[DEFEATED] Repeal "National Economic Freedoms"

[Separatist Peoples]

As the representative of Defwa in this assembly, I must say that Defwa could not support the incineration of another member nation. We would not like to see excessive force used to punish severe failings in etiquette on this international floor of discussion. We would definitely have to not support any ground, air, sea, or space invasion in order to put down this obviously unstable regime. And we absolutely could not be convinced to sell our drone weapons for this cause. Maybe something humanitarian, though.

"Ambassador, you misunderstand. I meant such actions could, theoretically, be taken as security against such crazed threats. This poor fellow is clearly under some delusions where the use of violence is one of the first resorts, and uncomfortably, he is in a position to effectively advocate it in his nation. To assuage any fears of overzealous use of such violence, I was merely assuring the involved representatives. I was, in no way, advocating actual military action."

[Chester Pearson]

"Yo!" Bell raised his hand. "Oh, wait. That was rhetorical...just let the poor fellow wear himself out with his ranting. His "security" can't hurt us, and the Kingdom of Yazuk or Coroscent or whatever lacks the military and economic ability to hurt the majority of represented nations involved in this incident. The C.D.S.P. alone could handle the collective security against this yokel. Just...ignore him until the gnomes drag him out by his toes?"

Really? Now that's a threat! I am part of one of those "attack him and you attack me" type reigons. Our regional delegates alone would end you. And my "security", yeah that's just the stuff you KNOW about.

I've addressed all of your points, you just failed to notice.

Take it to International Incidents then. This is neither the time nor place....

[Defwa]

As the representative of Defwa in this assembly, I must say that Defwa could not support the incineration of another member nation. We would not like to see excessive force used to punish severe failings in etiquette on this international floor of discussion. We would definitely have to not support any ground, air, sea, or space invasion in order to put down this obviously unstable regime. And we absolutely could not be convinced to sell our drone weapons for this cause. Maybe something humanitarian, though.

*The Ambassador for Yakus takes his shoe off and bangs it on the desk infront*

Face the facts. You have lost this argument. The majority is on our side. An if you even think about any aggression towards Yakus, we will retaliate with FULL strength; we will bury you.

The vote has been lost but no argument has been made. You claim to have addressed my points but you're hard pressed to find any record of that.

[Coroscent]

As the representative of Defwa in this assembly, I must say that Defwa could not support the incineration of another member nation. We would not like to see excessive force used to punish severe failings in etiquette on this international floor of discussion. We would definitely have to not support any ground, air, sea, or space invasion in order to put down this obviously unstable regime. And we absolutely could not be convinced to sell our drone weapons for this cause. Maybe something humanitarian, though.

"Ambassador, you misunderstand. I meant such actions could, theoretically, be taken as security against such crazed threats. This poor fellow is clearly under some delusions where the use of violence is one of the first resorts, and uncomfortably, he is in a position to effectively advocate it in his nation. To assuage any fears of overzealous use of such violence, I was merely assuring the involved representatives. I was, in no way, advocating actual military action."

I'm glad to hear it! *wipes sweat off brow* No one wants war and I certainly would not urge anyone in my government to vote for such a thing. But seriously, there's no need for threats. Now, let's diffuse this situation a little. No bomb threats, snipers or war mongering.

[Separatist Peoples]

"Yo!" Bell raised his hand. "Oh, wait. That was rhetorical...just let the poor fellow wear himself out with his ranting. His "security" can't hurt us, and the Kingdom of Yazuk or Coroscent or whatever lacks the military and economic ability to hurt the majority of represented nations involved in this incident. The C.D.S.P. alone could handle the collective security against this yokel. Just...ignore him until the gnomes drag him out by his toes?"

Really? Now that's a threat! I am part of one of those "attack him and you attack me" type reigons. Our regional delegates alone would end you. And my "security", yeah that's just the stuff you KNOW about.

I've addressed all of your points, you just failed to notice.

"No. It was not a threat. It was an example. You, as an individual entity, nor your representative nation are a credible threat economically, politically, or militarily. I was assuaging the concern of any unnerved ambassador with a simple comparison. The C.D.S.P. in no way involves itself in military dickwaving here."

