[Idea] Repeal Nuclear arms possesion act.

[Volkstaat]

The General assembly resolution #10

The Nuclear arms possesion act of 6 June 2008

This act should be repealed or at the very least reformed.

This act claims that its about uping the budgets of military and police of WA nations. However there is no mention of these budgets in the entire act.

This act gives a nation the right to choose to posses nuclear weapons or not.

We must repeal this act and deny any nation the option of choosing to have their own nuclear warheads.

Nuclear war is a self destruct button for humanity.
Any nation who chooses to posses nuclear weapons choose to endanger humanity.

If enough people agree i will set up a draft of my proposal to repeal this act for futher discussion at a later date witch will then follow the necesary procedures to eventualy go to vote.

Please comment and give your thoughts on the subject.

[Chester Pearson]

Super... Go ahead and repeal this all you want. The Nuclear Security Convention will still allow nations to possess nuclear weapons as well.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

It allows it, but it doesn't block the WA from revoking that right.

All the same, however, this will never pass. Repeals of NAPA are always doomed from the start and this is no exception. It doesn't even bother coming up with new arguments, or ones that even address the resolution's content. Just the same old drivel about how nukes are harmful to children and other living things, blah, blah, blah.

FYI: NAPA doesn't even protect your right to use nuclear weapons, just to possess them as a deterrent (check the title: Nuclear Arms Possession Act), so all of the repeal author's points about nuclear war being dangerous and destructive are entirely moot.

[Lexicor]

It allows it, but it doesn't block the WA from revoking that right.

All the same, however, this will never pass. Repeals of NAPA are always doomed from the start and this is no exception. It doesn't even bother coming up with new arguments, or ones that even address the resolution's content. Just the same old drivel about how nukes are harmful to children and other living things, blah, blah, blah.

FYI: NAPA doesn't even protect your right to use nuclear weapons, just to possess them as a deterrent (check the title: Nuclear Arms Possession Act), so all of the repeal author's points about nuclear war being dangerous and destructive are entirely moot.

But since the ICC was repealed civilians can be nuked, so its a bit of... a mess.. here... at the moment.

[District XIV]

Ambassador Vilay groans, "What is this? The *Vilay makes up a random number in his head* 1,489th attempt?"

[Lexicor]

Ambassador Vilay groans, "What is this? The *Vilay makes up a random number in his head* 1,489th attempt?"

The 1,489th attempt is the charm?

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

But since the ICC was repealed civilians can be nuked, so its a bit of... a mess.. here... at the moment.

What does that have to do with NAPA?

[Louisistan]

But since the ICC was repealed civilians can be nuked, so its a bit of... a mess.. here... at the moment.

What does that have to do with NAPA?

Nothing, people just won't stop bitching about it.

[Honor and Glory]

<Jibber Jabber>
Nuclear war is a self destruct button for humanity.
Any nation who chooses to posses nuclear weapons choose to endanger humanity.
<more Jibber Jabber>

"As both the Nuclear Arms Possession Act and Nuclear Security Convention stipulate that nations must do everything in their control to prevent nuclear arms from falling into the wrong hands I fail to see how repealing one of these would make "humanity" less likely to kill itself with Nuclear arms. If nations are already doing everything in their control to prevent "The Wrong Hands" from accessing Nuclear Weapons then how would repealing one of these make things safer?"

[District XIV]

Vilay prepares the red pen - grumbling over the plethora of poor grammar...

The General assembly resolution #10

The Nuclear arms possesion act of 6 June 2008

This act should be repealed or at the very least reformed.
All three of the above clauses are entirely unnecessary and pointless - remove them.
This act claims that its about uping the budgets of military and police of WA nations. However there is no mention of these budgets in the entire act.
'This act' indirectly raises the budgets of WA nations as obtaining more nuclear weapons would cost more - or 'raising the budget'.
This act gives a nation the right to choose to posses nuclear weapons or not.
And the demonym for the people of District XIV is Fourtese; anything else, Captain Obvious?
We must repeal this act and deny any nation the option of choosing to have their own nuclear warheads.
Oh good, legislating within a repeal, as if that doesn't violate any rules (it does).

