[REDRAFT] On Planetary Annihilation (6)

[Hakio]

"Welp. That could have gone better..."
Someone in the back of the office coughs.
"Okay everyone," Sia claps her hands together. " Back to work. I want a 6th draft done by the beginning of May."
A secretary approaches Sia, "Ma'am the delegate of StanStanStan...Stan left a message."
"Okay, I'll leave them a message later."

beep.
"--You can take your P.E.N.I.S. and shove it up your ass!"
"...Don't leave messages to other diplomats when you're drunk Sia, it's not good for you're public im--"
"FOK YOOOU, I'm completely drunk not."

[North American Affiliates]

War is never a good thing, but we mustn't forget that we must always be prepared for it. The Republic of North American Affiliates' people understand that. We have no desire to be warmongers, but we will never not be ready to go to war at a moment's notice. I do not support this proposition.

[El Fiji Grande]

War is never a good thing, but we mustn't forget that we must always be prepared for it. The Republic of North American Affiliates' people understand that. We have no desire to be warmongers, but we will never not be ready to go to war at a moment's notice. I do not support this proposition.

That's an interesting perspective, and yet only slightly off from my own views. I'll take that into consideration.

[Chester Pearson]

"Welp. That could have gone better..."

You were warned multiple times....

[Hakio]

"Welp. That could have gone better..."

You were warned multiple times....

"I do not understand your statement. I do not remember being warned of anything."

[Defwa]

You were warned multiple times....

"I do not understand your statement. I do not remember being warned of anything."

You were warned that not falsely labeling your resolution would male it unpopular with the voters who do not read resolutions

[Hakio]

Keep on truckin...
6th Draft is up.

EDIT: Also added a poll. All threads are better with polls.

[Hakio]

"What does everyone think of the ICPB? Is the ICPB a necessary part of this resolution?"

[Defwa]

I am personally against most committees. I understand the desire to have one so nations can act like they exist in a gray area but I really don't think it accomplishes anything as present

I think you should turn the resolution inside out. Instead of "You are not allowed to use these weapons because they are bad except in these cases," turn it into, "the WA enshrines your right to use these weapons except in these cases." Like NAPA

[Hakio]

I am personally against most committees. I understand the desire to have one so nations can act like they exist in a gray area but I really don't think it accomplishes anything as present

"The idea of the Intergalactic Committee for Planetary Bodies is to create an organization to handle the licensing of legal planetary annihilation so that nations will not find ways to destroy planets 'by accident' or destroy non WA planets perceived as a 'threat' so they will annihilate them for no good reason. They will observe and unbiasedly view the evidence brought forth and make decisions on legalities."

[Defwa]

I am personally against most committees. I understand the desire to have one so nations can act like they exist in a gray area but I really don't think it accomplishes anything as present

"The idea of the Intergalactic Committee for Planetary Bodies is to create an organization to handle the licensing of legal planetary annihilation so that nations will not find ways to destroy planets 'by accident' or destroy non WA planets perceived as a 'threat' so they will annihilate them for no good reason. They will observe and unbiasedly view the evidence brought forth and make decisions on legalities."

Right now the legislation failed because of its perceived restriction on use. Maybe this should be saved for a complementary resolution on WMDs, but either way it will be a hard sell.
also I edited my last post

[Chester Pearson]

It will not pass as Global Disarmament/Significant. You could write into the resolution that it gives us all free hookers and weed, and it still will not pass at Global Disarmament/Significant.

A lot of players are "stat" players, and they do not like WA legislation cutting their military spending. Feel free to ignore this advice as I know you will....

[Araraukar]

OOC: And please stop telegramming me how "we're not giving up" - especially as I had nothing to do with this stupid proposal to begin with.

[Hakio]

OOC: And please stop telegramming me how "we're not giving up" - especially as I had nothing to do with this stupid proposal to begin with.

OOC: We were joking but fine. It wasn't a campaign or anything.