[Coroscent]

*The Ambassador for Yakus takes his shoe off and bangs it on the desk infront*

Face the facts. You have lost this argument. The majority is on our side. An if you even think about any aggression towards Yakus, we will retaliate with FULL strength; we will bury you.

The vote has been lost but no argument has been made. You claim to have addressed my points but you're hard pressed to find any record of that.

I don't have a constitutional duty to find any such records.

[Defwa]

The vote has been lost but no argument has been made. You claim to have addressed my points but you're hard pressed to find any record of that.

I don't have a constitutional duty to find any such records.

So you're going to make insane claims and then refuse to back them up? I just cannot comprehend how a person can live like that. The amount of double think that requires to maintain is just immense.

You're not one of those orwellean nightmares are you?

[Chester Pearson]

I don't have a constitutional duty to find any such records.

So you're going to make insane claims and then refuse to back them up? I just cannot comprehend how a person can live like that. The amount of double think that requires to maintain is just immense.

You're not one of those orwellean nightmares are you?

No... He/She is probably about 15 or 16, and has watched too many documentaries about Reagan....

[Coroscent]

I don't have a constitutional duty to find any such records.

So you're going to make insane claims and then refuse to back them up? I just cannot comprehend how a person can live like that. The amount of double think that requires to maintain is just immense.

You're not one of those orwellean nightmares are you?

Doublethink? My Gods! You're not quoting 1984 now, are you? Yes, I've read the book. Well, obviously you lack the brain power to "doublethink" anything. So why bother?

[Coroscent]

So you're going to make insane claims and then refuse to back them up? I just cannot comprehend how a person can live like that. The amount of double think that requires to maintain is just immense.

You're not one of those orwellean nightmares are you?

No... He/She is probably about 15 or 16, and has watched too many documentaries about Reagan....

You're probably 12/13 and have watched too many Ed Miliband speeches.

In case you don't know who Ed Miliband is:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband

[Chester Pearson]

So you're going to make insane claims and then refuse to back them up? I just cannot comprehend how a person can live like that. The amount of double think that requires to maintain is just immense.

You're not one of those orwellean nightmares are you?

Doublethink? My Gods! You're not quoting 1984 now, are you? Yes, I've read the book. Well, obviously you lack the brain power to "doublethink" anything. So why bother?

And the flaming continues.....

[Defwa]

So you're going to make insane claims and then refuse to back them up? I just cannot comprehend how a person can live like that. The amount of double think that requires to maintain is just immense.

You're not one of those orwellean nightmares are you?

Doublethink? My Gods! You're not quoting 1984 now, are you? Yes, I've read the book. Well, obviously you lack the brain power to "doublethink" anything. So why bother?

It does seem to be the case, though. Do you see the contradiction in accusing me of not providing any evidence based discourse and then you utterly refusing to do so yourself?

[Coroscent]

Doublethink? My Gods! You're not quoting 1984 now, are you? Yes, I've read the book. Well, obviously you lack the brain power to "doublethink" anything. So why bother?

It does seem to be the case, though. Do you see the contradiction in accusing me of not providing any evidence based discourse and then you utterly refusing to do so yourself?

As the saying goes "don't go fixing where there's no breaking".

[Defwa]

It does seem to be the case, though. Do you see the contradiction in accusing me of not providing any evidence based discourse and then you utterly refusing to do so yourself?

As the saying goes "don't go fixing where there's no breaking".

Yes, that is the saying. Too bad it has no relation whatsoever to what I said.

[Coroscent]

As the saying goes "don't go fixing where there's no breaking".

Yes, that is the saying. Too bad it has no relation whatsoever to what I said.

It has no relation, only because you fail to see one.

[Defwa]

Yes, that is the saying. Too bad it has no relation whatsoever to what I said.

It has no relation, only because you fail to see one.

And now we're down to platitudes.
I've done plenty of explaining of my statements. Would you deign to grace is with your own?