Pssst! Read the rules!
Nuclear war is a self destruct button for humanity.
"Humanity"? What's this "humanity"? I'm kidding, but you have to realize that many nations within the World Assembly do not maintain a population of humans.
Any nation who chooses to posses nuclear weapons choose to endanger humanity.
Again, this 'human-centric' stuff.

Yes and no to your "they choose to endanger humanity" statement - you see, District XIV currently has two nuclear missiles. We have them for defense, incase any other nation dares step on our sovereign soil with the mindset of hostility; not because "[we] choose to endanger humanity."

[Araraukar]

But since the ICC was repealed civilians can be nuked, so its a bit of... a mess.. here... at the moment.

What does that have to do with NAPA?

OOC: I think it was an IC comment on this bit:

Just the same old drivel about how nukes are harmful to children and other living things, blah, blah, blah.

Since ICC repeal, it's not a war crime to nuke "children and other living things".

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

OK, so nothing? Carry on then.

[Chester Pearson]

What does that have to do with NAPA?

OOC: I think it was an IC comment on this bit:

Just the same old drivel about how nukes are harmful to children and other living things, blah, blah, blah.

Since ICC repeal, it's not a war crime to nuke "children and other living things".

It would have been had my resolution not been pulled twenty minutes before going to vote....

[Hakio]

The General assembly resolution #10

The Nuclear arms possesion act of 6 June 2008
Uh oh, not this crap again.
This act should be repealed or at the very least reformed.
You cannot reform an already passed resolution due to the law against amendments.
This act claims that its about uping the budgets of military and police of WA nations. However there is no mention of these budgets in the entire act.
First off "uping" is not a word, and secondly how can a proposal claim something it does not specifically state?
This act gives a nation the right to choose to posses nuclear weapons or not.
Correct, and I don't like nuclear warheads either. Our country outlawed them about 15 years ago.
We must repeal this act and deny any nation the option of choosing to have their own nuclear warheads.
You have forgotten to explain the reason for why this conclusion is justified, otherwise, this is a textbook non sequitur.
Nuclear war is a self destruct button for humanity.
Ah okay, now we get a reason. This is rather human-centric don't you think? I mean I love humans and everything but this Assembly comprises of millions of different and uniquely chemically wired sentient species, some of which are not harmed by radiation.
Any nation who chooses to posses nuclear weapons choose to endanger humanity.
No, because the human nations that are not in the World Assembly (the vast majority), would not be affected by the banning of nuclear weapons and thus could potentially nuke WA countries who are unable to defend themselves due to the ban you are supporting here. Furthermore, if this is supposed to be a repeal you a legislating within a repeal thus making this illegal.
If enough people agree i will set up a draft of my proposal to repeal this act for futher discussion at a later date witch will then follow the necesary procedures to eventualy go to vote.
Please comment and give your thoughts on the subject.[/quote]
This topic has been figuratively debated into the ground and everytime someone comes along and tries to repeal it they lose.

[Ainocra]

Fleet Marshal Enta snores one his desk, face down in a puddle of his own drool.
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[Volkstaat]

Wow thanks for clearing everything up, i geus i had my head in the clouds, i am fairly new to ns and wanted to make a diffrence thanks for all the responses!

[Ainocra]

welcome to the festering snakepit

[Bears Armed]

Wow thanks for clearing everything up, i geus i had my head in the clouds, i am fairly new to ns and wanted to make a diffrence thanks for all the responses!

At least you brought the draft here for consideration, first, instead of just submitting it straight off: That shows that you're wiser than some of the other newcomers we've had.

Stick around, watch how things are done, read the rules (there's a thread stickied at the top of this forum) and look at some of the passed resolutions (ditto), ask questions, and maybe in time you'll have another idea for a proposal and be able to produce a workable draft for that one instead.

*(sends over a gift basket of this nation's produce, including a large jar of high-quality honey and a large bottle of high-quality maple syrup as well as assorted fruits and nuts)*