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Postby Tinfect » Wed May 04, 2016 2:15 am

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Postby Little Tralfamadore » Wed May 04, 2016 3:21 am

It is definitely a local issue. With the wide range of species it is even more a local issue.

Also why are are dues to the WA going to be used to pay those nations who allegedly can not afford to teach about reproduction?

Is there any nation in the WA who are able to afford being a WA member, who can teach their children all the other things that they teach but only need funds for reproduction education? How much woud it cost? No, with the WA providing funds for education there would be massive fraud and the possibility of control over the education

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Postby Louisistan » Wed May 04, 2016 3:32 am

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In accordance with the current standings of the regional poll, I have cast my votes against this resolution.
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Postby The Puddle Jumping Wads of Wrapper » Wed May 04, 2016 4:38 am

Nehmia wrote:
John Turner wrote:
Which is precisely why we have:

World Health Authority
Epidemic Response Act
Quality in Health Services
Infectious Disease Control

All of which cover this.


"For the reasons stated by our honoured colleague, The Grand Marshal Luther II of The Marshal State of Nehmia has instructed his Ambassador to The World Assembly to vote against the introduction of additional legislation.

Respectfully,

Ambassador Maximillian Ashworth - First Marshal of International Affairs"

ARI: Well now, that seems like a rather silly approach to things. The treatment of diseases is certainly worthy of our time, but would not combating the spread of such diseases be much more effective than just treating such diseases? Really now, the best way to combat any disease is through prevention and education, which is what this proposal aims to achieve.
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Postby Nehmia » Wed May 04, 2016 5:11 am

The Puddle Jumping Wads of Wrapper wrote:ARI: Well now, that seems like a rather silly approach to things. The treatment of diseases is certainly worthy of our time, but would not combating the spread of such diseases be much more effective than just treating such diseases? Really now, the best way to combat any disease is through prevention and education, which is what this proposal aims to achieve.


Member states are already required to identify, research, prevent, limit the spread and transmission of, treat and advise the international community of infectious diseases. As well as issue appropriate documentation for international travel certifying that an individual has taken precautions against transmission, including use of prophylaxis.

Given that there is no specific disease classification in any existing legislation, it is reasonable to expect that diseases transmitted through sexual activity are included in existing legislation.

Given, therefore, that it is an existing legislative mandate that individual nations prevent and combat the spread of such diseases and infections, it should be left to the individual nation to decide to issue a budget for education on such matters, should the nation decide that education is the appropriate method through which they wish to combat said diseases and infections.

The proposed legislation is extraneous.

Additionally, given the wide-ranging species and religious beliefs held by those represented within the World Assembly, it should equally be left to an individual nation to decide if and when to educate on reproductive activity, it is improper for the international community to impose itself upon the sovereign beliefs of member nations.

EDIT: Furthermore, GA#2, Section 1, Article 3 states that:
"Every WA Member State has the duty to refrain from unrequested intervention in the internal or external economic, political, religious, and social affairs of any other NationState, subject to the immunities recognized by international law."

It is the firm belief of this nation that the proposed legislation constitutes unrequested intervention in the internal economic, political, religious, and social affairs of all member nations. The mere proposal of this legislation is therefore considered to be a direct contravention of international law. The passing of this legislation would only compound it's illegality and illegitimacy.

Further still, GA#30 resolves that the WA "Affirms the right of all people to express their personal, moral, political, cultural, religious and ideological views freely and openly, without fear of reprisal;"

The proposed legislation is deemed to also contravene GA#30 by placing limitations on an individual states expression of moral, cultural and religious ideological views which may advocate for a limit on if and when education pertaining to reproduction is provided.


Please note,

GA#37 World Health Authority
"III) Establishes the World Health Authority (WHA), with the mission to:
-identify, assess, and communicate current and emerging threats to global health,
-actively research treatment, cures, and preventative measures concerning threats to global health,
-coordinate efforts between WA member states in preventing and controlling serious health concerns;

...

V) Strongly encourages individual nations to:
-create agencies concerned with the health of their people,
-research ways to prevent and remedy threats to decent health,
-disseminate such information in the international community in order to impede threats to decent health."

GA#53 Epidemic Response Act
"4) REQUIRES that all member nations share viruses, bacteria, and other pathogens samples with the World Health Authority EPARC so that the international community can research a vaccine and is kept abreast of developments if the disease evolves in virulence or other characteristics;"

GA#97 Quality in Health Services
"6) The health system of a nation, or any assigned political divisions, is responsible for:

a) Helping the training of health personnel;
b) Participating in the effort of eradication of endemic diseases;
c) Participating in policy formulation & implementation of basic sanitation projects.

