[Passed]Repeal and Replace GA#92

[Ainocra]

as it is now in queue it cannot be changed, and the information sharing clause is limited by national and subnational law so your government doesn't have to share anything it wants to protect.

[Defwa]

The section of which it states member nations are required to share information of all of their scientific discoveries and knowledge should be cancelled. For one, that would be a complete invasion of privacy, and I strongly uphold the idea of nations owning a little privacy. To add, information could fall into the wrong hands and cause international catastrophes. I do, however, believe that the amount of privacy should be limited to which certain information should and shouldn't be shared for the protection of nations from both the public and foreign and domestic enemies.

Sincerely,

-King BIL of Xtoshtia
-Issued March Twenty-Sixth, Two-Thousand and Fifteen

By my reading, you're not required to give up your nuclear secrets or super soldier program. It just says WASP will distribute already public scientific information

[Ainocra]

The section of which it states member nations are required to share information of all of their scientific discoveries and knowledge should be cancelled. For one, that would be a complete invasion of privacy, and I strongly uphold the idea of nations owning a little privacy. To add, information could fall into the wrong hands and cause international catastrophes. I do, however, believe that the amount of privacy should be limited to which certain information should and shouldn't be shared for the protection of nations from both the public and foreign and domestic enemies.

Sincerely,

-King BIL of Xtoshtia
-Issued March Twenty-Sixth, Two-Thousand and Fifteen

By my reading, you're not required to give up your nuclear secrets or super soldier program. It just says WASP will distribute already public scientific information

That is indeed correct

[Globus]

May you explain how this resolution differs from WAR#92: Cooperation in Science Act?

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

May you explain how this resolution differs from WAR#92: Cooperation in Science Act?

You mean that one that was just REPEALED by the same author? Did you even bother to read, or was it just easier to come in and run your mouth? Though so.

[Globus]

May you explain how this resolution differs from WAR#92: Cooperation in Science Act?

You mean that one that was just REPEALED by the same author? Did you even bother to read, or was it just easier to come in and run your mouth? Though so.

My mistake for using a slightly outdated database of resolutions. Thank you for informing me of the repeal, but I don't appreciate the tone in which the message was delivered. Running my mouth, no. Just asking a question to clarify my understanding.

Thanks.

[Separatist Peoples]

You mean that one that was just REPEALED by the same author? Did you even bother to read, or was it just easier to come in and run your mouth? Though so.

My mistake for using a slightly outdated database of resolutions. Thank you for informing me of the repeal, but I don't appreciate the tone in which the message was delivered. Running my mouth, no. Just asking a question to clarify my understanding.

Thanks.

"Don't take the Federation ambassador's comments too much to heart. He's all bark and only a little bit of bite. Very venomous, but still only a little actual bite."

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

(Image) You mean that one that was just REPEALED by the same author? Did you even bother to read, or was it just easier to come in and run your mouth? Though so.

My mistake for using a slightly outdated database of resolutions. Thank you for informing me of the repeal, but I don't appreciate the tone in which the message was delivered. Running my mouth, no. Just asking a question to clarify my understanding.

Thanks.

How in the name of Christ can it be outdated when we all have access to the same database?

[Globus]

My mistake for using a slightly outdated database of resolutions. Thank you for informing me of the repeal, but I don't appreciate the tone in which the message was delivered. Running my mouth, no. Just asking a question to clarify my understanding.

Thanks.

How in the name of Christ can it be outdated when we all have access to the same database?

I used this database.

[Kaboomlandia]

How in the name of Christ can it be outdated when we all have access to the same database?

I used this database.

In the OP of that database, Kenny clearly states that he updates it about once a month.

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

How in the name of Christ can it be outdated when we all have access to the same database?

I used this database.

May I suggest using the "official" one next time to avoid embarrassing snafus like this in the future?

[Ainocra]

I wish to thank everyone who has commented on this set of proposals.

[Vilatania]

I'm not sure how important this is to everyone but there is a typo at the very beginning of the resolution.

"we do hereby tasks the World Assembly"

[Ainocra]

OOC:
well it wont be the first one that passes with a typo

[Zarkanians]

I'm not willing to hand over information regarding my scientific advancements to nations that could potentially become my enemies within the next few weeks. If this bill comes into effect, I will be forced to censor my scientists even more heavily than previous attempts to spy on Zarkanian affairs have already caused me to. AGAINST.

[Ainocra]

I would invite the Ambassador to read the act a little more carefully.

a) To collect and archive copies of any and all publicly available scientific literature with the aim of preserving and protecting it for use now and in the future excepting only that which is illegal under extant WA law.
(b) Requires all WA members to cooperate with the WASP by supplying it with all data relevant to it's mandate within extant national and subnational law.

[Vilatania]

I would invite the Ambassador to read the act a little more carefully.

a) To collect and archive copies of any and all publicly available scientific literature with the aim of preserving and protecting it for use now and in the future excepting only that which is illegal under extant WA law.
(b) Requires all WA members to cooperate with the WASP by supplying it with all data relevant to it's mandate within extant national and subnational law.

