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[Idea] International Justice Act

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:50 pm
by Maoist People
The International Justice Act is an act to increase the amount of votes required to pass legislation in the World Assembly.

OBSERVING that a simple majority vote is required for a proposal to become a resolution in the World Assembly,

SEEING how only a simple majority vote may not fully represent the member states of the World Assembly,

AND

NOTING that this may lead to legislation being passed that isn't extremely supported by the member states of the World Assembly.

THEREFORE a proposal must receive two-thirds (2/3) of the total votes cast "For" in order for it to become a resolution.

THIS isn't prohibited because the rules state that, "Adjusting the number of votes needed for queue," isn't allowed, but this is not a vote in the queue, it is an actual World Assembly vote, and this action is therefore allowed.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:53 pm
by Hirota
Read the rules. Any legislation that seeks to change the mechanics of the game is metagaming a Game Mechanics violation - such as changing the voting process.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:54 pm
by Societatis Frigidus
Would support.
However, I want to remind the delegate that this vote will also affect repeal calls for already passed legislation.

OOC: Are you sure this is really allowed? o.O Seems fishy to me.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:57 pm
by Maoist People
What rule does this proposal break?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:57 pm
by Maoist People
Good point. I'll re-write it to exclude previous legislation.

[Revised Idea] International Justice Act

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:59 pm
by Maoist People
The International Justice Act is an act to increase the amount of votes required to pass legislation in the World Assembly.

OBSERVING that a simple majority vote is required for a proposal to become a resolution in the World Assembly,

SEEING how only a simple majority vote may not fully represent the member states of the World Assembly,

AND

NOTING that this may lead to legislation being passed that isn't extremely supported by the member states of the World Assembly.

THEREFORE a proposal must receive two-thirds (2/3) of the total votes cast "For" in order for it to become a resolution.

THIS isn't prohibited because the rules state that, "Adjusting the number of votes needed for queue," isn't allowed, but this is not a vote in the queue, it is an actual World Assembly vote, and this action is therefore allowed.

ALL previously passed resolutions are exempt from this act for obvious reasons. All acts passed after the passing of this act must comply with this act.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:59 pm
by Separatist Peoples
Maoist People wrote:Good point. I'll re-write it to exclude previous legislation.


OOC: That won't change the fact that you are not allowed to pass proposals that affect the game itself. The number of votes required is a function of the game. This is illegal.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:00 pm
by Separatist Peoples
Maoist People wrote:The International Justice Act is an act to increase the amount of votes required to pass legislation in the World Assembly.

OBSERVING that a simple majority vote is required for a proposal to become a resolution in the World Assembly,

SEEING how only a simple majority vote may not fully represent the member states of the World Assembly,

AND

NOTING that this may lead to legislation being passed that isn't extremely supported by the member states of the World Assembly.

THEREFORE a proposal must receive two-thirds (2/3) of the total votes cast "For" in order for it to become a resolution.

THIS isn't prohibited because the rules state that, "Adjusting the number of votes needed for queue," isn't allowed, but this is not a vote in the queue, it is an actual World Assembly vote, and this action is therefore allowed.

ALL previously passed resolutions are exempt from this act for obvious reasons. All acts passed after the passing of this act must comply with this act.


OOC: Don't make a new thread for revisions, edit your post in your original thread...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:01 pm
by Maoist People
Okay. Thanks.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:02 pm
by Separatist Peoples
Game Mechanics

Game Mechanics violations are attempts to change how either the World Assembly or NationStates work. Generally, these are proposals that should be threads in Technical. Anything that requires and adjustment to how the game does things, or requires a change of code falls into this category.

Examples of game mechanics violations:

Requiring "proper" spelling and/or grammar
Adjusting the number of votes needed for queue
Creating a universal WA currency
Forming a secondary WA, or forcing the current WA to dissolve
Requiring that nations are ejected for non-compliance with any resolution


OOC: Before you go ahead and say there is no rule on the matter.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:03 pm
by Maoist People
Okay. You got me.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:04 pm
by Kryozerkia
Merged the two proposal threads.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:06 pm
by Hirota
Maoist People wrote:THIS isn't prohibited because the rules state that, "Adjusting the number of votes needed for queue," isn't allowed, but this is not a vote in the queue, it is an actual World Assembly vote, and this action is therefore allowed.

Examples of game mechanics violations:
Just because it is not in that list does not mean it is not a violation. That is a list of examples, not an exhaustive list.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:08 pm
by Kryozerkia
Hirota wrote:
Maoist People wrote:THIS isn't prohibited because the rules state that, "Adjusting the number of votes needed for queue," isn't allowed, but this is not a vote in the queue, it is an actual World Assembly vote, and this action is therefore allowed.

Examples of game mechanics violations:
Just because it is not in that list does not mean it is not a violation. That is a list of examples, not an exhaustive list.

You're right. It is not exhaustive, but just a few examples. The first line of the rule is clear:

Game Mechanics violations are attempts to change how either the World Assembly or NationStates work.


Proposals at-vote are still part of the World Assembly and the game. Attempting to change the way at-vote works is attempting to change the way an aspect of the game works.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:11 pm
by Fendon
If Member nations want to be represented in the WA, then they should vote on resolutions. We don't need a 2/3 policy, we need the policy we have at the moment. I think you may be forgetting that almost all resolutions have more than 1/3 of voters who disagree with resolutions. The WA wouldn't be able to get anything done, if a 2/3 vote threshold was passed.