[Chester Pearson]

Yes, that is the saying. Too bad it has no relation whatsoever to what I said.

It has no relation, only because you fail to see one.

Much like anything you have posted in this thread?

[Coroscent]

It has no relation, only because you fail to see one.

And now we're down to platitudes.
I've done plenty of explaining of my statements. Would you deign to grace is with your own?

Okay, now you're failing to make literal sense, let alone political sense.

[Point Breeze]

I'm sorry, I can't take this anymore. Any legitimate attempt to educate the ambassador from Coroscent have failed or been ignored. Flaming accomplishes even less. I humbly suggest we let this thread die the same fiery death as the unfortunate repeal attempt and, perhaps, collect the ashes into urns, and distribute them among the ambassadors present, as an eternal reminder of the consequences of making unchecked statements and failing to heed the advice of those more experienced.

[Defwa]

And now we're down to platitudes.
I've done plenty of explaining of my statements. Would you deign to grace is with your own?

Okay, now you're failing to make literal sense, let alone political sense.

I'll use simple words.

I have given details and expanded upon the logic I used to justify my position. You have not done that yet.

Stating that you are against communist ideas and pointing out the votes does not give a reason which is the main thing we're looking for.

In that specific instance you're quoting, I was asking you to tell me what connection "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has with refusing to provide evidence based arguments.

[Coroscent]

I'm sorry, I can't take this anymore. Any legitimate attempt to educate the ambassador from Coroscent have failed or been ignored. Flaming accomplishes even less. I humbly suggest we let this thread die the same fiery death as the unfortunate repeal attempt and, perhaps, collect the ashes into urns, and distribute them among the ambassadors present, as an eternal reminder of the consequences of making unchecked statements and failing to heed the advice of those more experienced.

I take that as a surrender document. Well signed.

[Wrapper]

Okay, now you're failing to make literal sense, let alone political sense.

Sense? Really? Ambassador, you're one to speak about not making sense:

I wish to state that I the ambassador for Yakus shall be voting AGAINST this resolution. Why should the WA stick its nose into places that it really shouldn't be? The decisions on "National Economic Freedoms" is a matter for nationstate democracy, not for international interference. As long as those freedoms in one member state do not intervene with another member state then the sovereign state should be able to uphold the right to be left to its own business. The resolution #68 should remain void and in effect for the benefit of nationstate democracy.

Is this one of those "good" and "honest" debate points? The one that argues that the resolution should be voided... so you voted against the repeal of it? And that it should also remain in effect... for the benefit of democracy?

Still not going to address this "good" and "honest" debate point?

We're beginning to wonder if you even realize that the resolution in question was a repeal, with the nonsensical arguments you've been spouting.

[Point Breeze]

I'm sorry, I can't take this anymore. Any legitimate attempt to educate the ambassador from Coroscent have failed or been ignored. Flaming accomplishes even less. I humbly suggest we let this thread die the same fiery death as the unfortunate repeal attempt and, perhaps, collect the ashes into urns, and distribute them among the ambassadors present, as an eternal reminder of the consequences of making unchecked statements and failing to heed the advice of those more experienced.

I take that as a surrender document. Well signed.

Take it however you want. The only disappointment I'll feel today is that you failed to learn what so many kind souls have tried to teach you.

[Coroscent]

Okay, now you're failing to make literal sense, let alone political sense.

Sense? Really? Ambassador, you're one to speak about not making sense:

Is this one of those "good" and "honest" debate points? The one that argues that the resolution should be voided... so you voted against the repeal of it? And that it should also remain in effect... for the benefit of democracy?

Still not going to address this "good" and "honest" debate point?

We're beginning to wonder if you even realize that the resolution in question was a repeal, with the nonsensical arguments you've been spouting.

Please, just surrender so I can have my victory whiskey. Of course I realise it's a repeal, I wasn't born yesterday, unlike some people...

I seriously thought this would be over now, but it will be over tomorrow.

[Dogeia]

The Leaders of Dogeia believe in a free-market, which means that Dogeia will be against this NEF repeal. A free market is what we believe to be the best option, and is in the best interests of our population.