The ambassador is likely concerned that the resolution will cause his government to have to increase their measures to prevent scientific research intended to NOT be public from becoming public.

However since the resolution is specifically about literature, he should have little to be concerned about unless their scientists are also writers.

[Losthaven]

I'm sure someone else brought this up already, but how is this not an illegal "committee only" proposal. I don't see how any of these provisions involve member nations doing anything. It's all about the WASP and what it may or may not do.

[Defwa]

Oh.

Yeah.

What about that?

[Imperium Anglorum]

Whoa. I think Losthaven might be right about that one... Not entirely convinced, but hold on a second...

[Vilatania]

4) Forbids the utilization of the WASP for the deliberate bypassing of intellectual property laws.

This seems to be the only part specifically pertaining to member nations.

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

I'm sure someone else brought this up already, but how is this not an illegal "committee only" proposal. I don't see how any of these provisions involve member nations doing anything. It's all about the WASP and what it may or may not do.

1) Hereby tasks the WASP with the following mandate;

(a) To collect and archive copies of any and all publicly available scientific literature with the aim of preserving and protecting it for use now and in the future excepting only that which is illegal under extant WA law.
(b) Requires all WA members to cooperate with the WASP by supplying it with all data relevant to it's mandate within extant national and subnational law.
(c) To disseminate to any citizen of any member nation of this assembly any of this literature upon request excepting only that which is illegal under extant national or sub national law.
(d) To provide an international forum for the free circulation of ideas. In order to accomplish this goal any new theorems and experimental data submitted to WASP shall be disseminated to all member nations for the purpose of unbiased peer review in order to facilitate the most up to date scientific record possible.
(e) To coordinate with the ULC in order to maintain multiple and redundant backup copies of this archive at various locations to prevent loss due to a disaster or other calamity.
(f) To work with the ULC to ensure that only relevant data necessary to the scientific process makes its way into the archive in order to prevent confusion and excess.

I sure see members needing to do something.

[The Dark Star Republic]

I'm sure someone else brought this up already, but how is this not an illegal "committee only" proposal. I don't see how any of these provisions involve member nations doing anything. It's all about the WASP and what it may or may not do.

1) Hereby tasks the WASP with the following mandate;

(a) To collect and archive copies of any and all publicly available scientific literature with the aim of preserving and protecting it for use now and in the future excepting only that which is illegal under extant WA law.
(b) Requires all WA members to cooperate with the WASP by supplying it with all data relevant to it's mandate within extant national and subnational law.
(c) To disseminate to any citizen of any member nation of this assembly any of this literature upon request excepting only that which is illegal under extant national or sub national law.
(d) To provide an international forum for the free circulation of ideas. In order to accomplish this goal any new theorems and experimental data submitted to WASP shall be disseminated to all member nations for the purpose of unbiased peer review in order to facilitate the most up to date scientific record possible.
(e) To coordinate with the ULC in order to maintain multiple and redundant backup copies of this archive at various locations to prevent loss due to a disaster or other calamity.
(f) To work with the ULC to ensure that only relevant data necessary to the scientific process makes its way into the archive in order to prevent confusion and excess.

I sure see members needing to do something.

4) Forbids the utilization of the WASP for the deliberate bypassing of intellectual property laws.

This seems to be the only part specifically pertaining to member nations.

Both of those clauses still depend on the committee, though: giving information to WASP, or not using WASP to violate IP laws.

[Losthaven]

1) Hereby tasks the WASP with the following mandate;

(b) Requires all WA members to cooperate with the WASP by supplying it with all data relevant to it's mandate within extant national and subnational law.

I sure see members needing to do something.

I don't think the rule against committee-only proposals can be avoided simply by requiring member nations to cooperate with the committee.

The rule says "Committees (tribunals, agencies, organizations, bodies etc) are designed to carry out specific duties related to the proposals. Committees are additions to Proposals; they shouldn't be all the Proposal does." (emphasis in original).

If the only provision relating to member nations is a requirement that they support/comply with/not lie to the committee, it still seems like the committee is all the proposal is doing.

The closest the WA has ever gotten to a committee-only proposal (until now) was WA Development Foundation, which had a provision about member nations "using loans" in such and such manner. That provision didn't save it. Instead, the author added a simple provision stating "In general, member nations are encouraged to provide debt relief to other member nations during times of national emergency and economic crisis." That provision was considered divorced enough from the committee so that the proposal did "something" other than create a committee. Though I was never really satisfied with that because it seems like in that case the "proposal" is an addition to the committee, and not the other way around like the rule says it should be.

This proposal is probably illegal, though it seems like we'll just have to accept that a typo-ed*, illegal proposal is going to make it on the books due to lack of vigilance. Unless the Secretariat can step in to Discard it.

*The one mentioned here, and also the one quoted by JPT above ("it's" = "it is"; should be "its" without the apostrophe).

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

I used this database.

May I suggest using the "official" one next time to avoid embarrassing snafus like this in the future?

Is browbeating a player to death for an honest mistake really necessary here? Jesus.