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This is pretty good, burt add more. And let people use hormones. Its frowned upon, but let people use it. And also, dont punish people. How about instead people under this act dont buy that groups prodicts? You use hormones, dont follow our rules, you dont get the trade or consumers. Like sanctions.

Other than that good job. Also try calling it animal cruelity act and expand it to all ani
Als, all domestic ones that is.

The Peoples Federal Empire wrote:RESTRICTS

1)The use of all growth hormones, whether through injection or digestion

What does "restricts" mean? Also, find me a scientific study that shows that all hormones categorically harm all animals regardless of dosage.

The Peoples Federal Empire wrote:2) The environment that the animals live in must contain air-conditioning and heating, must have protection from the elements such as rain and snow, and all animals must have at least one foot of space.

Arbitrary. All animals need heat and AC? Really? Does a polar bear need protection from snow? From where did you pull out the "one foot of space" provision?

Against. I'm anti-animal abuse but I'm also anti-horribly-written WA proposals.

--The Executive-General of the Commonwealth of Lumeau

"I'm not convinced that non-sapient animal abuse is an international issue. Or even an issue. I'm wholly unconvinced that non-sapient animals have rights, honestly."

Growth hormones are an essential part to many nation's food supplies and not all do damage to the animal or end user. Banning them all is irresponsible.

Cows can handle being in the rain. Animals live in weather all the time and it's okay.

Your general language is pretty off as well.
Contain air conditioning and heating? So I must simultaneously heat and cool all my animals at all times?
One foot of space? Is that a linear foot, a square foot, or a cubic foot? I'm sure the pigs will love that.

You're working on a lot of resolutions at once and I hate to be mean, but they're all pretty shit. Before you pick up a pen, you should participate in debates on other proposals so you can learn how to look critically at your work and figure out what people are looking for in a resolution.

And by the grace of the wizards, do not submit anything else. Its all such shit it will get you ejected from this assembly. Most resolutions go weeks- others months, before being submitted and that doesn't even guarantee they are free of loop holes and legality concerns.

The only way to rescue this is to focus on preventing animal abuse. Don't concern yourself with the specifics of what every animal gets in life but focus on preventing and punishing gross abuses like inhumane slaughter, beatings, forced fighting, starvation.
But you better know what you're talking about. A lot of people want to make feel good resolutions that make sure cows get sedatives before they get their throats slit but don't realize that they could kill everyone who eats the meat.

Well hello again, Ambassador! I'm impressed that you were able to upset the Defwean delegate so thoroughly with so few lines of text. Bravo!

That said, please heed her advice. I can tell you mean well, but that won't save you from the wrath of the Secretariat (mode and their hammers) if you submit unfinished and illegal drafts.

Point Breeze wrote:Well hello again, Ambassador! I'm impressed that you were able to upset the Defwean delegate so thoroughly with so few lines of text. Bravo!

That said, please heed his(?) advice. I can tell you mean well, but that won't save you from the wrath of the Secretariat (mode and their hammers) if you submit unfinished and illegal drafts.

I've just had to say that a few times today.

[She]

Defwa wrote:

Point Breeze wrote:Well hello again, Ambassador! I'm impressed that you were able to upset the Defwean delegate so thoroughly with so few lines of text. Bravo!

That said, please heed his(?) advice. I can tell you mean well, but that won't save you from the wrath of the Secretariat (mode and their hammers) if you submit unfinished and illegal drafts.

I've just had to say that a few times today.

[She]

Duly noted. I sigged the juiciest bit of your comments, if you don't mind.

Separatist Peoples wrote:"I'm not convinced that non-sapient animal abuse is an international issue. Or even an issue. I'm wholly unconvinced that non-sapient animals have rights, honestly."

"I am in agreement with you on this one. There are fringe groups that believe they should be held to the same standards as the dominant race, they are also completely ignoring the laws of nature in this naive approach. Also, you will have to clarify this part:

RECOGNIZES that many domesticated animals are treated with an enormous amount of abuse, including malnutrition and beatings.

This does not happen in my nation, nor a vast majority of member nations. Clarify this or cease making extremist statements without backing in order to target heartstrings."

The Peoples Federal Empire wrote:DECLARES
1) All animals must be executed in a way that the animal will feel highly reduced or no pain.

Humans and Bears (and various other peoples) are animals. This mandates the execution of all Humans and Bears (and various other peoples). Therefore, as currently written, illegal for contradiction of the existing resolution: 'Convention on Genocide'!

The Peoples Federal Empire wrote:all animals must have at least one foot of space.

"One foot. Are we sure that's enough for all animals?"

~ Arky Trangnuts
Commercial whale fisherman

Bears Armed wrote:

The Peoples Federal Empire wrote:DECLARES
1) All animals must be executed in a way that the animal will feel highly reduced or no pain.

Humans and Bears (and various other peoples) are animals. This mandates the execution of all Humans and Bears (and various other peoples). Therefore, as currently written, illegal for contradiction of the existing resolution: 'Convention on Genocide'!

A large potted plant in a big plantpot with wheels suddenly comes to life, revealing a large leaf curled up to form a cone, from which a somewhat hissing voice can be heard:

"Though we find our selves once more excempt from this proposal, we find it necessary to address this misunderstanding. Though the honorable bear is correct in pointing out the animal side of many sapient creatures, we are quite certain he is intentionally taking the proposal text too literally. We can see no cause to believe the quoted clause means every animal must be executed if this were to become a resolution, but rather when an animal is executed, it should be done painlessly. Would this not be a good thing for sapient executions too?

If the author wishes to avoid some ambassadors taking the proposal text too literally [OOC: with the "the law does what the law says" as reason], they might wish to reword it something like "when an animal is executed, it should be carried out in a manner where the animal will feel highly reduced or no pain". And if they wish to avoid this being read as including sapient animals, such as humans or our ursine colleague, making it read the "non-sapient animal" might be a good change."

Gruenberg wrote:

The Peoples Federal Empire wrote:all animals must have at least one foot of space.

"One foot. Are we sure that's enough for all animals?"

"We our selves would be hard-pressed to find a foot - whatever meaning that measurement has - of space for each of our bees, who currently number around 50 thousand."