[Submitted] Sexual Education Act

[Normlpeople]

Clover rises to address Ambassador Tung.

"While I get what you are trying to say, the national sovereignty logic behind what your arguements can be applied to any debate, any proposal, any resolution that has ever taken place in these chambers. For every resolution that has been passed, there are nations in the WA that have had their toes stepped on, that have been forced to adapt national outlooks and policies based on resolutions that have contradicted their government's philosophies.

In this particular case, I would echo a previously made argument that the WA, through multiple resolutions, have essentially implemented a very liberal attitude toward sex in its member nations. It is almost required for it to take the responsibility to educate the citizens of these nations in the responsible practice of these rights, and the consequences of such acts."

[Draica]

Clover rises to address Ambassador Tung.

"While I get what you are trying to say, the national sovereignty logic behind what your arguements can be applied to any debate, any proposal, any resolution that has ever taken place in these chambers. For every resolution that has been passed, there are nations in the WA that have had their toes stepped on, that have been forced to adapt national outlooks and policies based on resolutions that have contradicted their government's philosophies.

In this particular case, I would echo a previously made argument that the WA, through multiple resolutions, have essentially implemented a very liberal attitude toward sex in its member nations. It is almost required for it to take the responsibility to educate the citizens of these nations in the responsible practice of these rights, and the consequences of such acts."

"And Draica has gone through every single loophole it can to ensure sex remains special." He remarked. "Sadly, the World Assembly has made it incredibly difficult to do that. "

[Defwa]

Clover rises to address Ambassador Tung.

"While I get what you are trying to say, the national sovereignty logic behind what your arguements can be applied to any debate, any proposal, any resolution that has ever taken place in these chambers. For every resolution that has been passed, there are nations in the WA that have had their toes stepped on, that have been forced to adapt national outlooks and policies based on resolutions that have contradicted their government's philosophies.

In this particular case, I would echo a previously made argument that the WA, through multiple resolutions, have essentially implemented a very liberal attitude toward sex in its member nations. It is almost required for it to take the responsibility to educate the citizens of these nations in the responsible practice of these rights, and the consequences of such acts."

"And Draica has gone through every single loophole it can to ensure sex remains special." He remarked. "Sadly, the World Assembly has made it incredibly difficult to do that. "

How does knowing about sex make it less special?

[Wrapper]

How does knowing about sex make it less special?

Perhaps STDs and unwanted pregnancies are considered "special"?

[Friday Freshman]

Tung rises to the podium once more

"First, let me start off by saying we're all different. We are all different in this melting pot called the World Assembly. Some of us are liberal, some conservative, some a mix, some authoritarian , some communists some socialists and so forth. Many culture based, conservative countries would not be in favor of this bill because it could:

1. Go against the laws they already have in place.

2. In Draica's case, get the Government involved in Education.

3. Offend their moral values.

What works in Eireann Fae may not work in Draica. What works on a frozen planet may not work on a planet full of Elves and other creatures covered by lush forests. The World Assembly should know and understand this. If the Government of Eireann Fae wishes to enact this system upon their children or adolescents, no one is stopping them. What I do not understand is why they want to enact this on all of us. This has no international precedent neither does it affect anything internationally. This is a national issue. The World Assembly should not be legislating things like Abortion, Healthcare, and Sexual education.

These chambers have authority and power, let's use that authority and power to push forth an agenda on International issues and not petty politics and domestic cases. I rest my case."

Tung sits down.

Ambassador..... WHERE WERE YOU AT REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOMS????????

Don't mistake that for me not supporting this bill. I do support this

[Applebania]

How does knowing about sex make it less special?

Perhaps STDs and unwanted pregnancies are considered "special"?

"Dracia's a very strange place," Claire replied.