[Kingdom of the Polar Bear]

Aurora smiles scarcasticly and takes out a index card and sharpie and writes something on it and holds it up. The card reads, "What?" Then says, "this sounds like a thing my grandfather wrote while he was drunk and stoned beyond belief on my 18th birthday. It makes absolutely no sence whatsoever and is also funny as heck! This is why:

1. It basicly says, "you are forbidden to use these weapons. But you may produce them and own them," that's like saying, "I'm not allowed to drink, but I'm going to order a drink for later,"

2. Last I checked, there are barely any nations in NS that have the technology to take outa a planet. At least to our knoloage,"

[Defwa]

Aurora smiles scarcasticly and takes out a index card and sharpie and writes something on it and holds it up. The card reads, "What?" Then says, "this sounds like a thing my grandfather wrote while he was drunk and stoned beyond belief on my 18th birthday. It makes absolutely no sence whatsoever and is also funny as heck! This is why:

1. It basicly says, "you are forbidden to use these weapons. But you may produce them and own them," that's like saying, "I'm not allowed to drink, but I'm going to order a drink for later,"

2. Last I checked, there are barely any nations in NS that have the technology to take outa a planet. At least to our knoloage,"

1. It doesn't say that. It says you can use them against non WA nations and keep them as method of self defense and deterrence.

2. Several nations have come forward throughout this discussion and stated they possess the capability. That's enough to give this purpose.

[Starkmoor]

We have reviewed the 6th draft of this proposal and we still must oppose it. Great intentions, but there is a significant flaw in this legislation. Mandating pre-approval for a strike by the ICPB would unworkable and slow from a tactical standpoint and potentially eliminate the element of surprise that would make such an attack worthwhile.


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Comrade Frank K. Burlingame
World Assembly Ambassador for the People's Republic of Starkmoor

[Defwa]

We have reviewed the 6th draft of this proposal and we still must oppose it. Great intentions, but there is a significant flaw in this legislation. Mandating pre-approval for a strike by the ICPB would unworkable and slow from a tactical standpoint and potentially eliminate the element of surprise that would make such an attack worthwhile.

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Comrade Frank K. Burlingame
World Assembly Ambassador for the People's Republic of Starkmoor

Any value to a surprise attack on a civilian population is lost to its unethicalness

[Separatist Peoples]

We have reviewed the 6th draft of this proposal and we still must oppose it. Great intentions, but there is a significant flaw in this legislation. Mandating pre-approval for a strike by the ICPB would unworkable and slow from a tactical standpoint and potentially eliminate the element of surprise that would make such an attack worthwhile.

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Comrade Frank K. Burlingame
World Assembly Ambassador for the People's Republic of Starkmoor

Any value to a surprise attack on a civilian population is lost to its unethicalness

"You say that, but...its hard to win an argument on military ethics with the armed soldier standing on your neck..."

[Bears Armed]

"You say that, but...its hard to win an argument on military ethics with the armed soldier standing on your neck..."

"If they're already standing on your neck then it's probably too late for blowing up their homeworld to help you anyhows..."

[Hakio]

What category should this be?

[Mosktopia]

As long as you're telling folks they can't use certain weapons, precedent suggests it's a global disarmament proposal.

[Chester Pearson]

What category should this be?

Rewrite it to allow use of these weapons under certain circumstances, and you can easily pass this as International Security/Mild.

[Hakio]

What category should this be?

Rewrite it to allow use of these weapons under certain circumstances, and you can easily pass this as International Security/Mild.

I'm not sure if this would be mild...

[Chester Pearson]

Rewrite it to allow use of these weapons under certain circumstances, and you can easily pass this as International Security/Mild.

I'm not sure if this would be mild...

The Chemical Weapons Accord is, and it affects a far wider area of policy than this does.

This is still affecting a very narrow area of policy. Most nations don't even possess the capability of interstellar travel so this will not effect them in anyway, yet they will take a massive hit to their stats if it is passed at a stronger strength.

It's not about the strength of the weapons, it is about how wide of an area the resolution affects....