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WA Violations? (OOC)

Postby Bubba Reb » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:00 am

If a nation is a member of the WA, can they roleplay their nations military killing refugees, and the medics, humanitarian aid personelle, and crews providing evacuation rescue efforts for a defeated country? Also can they attack peace keeping troops that are placing military/government officials accused of war crimes, under arrest to face trial in an international court?

I believe the WA has passed bills prohibiting such actions right?
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:11 am

Moderators don't police roleplay. So long as it's within site limits (PG-13, not spam, not plagiarised, etc.etc.) you can roleplay whatever you like.

You may get OOC accusations of godmoding from those who consider that WA rules on mandatory compliance prevent such things, but you can ignore such people - just as they can, and probably will, ignore you.

In truth, while roleplaying violation of WA laws can be interesting if done well, normally simply consists of saying "ner-ner I don't care" and everyone else roundly shrugging.

So in other words, what people think you should do is a narrower window than what you strictly can do.

Also, roleplaying out such things in detail belongs in a Diplomacy forum like NationStates or International Incidents, not the WA forum itself.
Bubba Reb wrote:If a nation is a member of the WA, can they roleplay their nations military killing refugees, and the medics, humanitarian aid personelle, and crews providing evacuation rescue efforts for a defeated country? Also can they attack peace keeping troops that are placing military/government officials accused of war crimes, under arrest to face trial in an international court?

I believe the WA has passed bills prohibiting such actions right?

For the most part, no. Some of those specific acts have been covered in passing by Refugee Protection and Medical Facilities Protection, but murdering civilians in general was legalised by Repeal "International Criminal Court".
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Postby Christian Democrats » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:13 am

Bubba Reb wrote:If a nation is a member of the WA, can they roleplay their nations military killing refugees, and the medics, humanitarian aid personelle, and crews providing evacuation rescue efforts for a defeated country? Also can they attack peace keeping troops that are placing military/government officials accused of war crimes, under arrest to face trial in an international court?

I believe the WA has passed bills prohibiting such actions right?

1. There's a Q&A thread in this forum: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=48437

2. GA resolutions do not impact the NationStates roleplay community. They're considered "binding" only in this forum. Even then, compliance is not enforced by moderators; but other players will start to ignore or chastise you if you blatantly ignore active legislation.
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Postby Bubba Reb » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:20 am

Thank you.

I'm seeing a LOT of such RP happening in a particular thread. The nation/s are WA members.

I was unclear as to weather they could RP those actions mand still remain WA membership.


I think this answers my question.

Thank you both for the replies.
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Postby Bubba Reb » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:24 am

Christian Democrats wrote:1. There's a Q&A thread in this forum: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=48437
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Thanks. Perhaps someone can relocate this to the proper location.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:03 am

It also helps that the WA forum doesn't ICly recognize the II or Diplomacy forum. In general, the WA only exists over there if the players want it to. When you Roleplay noncompliance within the WA forum, though, things get a little different.

As TDSR said, there's no rule governing Roleplay, but in the GA forum, most players consider resolutions binding and noncompliance to be godmodding. It's viewed as bad form in this forum, and outright noncompliance will get most nations entirely ignored, which is no fun for anybody. Creative noncompliance, however, which is noncompliance based on a known loophole or interesting interpretation of the law, is considered acceptable, as it's much more amusing. An example would be nations refusing to recognize any marriage through the state to circumvent Freedom of Marriage Act pre-repeal.

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Postby Krieg-Deathworld » Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:35 am

We've outlawed homosexuals and if found they are dragged out into the street and shot. We just don't mention it to those pesky WA inspectors. Civil Right's aren't a thing on Krieg.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:42 am

Krieg-Deathworld wrote:We've outlawed homosexuals and if found they are dragged out into the street and shot. We just don't mention it to those pesky WA inspectors. Civil Right's aren't a thing on Krieg.

This sort of stuff, for example, ensures that nobody takes their comments seriously during drafting. Fine in II, but not so much here.

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Postby Defwa » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:32 pm

What's the mod policy on godmoding back? For instance, if I were to point out that the people dragging out and shooting homosexuals are themselves gay and actually fake those murders in order to recruit those victims into a gay army, where their superior gay genes are the only thing compatible with rapid genetic engineering giving them all invulnerability and the power of flight?
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Postby Mousebumples » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:35 pm

Defwa wrote:What's the mod policy on building godmoding back? For instance, if I were to point out that the people dragging out and shooting homosexuals are themselves gay and actually fake those murders in order to recruit those victims into a gay army, where their superior gay genes are the only thing compatible with rapid genetic engineering giving them all invulnerability and the power of flight?

We don't police RP - and that include godmodding.

Players can "self-moderate" RP, so to speak. If you feel someone is godmodding, you can express your displeasure and/or refuse to RP with them in the future. If you are the OP of an RP thread (*note: GA proposal threads don't count as an RP thread) and you want to disinvite a player from your RP, we will enforce that by removing X player's posts from your RP - again, if requested by the OP.

But, that's more of an NS/II/P2TM question rather than a WA or GA question.
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Postby Defwa » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:38 pm

I see, that is very helpful.
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Postby Bubba Reb » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:56 pm

Yes indeed, very helpfull. Thanks Mouse!
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