[Eireann Fae]

"Ambassador Tung, in your blind hatred of what we are attempting to do here, you seem to be rather ignorant of what the World Assembly already does. Safety has already been shown to be a concern of this Assembly, as demonstrated by the passage of the Workplace Safety Standards Act, the establishment of the World Health Authority, and in creating and enforcing Food and Drug Standards, among many others. The Assembly has also seen fit to legislate on matters of sexuality, in resolutions such as the Freedom of Marriage Act, the Sexual Privacy Act, and the Clean Prostitute Act. Finally, despite your repeated assertions to the contrary, the World Assembly does mandate that your government educate its citizens with A Promotion of Basic Education, and even asks you to educate other nations' citizens in the interest of a Promotion of Intl Education. That your government chooses to blatantly disregard these last two is of no concern to us - the laws do exist, and there is a precedence for the World Assembly mandating a basic education of its protected citizens."

"Put simply, claims of national sovereignty on this issue will not fly."

[Separatist Peoples]

Clover rises to address Ambassador Tung.

"While I get what you are trying to say, the national sovereignty logic behind what your arguements can be applied to any debate, any proposal, any resolution that has ever taken place in these chambers. For every resolution that has been passed, there are nations in the WA that have had their toes stepped on, that have been forced to adapt national outlooks and policies based on resolutions that have contradicted their government's philosophies.

In this particular case, I would echo a previously made argument that the WA, through multiple resolutions, have essentially implemented a very liberal attitude toward sex in its member nations. It is almost required for it to take the responsibility to educate the citizens of these nations in the responsible practice of these rights, and the consequences of such acts."

"And Draica has gone through every single loophole it can to ensure sex remains special." He remarked. "Sadly, the World Assembly has made it incredibly difficult to do that. "

"Does knowing how a diamond is formed make it any less special? How about a baby? One's first car? At least most of the other members of this assembly try to make decent arguments. You just arrange detritus into sentences, ambassador..."

[Bears Armed]

In this particular case, I would echo a previously made argument that the WA, through multiple resolutions, have essentially implemented a very liberal attitude toward sex in its member nations. It is almost required for it to take the responsibility to educate the citizens of these nations in the responsible practice of these rights, and the consequences of such acts."

"Or, maybeso, to repeal those other resolutions instead..."


Urra o HighPeaks,
Apprentice Voice, Bears Armed Mission at the World Assembly.

[Draica]

"Ambassador Tung, in your blind hatred of what we are attempting to do here, you seem to be rather ignorant of what the World Assembly already does. Safety has already been shown to be a concern of this Assembly, as demonstrated by the passage of the Workplace Safety Standards Act, the establishment of the World Health Authority, and in creating and enforcing Food and Drug Standards, among many others. The Assembly has also seen fit to legislate on matters of sexuality, in resolutions such as the Freedom of Marriage Act, the Sexual Privacy Act, and the Clean Prostitute Act. Finally, despite your repeated assertions to the contrary, the World Assembly does mandate that your government educate its citizens with A Promotion of Basic Education, and even asks you to educate other nations' citizens in the interest of a Promotion of Intl Education. That your government chooses to blatantly disregard these last two is of no concern to us - the laws do exist, and there is a precedence for the World Assembly mandating a basic education of its protected citizens."

"Put simply, claims of national sovereignty on this issue will not fly."

"And the Ambassador continues to ignore that Draica does educate it's citizens, the Government just doesn't play a very big role in it. It doesn't mandate, however that we must teach them Sexual Education. I don't think your liberal mind can handle the fact of Government playing a minimal roll in the classroom. The roll is not large at all. That law that you cite also doesn't say the Government must play a role in Education, just that citizens should get education.

My point stands, a nation with conservative and moralistic values would not like this because it tells our teens that it's OK to have sex, just be "safe" with it. That''s indocterination and if they are fed that they will eat that, Ambassador. This is about common sense, here. Draica would like to keep our teen pregnancy rates low and not spike them, teenagers are not always careful and protection may not always work since they're not careful. A different route must be taken, Ambassador.

This further reinforces my point, what works with Eireaan Fae's children may not work with Draica's."

[Wrapper]

I don't think your liberal mind can handle the fact of Government playing a minimal roll in the classroom. The roll is not large at all.

Rolls? Seriously? Ambassador, we can't tell if you're suggesting that your hot dogs are too big for your buns, or your education system could use a little improvement in the area of spelling.

[Wrapper]

I don't think your liberal mind can handle the fact of Government playing a minimal roll in the classroom. The roll is not large at all.

