LGBT Civil Rights Act

[Bleckonia]

I have proposed a proposal entitled "LGBT Civil Rights Act". If you approve it, I will advertise your region by telegramming random nations using the "Surprise Me" button.

Link: http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=bleckonia_1317090002

Non-delegate nations: PLEASE take a few minutes out of your time to read it! If you like it, telegram your regional delegate and tell them to approve it! If they approve it, I will advertise their region.

PS: I already know that I sound like an asskisser. Just so you know..........

[Dizyntk]

"Umm..You do realize that this proposal is illegal as it duplicates rights already provided under existing resolutions. I would suggest that you contact a Mod and have it removed voluntarily before one of them notices it and removes it anyway."

[Goobergunchia]

I make a point of order that section 4 of this proposal, to wit:

4. Any nation shall grant the right of same-sex couples to be married, or to have a same-sex union, and give these couples the same privileges as heterosexual couples. Individual nations will have the power whether or not to legalize the marriage of same-sex couples, but nations must legalize same-sex unions.

substantially contradicts in part and duplicates in part Articles 2 and 3 of Resolution #15 ("Freedom of Marriage Act"), which provides that "[n]o State shall restrict the right to enter into ... unions to persons of a certain sex or sexual orientation, nor shall they require that they be of the same or different sex", and that "[n]o State shall establish different conditions, requirements or effects to unions of persons of the same or different sex."

I make a further point of order that sections 1, 3, and 10 of this proposal, to wit:

1. Any nation shall make no law restricting the rights of citizens to perform consensual sexual acts with the same sex.

3. Any nation shall not penalize citizens for being an LGBT citizen, or for performing a consensual homosexual act.

10. All sodomy laws that prohibit consensual same-sex acts must be repealed.

substantially duplicate Article 3(a) of Resolution #16 ("Sexual Privacy Act"), which provides that "[n]o Nation shall enact legislation prohibiting, criminalizing or otherwise regulating sexual acts between consenting individuals when practiced in the privacy of the home, or otherwise away from public exposure."

I would advise the ambassador from Bleckonia to withdraw the proposal and heavily redraft it to focus on an area not addressed by prior resolutions.

[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian UN WA Ambassador
Citizen of the Rejected Realms

[OOC: It's customary to post your proposal in the forums when posting about it. Since you did it, I was going to do it for you, but since much of it's going over ground that's already been addressed I just pointed out the obviously illegal bits. I didn't fully vet everything and there might have been other illegal provisions that I didn't catch. Final judgment on legality, of course, is up to the moderators, but I'll echo Dizyntk in suggesting you ask for this to be removed via the Getting Help page.

Also, it's illegal to send regional recruitment telegrams to most nations that aren't in one of the Pacifics, the Rejected Realms, or Lazarus. Don't do it.]

[Floreria]

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[Black Marne]

I have proposed a proposal entitled "LGBT Civil Rights Act". If you approve it, I will advertise your region by telegramming random nations using the "Surprise Me"

Wait, isn't this bribery to an extent? Or trading political favors? Isn't that illegal within in WA chambers?

-The New Argonian Homeland of Black Marne

[Dizyntk]

I have proposed a proposal entitled "LGBT Civil Rights Act". If you approve it, I will advertise your region by telegramming random nations using the "Surprise Me"

Wait, isn't this bribery to an extent? Or trading political favors? Isn't that illegal within in WA chambers?

-The New Argonian Homeland of Black Marne

"Even if it is not, it is still quite tasteless even for these chambers. And that is saying something."

[Goobergunchia]

Lord Evif, having stated his point of order, took his seat while he waited for a ruling from the Secretariat. Although, hearing the buzz of annoyance at the Bleckonian ambassador's pitiful bribe attempt, he wouldn't be surprised to see a good defenestration first.

He smiled. "Now that hasn't happened in a while."

ON EDIT: Observed:

* 20 minutes ago: The proposal "LGBT Civil Rights Act" was removed from the floor.

[Alqania]

Lord Raekevik took a moment to collect his thoughts before addressing the author.

"I would like to commend Your Excellency for having the heart in the right place and seeking to improve civil rights regardless of sexual orientation and gender. While I am afraid our fellow Ambassadors are correct that the proposal in question would have been illegal for duplications and contradictions, I hope Your Excellency did not take their words too harshly and that this setback shall not discourage Your Excellency from partaking in legislative endeavours in this chamber.

If Your Excellency would take the time to read through passed resolutions and the rules and guidelines on how to write new resolutions, I am excited to see what future drafts may be presented by the Bleckonian delegation. I shall leave Your Excellency with a final word of advice: it is generally a good idea to start a debate on a draft here in this chamber and receive comments, questions and suggestions before submitting the proposal for approval."

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I think that Gender recognition has been covered as well. Like Minoa (Charlotte Ryberg), the resolutions which promote LGBT rights is patchwork legislation.