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[IDEA/INTEREST]Replacement of the World Assembly

Where WA members debate how to improve the world, one resolution at a time.

Should the WA be abolished?

Aye
14
25%
Nay
33
60%
Who Cares?
5
9%
What is the WA?
3
5%
 
Total votes : 55

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Everlyn
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[IDEA/INTEREST]Replacement of the World Assembly

Postby Everlyn » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:16 pm

I really would like to see a more... efficient and faster moving international body. Perhaps it's time to replace the WA with a new organization that runs on similar principles, but engineered for efficiency, speed, and convenience. I just wanted to run this through some WA members to get a general feel for the support of this idea.
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The Dark Star Republic
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:20 pm

The WA is not engineered for speed. It has thousands of members, hundreds of whom play actively, dozens of whom post on the forums. Perhaps "GA regulars" are a small group, but they are the tip of the WA iceberg.

If you find the pace too slow but like roleplaying international law, I would suggest starting a group or alliance, within your region or in the Diplomacy forums, where you will be able to move at the pace you desire. Changes to the WA are in all probability unlikely - and when they do happen, it won't be in discussion with players, but rather dumped on us without warning.

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Postby The Sheika » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:30 pm

The Dark Star Republic wrote:The WA is not engineered for speed. It has thousands of members, hundreds of whom play actively, dozens of whom post on the forums. Perhaps "GA regulars" are a small group, but they are the tip of the WA iceberg.

If you find the pace too slow but like roleplaying international law, I would suggest starting a group or alliance, within your region or in the Diplomacy forums, where you will be able to move at the pace you desire. Changes to the WA are in all probability unlikely - and when they do happen, it won't be in discussion with players, but rather dumped on us without warning.


That pretty much sums up anything that I was going to say.
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:08 am

Everlyn wrote:I really would like to see a more... efficient and faster moving international body.

i suspect that you could only have efficient or faster-moving, but not both.
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Ponaeamic
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Postby Ponaeamic » Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:32 pm

I agree with you 100% but the WA has been around for a very very very long time and it has always governed us, if we were to change it what would be the repercussions? These are important things to be considered. But remeber that I do fulley show my support for you.

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:16 pm

The WA has only been around since 2008 and hasn't always governed us. Before the WA there was the NSUN, which was pretty terrible for the first few years of its existence.

The Dark Star Republic wrote:Changes to the WA are in all probability unlikely - and when they do happen, it won't be in discussion with players, but rather dumped on us without warning.

In all fairness, the game staff did consult with players before the last big changes to the GA categories last year, and also consulted when they cooked up that horrid Repeal/Replace-combo idea a couple years back (which has thankfully been shelved). Hopefully this means they learned their lesson from the C&C debacle.
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Hyperboralia
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Postby Hyperboralia » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:49 pm

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:19 am

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Postby Hyperboralia » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:51 am

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Postby Defwa » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:17 am

Hyperboralia wrote:Sorry. It's a joke based on the name of the nation that posted above me; "Oh my God, they killed Kenny!" Look it up. It's fairly well known, and I knew that he, at least, would get it.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:39 am

The Flood wrote:"The Flood proposes we replace the World Assembly with the Catholic Church."

"Definitely, definitely write that as a proposal."

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Postby Braberbourg » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:21 am

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Panait
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Postby Panait » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:11 am

Everlyn wrote:I really would like to see a more... efficient and faster moving international body. Perhaps it's time to replace the WA with a new organization that runs on similar principles, but engineered for efficiency, speed, and convenience. I just wanted to run this through some WA members to get a general feel for the support of this idea.


"Perhaps you could propose an alternative to WA so that nations like us, who vote for change if that proposed change is clear, tangible and practical, would vote Aye instead."
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Defwa
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Postby Defwa » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:30 am

Panait wrote:
Everlyn wrote:I really would like to see a more... efficient and faster moving international body. Perhaps it's time to replace the WA with a new organization that runs on similar principles, but engineered for efficiency, speed, and convenience. I just wanted to run this through some WA members to get a general feel for the support of this idea.


"Perhaps you could propose an alternative to WA so that nations like us, who vote for change if that proposed change is clear, tangible and practical, would vote Aye instead."

I think thats actually even more illegal than what the author is suggesting.

OOC if you want a different WA because this one is too mainstream for you, of something, I would advise finding a region with an active government
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Postby Frustrated Franciscans » Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:55 pm

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Graknopia
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Postby Graknopia » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:52 pm

To be fair I have no idea if the GA actually does anything besides RP
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Postby Defwa » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:31 pm

Graknopia wrote:To be fair I have no idea if the GA actually does anything besides RP

Sometimes we make the stat wankers angry
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Postby Chester Pearson » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:17 pm

Graknopia wrote:To be fair I have no idea if the GA actually does anything besides RP


We actually put creativity to use unlike gameplayers....
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:39 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:The WA has only been around since 2008 and hasn't always governed us. Before the WA there was the NSUN, which was pretty terrible for the first few years of its existence.

The Dark Star Republic wrote:Changes to the WA are in all probability unlikely - and when they do happen, it won't be in discussion with players, but rather dumped on us without warning.

In all fairness, the game staff did consult with players before the last big changes to the GA categories last year, and also consulted when they cooked up that horrid Repeal/Replace-combo idea a couple years back (which has thankfully been shelved). Hopefully this means they learned their lesson from the C&C debacle.

If anything, they've learned that consulting the players is a terrible idea, because there will just be a never-ending shouting match based on personal rivalries, rather than a coherent debate on what's best for the game. ;)

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Postby Frustrated Franciscans » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:51 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:If anything, they've learned that consulting the players is a terrible idea, because there will just be a never-ending shouting match based on personal rivalries, rather than a coherent debate on what's best for the game. ;)


One third of the players (and by that I mean the active ones) don't know what the game is in the first place.
One third doesn't care.
The remaining third are totally opposed to what this game is and try their best to make the same something that it is not.
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Postby The Palentine » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:48 am

Frustrated Franciscans wrote:
Glen-Rhodes wrote:If anything, they've learned that consulting the players is a terrible idea, because there will just be a never-ending shouting match based on personal rivalries, rather than a coherent debate on what's best for the game. ;)


One third of the players (and by that I mean the active ones) don't know what the game is in the first place.
One third doesn't care.
The remaining third are totally opposed to what this game is and try their best to make the same something that it is not.


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