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by Imperium Anglorum » Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:18 pm
by The Dark Star Republic » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:44 am
Christian Democrats wrote:This proposal could increase teenage pregnancy rates in countries where few minors have vaginal intercourse.
Christian Democrats wrote:This proposal could increase teenage pregnancy rates in countries where minors cannot readily access contraception or where they have access only to ineffective forms of birth control (sponges, 12% failure; male condoms, 18% failure; female condoms, 21% failure; withdrawal, 22% failure; calendar, 24% failure; spermicide, 28% failure). The most standard, effective form of birth control is oral contraception, which does not require any sort of special instruction in secondary schools (girls, take a pill daily).
Christian Democrats wrote:I'm entirely in character.
Sciongrad wrote:OOC: I know I don't have to tell you this, but I wouldn't be so deterred by a negative reaction from the forum regulars. There was uproar about Reproductive Freedoms on the forums, yet it passed by insane margins. I imagine among the general voters, this would be very popular. Unless the WA shifts its attitude towards issues like abortion and returns the choice over how to formulate policy on them to nations, then I think a resolution of this kind at some point must be pursued.
by The Dark Star Republic » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:29 am
Bananaistan wrote:The Dark Star Republic wrote:Permits nations to tailor the specifics of their curriculum to their particular national circumstances, and to devolve comprehensive sex education planning and provision to local authorities;
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Encourages nations to make arrangements for students not part of their state education systems to receive comprehensive sex education to a comparable level;
We support this proposal. However we are concerned with the above two clauses. Firstly, we would like the permits clause to be tightened to make it clear that nations must still comply with the requirements clause while "tailoring".
Secondly, we are concerned that the encourages clause effectively optionalises the entire proposal for any member nation with partially or entirely privatised education. Perhaps the clause could be restated to grant all students the right to the education outlined in clauses 1, 2 & 3 without regard to whether they are home-schooled, privately schooled or whatever? Or to achieve the same thing but in a rather blunt fashion, change the "encourages" to "requires"?
by Pharthan » Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:47 am
The Dark Star Republic wrote:OOC: I am willing to suspend my disbelief and accept a great many fantastical worlds exist within the world of NS, but I find it hard to believe there are any in which teenage boys aren't trying to stick their dicks into just about any open hole.
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by Christian Democrats » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:23 am
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
by Mundiferrum » Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:16 am
Pharthan wrote:The Dark Star Republic wrote:OOC: I am willing to suspend my disbelief and accept a great many fantastical worlds exist within the world of NS, but I find it hard to believe there are any in which teenage boys aren't trying to stick their dicks into just about any open hole.
OOC: If the NS world were all Westernized, this might be true. But NS world is much more culturally diverse than RL Earth. A super-religious nation, or a very controlled nation might be very strict on pre-marital intercourse to the point that such urges are genuinely suppressed; the desire will obviously exist, but that does not mean attempts at intercourse exist. Even in Western nations, many individuals stay chaste, by choice, until marriage. I still have coworkers who, quite intentionally, have remained chaste into their mid-twenties, and not for lack of opportunity. (Uniforms tend to be "chick magnets," especially in foreign countries. And New York City.)
Expanding upon the culture issue, this resolution could increase teen-pregnancy in some nations, reduce it in others, have no effect in some, et cetera. All nations are different.
I can see this resolution largely violating religious-rights in some nations, as well.
by The Dark Star Republic » Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:21 am
Mundiferrum wrote:I agree this is a bit too much: the GA doesn't really have to legislate about sex ed since it seems to be an all to, er, national issue
by Mundiferrum » Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:52 pm
The Dark Star Republic wrote:Mundiferrum wrote:I agree this is a bit too much: the GA doesn't really have to legislate about sex ed since it seems to be an all to, er, national issue
OOC: So, education about star charts and gun safety are international issues, but sex - a topic the WA has repeatedly legislated on - isn't?
The WA has decreed that all people have more or less absolute rights to sexual privacy, sexual autonomy, and reproductive freedom. Those people should at least be capable of understanding what those rights mean.
by Pharthan » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:03 pm
The Dark Star Republic wrote:OOC: So, education about star charts and gun safety are international issues, but sex - a topic the WA has repeatedly legislated on - isn't?
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by The Dark Star Republic » Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:26 am
Pharthan wrote:Education on STDs and Sexual Assault would be international, IMO.
by Pharthan » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:51 am
The Dark Star Republic wrote:Pharthan wrote:Education on STDs and Sexual Assault would be international, IMO.
OOC: So where's the cut-off? We can all come to any issue and say "not an international issue" or "this is an international issue", but without some sort of justification it's all a bit arbitrary. Far more people because of complications from pregnancy, illegal abortions, STDs, or sexual assaults, than do from nuclear powerplant meltdowns!
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by The Dark Star Republic » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:00 am
Pharthan wrote:If you start forcing people to teach kids about sex, that is something that in their culture they may not be ready for.
by Pharthan » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:10 am
The Dark Star Republic wrote:Pharthan wrote:If you start forcing people to teach kids about sex, that is something that in their culture they may not be ready for.
OOC: No one is "forced" to teach anything. If you don't want to become a sex ed teacher, don't.
And I am at a loss to explain how legalising sexual freedom doesn't create a cultural shock where teaching young people what sex is does.
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by The Dark Star Republic » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:41 am
Pharthan wrote:You're trying to justify your resolution based on previous resolutions.
by The Dark Star Republic » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:45 pm
by Mundiferrum » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:49 am
Pharthan wrote:The Dark Star Republic wrote:OOC: No one is "forced" to teach anything. If you don't want to become a sex ed teacher, don't.
And I am at a loss to explain how legalising sexual freedom doesn't create a cultural shock where teaching young people what sex is does.
OOC: The nation is forced to. Admittedly the resolution doesn't specify at what age thus must be taught. "Sexual maturity" is rather vague.
by Sierra Lyricalia » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:09 am
The Dark Star Republic wrote:...I find it incredibly difficult to conceive of why players want the WA to legalise incest and abortion but don't want people to be taught sex ed, but so it goes.
by Separatist Peoples » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:28 am
by The Dark Star Republic » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:29 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:this site is for 13 and over.
by Kryozerkia » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:11 pm
by The Dark Star Republic » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:19 pm
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