GA#320 Infectious Disease Control
"1. Defines, for the purpose of this Resolution, “medical precautions” as vaccinations, prophylaxis, and any other necessary medical, surgical or pharmaceutical mitigation of risk;"
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Postby The Puddle Jumping Wads of Wrapper » Wed May 04, 2016 5:29 am

ARI: Yes, exactly. Research, research, research, and nothing about education. Why are you so afraid of disseminating relevant information to the populace?
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Postby Potted Plants United » Wed May 04, 2016 5:43 am

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"As our selves all know what any one of us knows, and because we are able to control our selves down to the molecular level, we find this proposal to be completely unnecessary and non-applicable. As such, we have voted against as a protest against surplus bureaucracy."

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Postby Arcdurus » Wed May 04, 2016 7:17 am

We reiterate several previous arguments that this is simply not an international issue, and encourage other nations to vote against.

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Postby Thenacia » Wed May 04, 2016 7:37 am

Arcdurus wrote:We reiterate several previous arguments that this is simply not an international issue, and encourage other nations to vote against.


One simply can abstain from voting, while this issue may not have obvious implication to a global effect but it impacts the world as a whole. The United Kingdom of Thenacia is proud of its open mindedness of many things but it can not tolerate ignorance when it comes to copulation and possible reproduction. I understand that some other nations may not see how this impacts both them and other nations but I implore you vote what you think is best for your people
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Postby Evil Eagle » Wed May 04, 2016 8:03 am

Oh look another secularist bill in healths clothing.
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Postby Tobiasia » Wed May 04, 2016 8:17 am

Through consultation throughout the nation, and troubling over the lack of knowledge in several areas of Tobiasia, in paticular the north, we have come to the conclusion that this resolution is the right thing for the world. All nations must implement this, otherwise the young shall be unprotected with little knowledge.

For the young of Tobiasia, I say Yes
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed May 04, 2016 8:37 am

Nehmia wrote:
The Puddle Jumping Wads of Wrapper wrote:ARI: Well now, that seems like a rather silly approach to things. The treatment of diseases is certainly worthy of our time, but would not combating the spread of such diseases be much more effective than just treating such diseases? Really now, the best way to combat any disease is through prevention and education, which is what this proposal aims to achieve.


Member states are already required to identify, research, prevent, limit the spread and transmission of, treat and advise the international community of infectious diseases. As well as issue appropriate documentation for international travel certifying that an individual has taken precautions against transmission, including use of prophylaxis.

Given that there is no specific disease classification in any existing legislation, it is reasonable to expect that diseases transmitted through sexual activity are included in existing legislation.

Given, therefore, that it is an existing legislative mandate that individual nations prevent and combat the spread of such diseases and infections, it should be left to the individual nation to decide to issue a budget for education on such matters, should the nation decide that education is the appropriate method through which they wish to combat said diseases and infections.

The proposed legislation is extraneous.

Additionally, given the wide-ranging species and religious beliefs held by those represented within the World Assembly, it should equally be left to an individual nation to decide if and when to educate on reproductive activity, it is improper for the international community to impose itself upon the sovereign beliefs of member nations.

EDIT: Furthermore, GA#2, Section 1, Article 3 states that:
"Every WA Member State has the duty to refrain from unrequested intervention in the internal or external economic, political, religious, and social affairs of any other NationState, subject to the immunities recognized by international law."


It is the firm belief of this nation that the proposed legislation constitutes unrequested intervention in the internal economic, political, religious, and social affairs of all member nations. The mere proposal of this legislation is therefore considered to be a direct contravention of international law. The passing of this legislation would only compound it's illegality and illegitimacy.

Further still, GA#30 resolves that the WA "Affirms the right of all people to express their personal, moral, political, cultural, religious and ideological views freely and openly, without fear of reprisal;"

The proposed legislation is deemed to also contravene GA#30 by placing limitations on an individual states expression of moral, cultural and religious ideological views which may advocate for a limit on if and when education pertaining to reproduction is provided.

Please note,

GA#37 World Health Authority
"III) Establishes the World Health Authority (WHA), with the mission to:
-identify, assess, and communicate current and emerging threats to global health,
-actively research treatment, cures, and preventative measures concerning threats to global health,
-coordinate efforts between WA member states in preventing and controlling serious health concerns;

...

V) Strongly encourages individual nations to:
-create agencies concerned with the health of their people,
-research ways to prevent and remedy threats to decent health,
-disseminate such information in the international community in order to impede threats to decent health."