Rolls? Seriously? Ambassador, we can't tell if you're suggesting that your hot dogs are too big for your buns, or your education system could use a little improvement in the area of spelling.

OOC: Okay just realized... sex ed... and hot dogs... and buns... SERIOUSLY I did not do that on purpose!

[The Dark Star Republic]

In this particular case, I would echo a previously made argument that the WA, through multiple resolutions, have essentially implemented a very liberal attitude toward sex in its member nations. It is almost required for it to take the responsibility to educate the citizens of these nations in the responsible practice of these rights, and the consequences of such acts."

"Or, maybeso, to repeal those other resolutions instead..."
:p

Urra o HighPeaks,
Apprentice Voice, Bears Armed Mission at the World Assembly.

"Once those resolutions were repealed, this one could be repealed too as unneeded. Equally, if those resolutions were repealed, there would be no guarantee they would not be replaced (the NSUN repealed "Sexual Freedom", but replaced it almost immediately with an equally expansive version).

"The idea that an organization that has spent years obsessed with repeatedly protecting an almost totally expansive view of sexual freedom is going to tomorrow suddenly forget all about that may be politically convenient, but it is unrealistic."

~ Ambassador to the WA Inky Fungschlammer

[Bears Armed]

"Or, maybeso, to repeal those other resolutions instead..."


Urra o HighPeaks,
Apprentice Voice, Bears Armed Mission at the World Assembly.

"Once those resolutions were repealed, this one could be repealed too as unneeded. Equally, if those resolutions were repealed, there would be no guarantee they would not be replaced (the NSUN repealed "Sexual Freedom", but replaced it almost immediately with an equally expansive version).

"The idea that an organization that has spent years obsessed with repeatedly protecting an almost totally expansive view of sexual freedom is going to tomorrow suddenly forget all about that may be politically convenient, but it is unrealistic."

OOC: That particular spokesbear doesn't always think for as long as she probably should do before speaking, so any comments made by her needn't necessarily be taken seriously. She is learning, but only slowly...

[Nucoclan]

I like the Idea.

[Normlpeople]

"And the Ambassador continues to ignore that Draica does educate it's citizens, the Government just doesn't play a very big role in it. It doesn't mandate, however that we must teach them Sexual Education. I don't think your liberal mind can handle the fact of Government playing a minimal roll in the classroom. The roll is not large at all. That law that you cite also doesn't say the Government must play a role in Education, just that citizens should get education.

My point stands, a nation with conservative and moralistic values would not like this because it tells our teens that it's OK to have sex, just be "safe" with it. That''s indocterination and if they are fed that they will eat that, Ambassador. This is about common sense, here. Draica would like to keep our teen pregnancy rates low and not spike them, teenagers are not always careful and protection may not always work since they're not careful. A different route must be taken, Ambassador.

This further reinforces my point, what works with Eireaan Fae's children may not work with Draica's."

"Since your government 'doesn't play a big role in it', it can continue to do so while mandating necessary education. You don't mandate that they receive sex education, yet the fact that you claim to have a "low teen pregnancy rate" shows that they are receiving it from somewhere. If anything, this act will ensure it remains low, teaching preventative methods as well as the consequences of the act (or of failing to practice preventative methods). While I'm sure preaching 'abstinence till marriage' works for you, nations that grant their citizens a little more freedom of exploration will require this act.

Your comment about a liberal mind is amusing, I have never been accused of that. I find it hilarious actually. Your further comment regarding "conservative and moralistic values" is equally meaningless. We, for example, follow a strict Capitalistic ideology in which we have no need for environmental laws (the government has no place in regulating industry.... sound familiar?) yet we abide by the ones the WA passes, because we chose, voluntarily, to be a member of this organization. You have to come to terms with the fact that your toes will be stepped on. You will be forced to act certain ways on issues you and your ideology do not agree with. This is the nature of the beast."

[Separatist Peoples]

"And the Ambassador continues to ignore that Draica does educate it's citizens, the Government just doesn't play a very big role in it. It doesn't mandate, however that we must teach them Sexual Education. I don't think your liberal mind can handle the fact of Government playing a minimal roll in the classroom. The roll is not large at all. That law that you cite also doesn't say the Government must play a role in Education, just that citizens should get education.

