated as belligerent propaganda and will result in severe reprisal.

User avatar
Caracasus
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7918
Founded: Apr 23, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Caracasus » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:10 am

We were under the impression that the WA got its funds from numerous cake stall sales and raffles.

Regardless, money as such shouldn't really be a reason for dismissing this. It strikes us as no less impractical as many other passed resolutions.
As an editor I seam to spend an awful lot of thyme going threw issues and checking that they're no oblivious errars. Its a tough job but someone's got too do it!



Issues editor, not a moderator.

User avatar
United West Afrika
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 49
Founded: Jun 30, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby United West Afrika » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:11 am

This resolution will obviously be used as an avenue for the white nations to further influence our country and force our people into a state of dependency. We wholeheartedly reject this backhanded attempt to give imperialists free reign within our villages and cities.

User avatar
Defwa
Minister
 
Posts: 2598
Founded: Feb 11, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Defwa » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:37 am

United West Afrika wrote:This resolution will obviously be used as an avenue for the white nations to further influence our country and force our people into a state of dependency. We wholeheartedly reject this backhanded attempt to give imperialists free reign within our villages and cities.

Wut
__________Federated City States of ____________________Defwa__________
Federation Head High Wizard of Dal Angela Landfree
Ambassadorial Delegate Maestre Wizard Mikyal la Vert

President and World Assembly Delegate of the Democratic Socialist Assembly
Defwa offers assistance with humanitarian aid, civilian evacuation, arbitration, negotiation, and human rights violation monitoring.

User avatar
Separatist Peoples
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 16989
Founded: Feb 17, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:37 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:I love how I've got CDSP, Defwa, and JPT saying it doesn't do enough and Murcia [and Anozia] saying it does too much.

OOC: different strokes and all. It's not bad, it could just benefit from some more teeth.

His Worshipfulness, the Most Unscrupulous, Plainly Deceitful, Dissembling, Strategicly Calculating Lord GA Secretariat, Authority on All Existence, Arbiter of Right, Toxic Globalist Dog, Dark Psychic Vampire, and Chief Populist Elitist!
Separatist Peoples should RESIGN!

User avatar
Caracasus
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7918
Founded: Apr 23, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Caracasus » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:17 am

Could those teeth be included in a new resolution at all?
As an editor I seam to spend an awful lot of thyme going threw issues and checking that they're no oblivious errars. Its a tough job but someone's got too do it!



Issues editor, not a moderator.

User avatar
The Islamic Nazi Empire
Civilian
 
Posts: 1
Founded: Jul 03, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby The Islamic Nazi Empire » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:10 am

Please do not do this. I need to infect all the jews and black people in my country with disease.

User avatar
Imperium Anglorum
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 12659
Founded: Aug 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Jul 03, 2015 6:47 am

The Islamic Nazi Empire wrote:Please do not do this. I need to infect all the jews and black people in my country with disease.

Wow. That was a fast ban.

Author: 1 SC and 56+ GA resolutions
Maintainer: GA Passed Resolutions
Developer: Communiqué and InfoEurope
GenSec (24 Dec 2021 –); posts not official unless so indicated
Delegate for Europe
Elsie Mortimer Wellesley
Ideological Bulwark 285, WALL delegate
Twice-commended toxic villainous globalist kittehs

User avatar
United West Afrika
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 49
Founded: Jun 30, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby United West Afrika » Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:32 am

Defwa wrote:
United West Afrika wrote:This resolution will obviously be used as an avenue for the white nations to further influence our country and force our people into a state of dependency. We wholeheartedly reject this backhanded attempt to give imperialists free reign within our villages and cities.

Wut

Everyone knows your so called "doctors" create the diseases you're supposedly combating. Whenever there is a plague look around and you're sure to find Western doctors poking people with needles!
From the Desk of:
General Butt Naked
Warlord of Liberia, Representative to the World Assembly for United West Afrika

User avatar
Separatist Peoples
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 16989
Founded: Feb 17, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:12 pm

United West Afrika wrote:
Defwa wrote:Wut

Everyone knows your so called "doctors" create the diseases you're supposedly combating. Whenever there is a plague look around and you're sure to find Western doctors poking people with needles!

"Yes, generally because they can, and often do, stop the plague. Or at least make it way less terrible."

His Worshipfulness, the Most Unscrupulous, Plainly Deceitful, Dissembling, Strategicly Calculating Lord GA Secretariat, Authority on All Existence, Arbiter of Right, Toxic Globalist Dog, Dark Psychic Vampire, and Chief Populist Elitist!
Separatist Peoples should RESIGN!

User avatar
Imperium Anglorum
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 12659
Founded: Aug 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:41 pm

Image
Preserving Antimicrobials was passed 10,424 votes to 1,865.

The Excellent Permanent Representative to the World Assembly for Imperium Anglorum would like to thank all those who voted for or against our resolution. It is an honour to work with all of you, esteemed colleagues.

Author: 1 SC and 56+ GA resolutions
Maintainer: GA Passed Resolutions
Developer: Communiqué and InfoEurope
GenSec (24 Dec 2021 –); posts not official unless so indicated
Delegate for Europe
Elsie Mortimer Wellesley
Ideological Bulwark 285, WALL delegate
Twice-commended toxic villainous globalist kittehs

Previous

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to WA Archives

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users

Advertisement

Remove ads