GA#53 Epidemic Response Act
"4) REQUIRES that all member nations share viruses, bacteria, and other pathogens samples with the World Health Authority EPARC so that the international community can research a vaccine and is kept abreast of developments if the disease evolves in virulence or other characteristics;"

GA#97 Quality in Health Services
"6) The health system of a nation, or any assigned political divisions, is responsible for:

a) Helping the training of health personnel;
b) Participating in the effort of eradication of endemic diseases;
c) Participating in policy formulation & implementation of basic sanitation projects.

GA#320 Infectious Disease Control
"1. Defines, for the purpose of this Resolution, “medical precautions” as vaccinations, prophylaxis, and any other necessary medical, surgical or pharmaceutical mitigation of risk;"


"Firstly, GA#2 doesn't do what you are arguing it does. Yes, nations are free from unrequested intervention, but only from other WA member nations. The WA is not a member nation.

"Secondly, not one of any of those resolutions stops the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. GA#37 only instructs the WHA to combat 'threats to global health', which is a vague terms that may only apply to planetary diseases that are significant threats. It also only encourages nations to fight disease. GA#53 only applies if it is an epidemic, and at that point it is a little late, wouldn't you say? GA#97 stipulates that health systems have a duty to participate in the effort to eliminate diseases and implement basic policy on sanitation: It is hard to construe this as something that forces the health system to educate citizens on stopping the spread of infectious diseases. GA#320 only requires individuals to be given vaccinations and such against diseases they may encounter in the country they are traveling to, but not the country they are traveling from, and thus could still carry disease with them."
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Postby Tobiasia » Wed May 04, 2016 8:43 am

Excidium Planetis wrote:
Nehmia wrote:
Member states are already required to identify, research, prevent, limit the spread and transmission of, treat and advise the international community of infectious diseases. As well as issue appropriate documentation for international travel certifying that an individual has taken precautions against transmission, including use of prophylaxis.

Given that there is no specific disease classification in any existing legislation, it is reasonable to expect that diseases transmitted through sexual activity are included in existing legislation.

Given, therefore, that it is an existing legislative mandate that individual nations prevent and combat the spread of such diseases and infections, it should be left to the individual nation to decide to issue a budget for education on such matters, should the nation decide that education is the appropriate method through which they wish to combat said diseases and infections.

The proposed legislation is extraneous.

Additionally, given the wide-ranging species and religious beliefs held by those represented within the World Assembly, it should equally be left to an individual nation to decide if and when to educate on reproductive activity, it is improper for the international community to impose itself upon the sovereign beliefs of member nations.



It is the firm belief of this nation that the proposed legislation constitutes unrequested intervention in the internal economic, political, religious, and social affairs of all member nations. The mere proposal of this legislation is therefore considered to be a direct contravention of international law. The passing of this legislation would only compound it's illegality and illegitimacy.

Further still, GA#30 resolves that the WA "Affirms the right of all people to express their personal, moral, political, cultural, religious and ideological views freely and openly, without fear of reprisal;"

The proposed legislation is deemed to also contravene GA#30 by placing limitations on an individual states expression of moral, cultural and religious ideological views which may advocate for a limit on if and when education pertaining to reproduction is provided.

Please note,

GA#37 World Health Authority
"III) Establishes the World Health Authority (WHA), with the mission to:
-identify, assess, and communicate current and emerging threats to global health,
-actively research treatment, cures, and preventative measures concerning threats to global health,
-coordinate efforts between WA member states in preventing and controlling serious health concerns;

...

V) Strongly encourages individual nations to:
-create agencies concerned with the health of their people,
-research ways to prevent and remedy threats to decent health,
-disseminate such information in the international community in order to impede threats to decent health."

GA#53 Epidemic Response Act
"4) REQUIRES that all member nations share viruses, bacteria, and other pathogens samples with the World Health Authority EPARC so that the international community can research a vaccine and is kept abreast of developments if the disease evolves in virulence or other characteristics;"

GA#97 Quality in Health Services
"6) The health system of a nation, or any assigned political divisions, is responsible for:

a) Helping the training of health personnel;
b) Participating in the effort of eradication of endemic diseases;
c) Participating in policy formulation & implementation of basic sanitation projects.

GA#320 Infectious Disease Control
"1. Defines, for the purpose of this Resolution, “medical precautions” as vaccinations, prophylaxis, and any other necessary medical, surgical or pharmaceutical mitigation of risk;"


"Firstly, GA#2 doesn't do what you are arguing it does. Yes, nations are free from unrequested intervention, but only from other WA member nations. The WA is not a member nation.