My point stands, a nation with conservative and moralistic values would not like this because it tells our teens that it's OK to have sex, just be "safe" with it. That''s indocterination and if they are fed that they will eat that, Ambassador. This is about common sense, here. Draica would like to keep our teen pregnancy rates low and not spike them, teenagers are not always careful and protection may not always work since they're not careful. A different route must be taken, Ambassador.

This further reinforces my point, what works with Eireaan Fae's children may not work with Draica's."

"So, if your government takes the minimal steps it already has to take to be compliant with past resolutions involving education, sex ed can be taught by whatever entity handles education in the hellhole you call home, the government needs expend only what it costs to have a few investigators per region to enforce it, or whatever you feel like doing, and TADA! you're in compliance. Or, you can ignore it altogether and simply allow GIBE to handle the education independently. So long as your government doesn't actively stifle it, you're in compliance.. Neither option requires any dramatic government intrusion more then any other education bill does. "

"Christ, its like pulling teeth with this one.."

[The Eternal Kawaii]

"Ambassador Tung, in your blind hatred of what we are attempting to do here, you seem to be rather ignorant of what the World Assembly already does. Safety has already been shown to be a concern of this Assembly, as demonstrated by the passage of the Workplace Safety Standards Act, the establishment of the World Health Authority, and in creating and enforcing Food and Drug Standards, among many others. The Assembly has also seen fit to legislate on matters of sexuality, in resolutions such as the Freedom of Marriage Act, the Sexual Privacy Act, and the Clean Prostitute Act. Finally, despite your repeated assertions to the contrary, the World Assembly does mandate that your government educate its citizens with A Promotion of Basic Education, and even asks you to educate other nations' citizens in the interest of a Promotion of Intl Education. That your government chooses to blatantly disregard these last two is of no concern to us - the laws do exist, and there is a precedence for the World Assembly mandating a basic education of its protected citizens."

All of those laws could be stricken from the WA books and replaced with equivalent laws on the national level, and the world's citizens would be no worse off. All the Ambassador's argument demonstrates is that fewer WA resolutions are needed, not more.

[Defwa]

"Ambassador Tung, in your blind hatred of what we are attempting to do here, you seem to be rather ignorant of what the World Assembly already does. Safety has already been shown to be a concern of this Assembly, as demonstrated by the passage of the Workplace Safety Standards Act, the establishment of the World Health Authority, and in creating and enforcing Food and Drug Standards, among many others. The Assembly has also seen fit to legislate on matters of sexuality, in resolutions such as the Freedom of Marriage Act, the Sexual Privacy Act, and the Clean Prostitute Act. Finally, despite your repeated assertions to the contrary, the World Assembly does mandate that your government educate its citizens with A Promotion of Basic Education, and even asks you to educate other nations' citizens in the interest of a Promotion of Intl Education. That your government chooses to blatantly disregard these last two is of no concern to us - the laws do exist, and there is a precedence for the World Assembly mandating a basic education of its protected citizens."

All of those laws could be stricken from the WA books and replaced with equivalent laws on the national level, and the world's citizens would be no worse off. All the Ambassador's argument demonstrates is that fewer WA resolutions are needed, not more.

Then why even join the world assembly?
Being a member gives you all sorts of trade and diplomatic benefits. In return, members agree to be held to a certain standard. Sure, national legislation is just as good- it has to be because when a world assembly resolution is passed, members enact national legislation to get in compliance. The problem is some don't make the right choices. They do not behave by the high standard that the World assembly holds them to, and thus we enforce acceptable behavior via gnome.

Of course nations can enact equally good legislation. But because they don't always do so on their own...

[Frustrated Franciscans]

We are firmly opposed to this. The creation of a committee in order to study "details and effects of sexual activity" is immoral, unethical, and beneath the dignity of the fine gnomes of the WA. The last thing we need is for them to have to start going into everyone's bedrooms. Moreover, I suspect the findings might prove politically damaging for most (if not all) of the official governments of the member states of the WA.

