[Early draft] Reproductive Licenses

[Old Hope]

Concerned about parents that are unable to provide care for a child socially,
Wanting to protect children from neglect resulting from unprepared parents
Further concerned about unwanted pregnancies
the World Assembly
mandates member states to make a mandatory licence system for sexual acts
mandates member states to give a non-reproductive sexual act license to everyone who and only who
1.has sufficient knowledge about reproduction and how to avoid unwanted reproduction
2.is mentally competent to understand the social aspect of sexual acts
mandates member states to give a reproductive license who
1.has sufficient knowledge about how to raise offspring
2.is not threatening the offspring with an addiction harmful for the unborn in pregnancy
Mandates member states to make non-reproductive sexual acts legal only between those who have a non-reproductive sexual act license
Mandates member states to make reproduction legal only between those who have a reproductive licence

Biggest concerns right now:
1.Prone to abuse.
2.Category might be Moral Decency, but we are not sure about that.
Update:Since most nations are not supportive, and the abuse problem seems to be unavoidable, we will put this at hold. We might, however, consider educational legislation that might have more support. And less negative effects.

[Grays Harbor]

There is no frelling way we will ever support WA issued licenses for sex and/or reproduction. Or licenses issued by anybody for that matter. Never.

[Three Weasels]

Oh good! Let's make more bureaucracy MANDATORY! Yay for redtape, bureaucracy, paperwork... Oh. And let's not forget the inevitable fee that is often associated with bureaucracy and government issued licenses.

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*sighs*

For the love of the most benevolent meadow keeper... why? This is utterly illogical. The logical response the issue of unwanted pregnancies, besides, the legalization of abortion, is to mandate sexual education. This education would include information on safe sexual practices, the consequences of unprotected sex, the right to consent/withhold consent, etc.

[Defwa]

So this will cut down on unwanted pregnancies how? What do we do when someone violates the law and has a baby?

[Ainocra]

I would violate this proposal were it law. On a completely unrelated note I'll be busy violating my new interns later tonight.

[Three Weasels]

So this will cut down on unwanted pregnancies how? What do we do when someone violates the law and has a baby?

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Virgin births! So, if the off-spring bearing sex of a species randomly becomes pregnant without any outside interference...? Or... what if it's a species that reproduces asexually? How would that be regulated?

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

This is a great method of ensuring all WA nations become the People's Republic of China.

The logical response the issue of unwanted pregnancies, besides, the legalization of abortion, is to mandate sexual education.

Funny how you go straight to abortion and ignore standard contraception that would negate the need for it.

[Three Weasels]

The logical response the issue of unwanted pregnancies, besides, the legalization of abortion, is to mandate sexual education.

Funny how you go straight to abortion and ignore standard contraception that would negate the need for it.

We figured it was implied with the suggestion for sexual education, as it would likely include (if the WA introduced relevant legislation on the issue) a contraception mandate.

[Shazbotdom]

"This has to be the WORST piece of legislation that we have ever seen. And that is saying something"

Under-Secretary to the WA Ambassador

[Caracasus]

mandates member states to give a non-reproductive sexual act license to everyone who and only who
1.has sufficient knowledge about reproduction and how to avoid unwanted reproduction
2.is mentally competent to understand the social aspect of sexual acts

Well, to begin with you've essentially ensured that anyone with a severe enough learning disability cannot have sex - which would be an ethical minefield of itself. As for how one would enforce this, how would you? Caracasus would much rather have its police forces investigating serious crimes rather than peeking through people's curtains to make sure that no-one is being naughty (even though a disturbing number of our police officers would quite like to be able to do so...).

mandates member states to give a reproductive license who
1.has sufficient knowledge about how to raise offspring
2.is not threatening the offspring with an addiction harmful for the unborn in pregnancy

I acknowledge here that your heart is in the right place, but I question whether legislation is the best way to go about this. You want to ensure that children are not born to parents who may actively harm them due to their lack of knowledge. May we respectfully suggest you push for minimum standards of sex education instead, and provision of contraceptives free at point of access? I have had a team of advisers look over the relevant studies and it would appear that education and provision of contraceptives have a marked and beneficial impact on unwanted pregnancies. However, telling people they must not do something seems to only encourage it.

Mandates member states to make non-reproductive sexual acts legal only between those who have a non-reproductive sexual act license
Mandates member states to make reproduction legal only between those who have a reproductive licence

I am rather perplexed by this. What would happen, for example, between gay couples who wish to have sex and pass the criteria for a reproductive licence? What would happen if one party possessed a reproductive licence, but the other did not?

In short, I would be much more willing to support a proposal that promoted education and contraception than a proposal that bought in unworkable, impossible to police legislation. Think about what you want to achieve, and then start to consider how you would go about it. Legislation should only be applied if there is no other way to achieve your objectives.

[Separatist Peoples]

"Par for the course from the Old Hope ambassador. Just terrible. The C.D.S.P. sees no reason to prevent citizens from having sex with whatever consenting party they'd like, and conceive if they wish. Opposed."

[Herby]

Wait. You want everyone to get a fucking license in order to... oh, heh heh, I made a funny there, didn't I?

[The Novakian Empire]

Fuck no.

[Sierra Lyricalia]

Enthusiastically as we'd support forcing the Old Hope ambassador to obtain a license to have sexual relations, and to display said license to any prospective sexual partner upon commencement of negotiations, the possible abuses of anything remotely resembling such a system are too obvious, enormous, and easy to begin to recount here. Overpopulation is a problem that can be mostly assuaged by economic development, education, market and tax incentives, and miscellany that do not require fascism or medical atrocities to acheive; and we see no other possible reason why this would even be considered.

[Separatist Peoples]

"That the Old Hope delegation hasn't made any actual attempt to defend their draft, and that they seem to have a history of drafting incendiary proposals and immediately abandoning them, I have to wonder if their intention is to stir up ire for their own amusement, or if they genuinely expect ambassadors to go for these disasters-in-waiting."

[Imperium Anglorum]

"if they genuinely expect ambassadors to go for these disasters-in-waiting."

That'll require quite a lot of hope.

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

I particularly like this quote:

We could easily have written a better worded proposal within minutes.
The only difference between the usual submitted garbage and this is that this somehow got into queue.
The approving nations should look at this proposal again, feel ashamed, and drop their approval.

Yet the author comes back with this shit? I would suggest people just stop responding to this shit, and maybe the author will do us all a favor and quit or go away.

[Flibbleites]

"That the Old Hope delegation hasn't made any actual attempt to defend their draft, and that they seem to have a history of drafting incendiary proposals and immediately abandoning them, I have to wonder if their intention is to stir up ire for their own amusement, or if they genuinely expect ambassadors to go for these disasters-in-waiting."

Some might even go so far as to call that, Trolling.

[Separatist Peoples]

"That the Old Hope delegation hasn't made any actual attempt to defend their draft, and that they seem to have a history of drafting incendiary proposals and immediately abandoning them, I have to wonder if their intention is to stir up ire for their own amusement, or if they genuinely expect ambassadors to go for these disasters-in-waiting."

Some might even go so far as to call that, Trolling.

"Some might."

[The Eternal Kawaii]

Isn't this what marriages are for? At least, that's how it's written in Kawaiian family law.