"Secondly, not one of any of those resolutions stops the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. GA#37 only instructs the WHA to combat 'threats to global health', which is a vague terms that may only apply to planetary diseases that are significant threats. It also only encourages nations to fight disease. GA#53 only applies if it is an epidemic, and at that point it is a little late, wouldn't you say? GA#97 stipulates that health systems have a duty to participate in the effort to eliminate diseases and implement basic policy on sanitation: It is hard to construe this as something that forces the health system to educate citizens on stopping the spread of infectious diseases. GA#320 only requires individuals to be given vaccinations and such against diseases they may encounter in the country they are traveling to, but not the country they are traveling from, and thus could still carry disease with them."


Additionally if this motion is blocked it may provide barriers in the way of the WHA to help prevent STD's through spreading knowledge about them. We need as much support as we can for the WHA's work and this motion will help.
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Postby Losthaven » Wed May 04, 2016 10:29 am

Voted against, mostly because Wallenburger's ambassador accuses my animal rights proposal of being "not an international issue" yet is pursuing legislation that will tell local school boards how to instruct children on reproductive health.

So: Against, because hypocrisy is bad.
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Postby Obamas Titty » Wed May 04, 2016 10:38 am

How do I vote for these? can anyone help?

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Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed May 04, 2016 11:38 am

Obnoxious Name wrote:How do I vote for these? can anyone help?


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Postby Wallenburg » Wed May 04, 2016 12:17 pm

Tinfect wrote:OOC:
Wallenburg, if you want this to pass, grab IA's Communique API, and get a delegate-targeted campaign. Also see if you can't target the voters of 10,000 Islands, their delegate still votes based on regional opinion if memory serves, and would be quite valuable in getting this passed.

I'll see what I can do about 10KI, but I already campaigned the delegates for approvals. I don't want to spam them. Besides, I don't think I'll need a campaign at this point.
Losthaven wrote:Voted against, mostly because Wallenburger's ambassador accuses my animal rights proposal of being "not an international issue" yet is pursuing legislation that will tell local school boards how to instruct children on reproductive health.

So: Against, because hypocrisy is bad.

I am not a hypocrite. Animal rights are not an international issue. Health and education are.
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Postby Cybraxia » Wed May 04, 2016 2:49 pm

"It would seem the votes did a 180 or something, because there are quite a bit more FOR this resolution. I've also cast my vote FOR as well.

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Postby Reti » Wed May 04, 2016 2:57 pm

Paul Conerly swiftly stands and takes a single step forward, taking a powerful stance but leaving the crowd surprised at his quiet and unusually calm tone. "As Prime Minister and thus representative of The United People of Reti, it is of course my duty to recite my peoples' final decision to you - the rest of the world - However, it would seem that this particular resolution is lacking to many within Reti, though most agree with the general message, we also feel that youth should be educated not only on reproductive activities, but also parenthood regardless of whether or not they plan to become a parent. Personally, I feel this resolution is a step in the wrong direction, we need to teach our youth only what can practically be applied to the real world. Now the question rises, what's more practical - Teaching our youth to safely reproduce - or - Teaching our youth to raise our future generation of youth? My question to you - Why must it come to this? Why must we choose between both of these, as both have practical application. We are against this resolution, unless it will be amended." Paul Conerly steps back and sits down, awaiting a reply.
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Postby Araraukar » Wed May 04, 2016 3:56 pm

Reti wrote:"We are against this resolution, unless it will be amended." Paul Conerly steps back and sits down, awaiting a reply.

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Postby Ravon » Wed May 04, 2016 5:52 pm

I rise to support this bill. It is important that our students are able to learn about sex to avoid STD's, to clarify false information about sex, and to enhance education for our kids.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed May 04, 2016 7:14 pm

Ravon wrote:I rise to support this bill. It is important that our students are able to learn about sex to avoid STD's, to clarify false information about sex, and to enhance education for our kids.

And they can do that without having this resolution.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed May 04, 2016 7:31 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Ravon wrote:I rise to support this bill. It is important that our students are able to learn about sex to avoid STD's, to clarify false information about sex, and to enhance education for our kids.

And they can do that without having this resolution.

Just like member states can defend against treatment-resistant microbes without "Preserving Antimicrobials"?
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Postby Bad Libertopia » Wed May 04, 2016 7:36 pm

Our nation's "biology relevant to reproduction" include the proprietary trade secrets of GeniusBaby and Eugenomics and the other genetic engineering firms in our nation. This resolution is just an attempt by the WA to steal our technology!
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed May 04, 2016 7:37 pm

Bad Libertopia wrote:Our nation's "biology relevant to reproduction" include the proprietary trade secrets of GeniusBaby and Eugenomics and the other genetic engineering firms in our nation. This resolution is just an attempt by the WA to steal our technology!

"The World Assembly gains no access to this education, Ambassador. Only the people in your nation do."
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