[Frustrated Franciscans]

Then why even join the world assembly?

It should be noted that there are many reasons to join the festering snakepit. Contractual obligations within a trans-regional organization whose founder has the ability to pummel our nation into atomic components, (not that they actually stated they would have done that had we refused) is one of them.

However, I would like to counter your arguments by something I call the "reasonable nation" theory. All the nations in the World Assembly are reasonable nations. All non reasonable nations are probably not in the World Assembly in the first place. If you want to impose your own standard of morality on a nation that would normally be opposed to your standard of morality, you might just find that nation no longer in the WA and your efforts are completely wasted. One might make the case of a common moral standard when economies of scale makes the common standard more efficient and effective. But when that is not the case, a one size fits all approach often causes more headaches than not.

[Eireann Fae]

Rowan shakes her head at the Frustrated Franciscan. "The gnomes do a lot of things that you may consider beneath their dignity, yet they shall continue to toil tirelessly to ensure nations' compliance with whatever resolutions this body sees fit to pass. We are rather curious, however, as to why you believe such legislation as we are proposing may be 'political damaging' to all governments of member nations." She directs her attention to the other delegates assembled.

"So, would those in support of the concept be in favour of or opposed to our most recent suggested alteration to the text? We truly are of two minds on the idea, and would appreciate an outside opinion. It is our intention to submit this proposal for an uncampaigned test run in the near future, and would like as much feedback as possible before doing so."

[Cardoness]

We greatly appreciate that our concern is being addressed. As to the language, we suggest one small change.

INSTRUCTS Member Nations to implement the curriculum created by GIBE to educate those members of their populace before they sexually mature so long as unless they may be deemed incognisant of their species' sexuality, OR

ALLOWS Member Nations to create their own curriculum, so long as it meets standards set by GIBE and is implemented in the same time frame.

The first way could be used by some to prevent this from having the desired effect. "Well, that child hasn't been deemed cognisant ect." It implies that one must be certified to understand with the base assumption being that they don't. The second way flips the argument around.

[Araraukar]

INSTRUCTS Member Nations to implement the curriculum created by GIBE to educate those members of their populace before they sexually mature so long as unless until they may be deemed incognisant knowledgeable of their species' sexuality,

I'd remake it this way, actually, but that's just my opinion.

[Frustrated Franciscans]

Rowan shakes her head at the Frustrated Franciscan. "The gnomes do a lot of things that you may consider beneath their dignity, yet they shall continue to toil tirelessly to ensure nations' compliance with whatever resolutions this body sees fit to pass. We are rather curious, however, as to why you believe such legislation as we are proposing may be 'political damaging' to all governments of member nations." She directs her attention to the other delegates assembled.

Friar John Sanders stands up and smiles. "It is one thing for a gnome to study, economic, political, and even social and societal data. It is quite another thing for them to be required to research 'the details and effects of sexual activity.' As they say, the devil's in those details. Are they required to research the preferred positions, level of foreplay, and a variety of other factors? After all you do state, 'including, but not limited to.' Look, I have no problem, well I do have problems, but that's not the point, with establishing sexual educations standards. I do have a problem with a committee to research the sexual details of citizens of member nations. As for the politically damaging part, I would ask Brother Maynard to explain that one in more detail."

Brother Maynard stood up. Why does the first order always ask the third order to explain the hard questions. "You see," Brother Maynard began, "while most nations might have a liberal sexual attitude they often, at the same time, place significant requirements of chastity on their elected officials. Note, I said chastity, not celibacy. Unfortunately, they are generally no better than the majority of the people in their own nation. Should these things be properly 'researched' by the gnomes, who are very good at what they do, the indiscretions of elected officials will be inevitably recorded. According to World Assembly Resolution ... (slight pause as he shuffles through his papers) number 196, 'Freedom of Information Act' such records are available to a general request through a FOIA request. Now I would hate to see what would be the result in most nations should the full details of a certain restroom on a certain floor within this building became public knowledge in the various nations throughout the whole World Assembly. There are just some things that should be kept private, for the good of the continued existence of the elected officials, of course."