General Sports Roleplaying Questions (OOC)

[Ontorisa]

Would anyone be interested in an NSSports News Front? It would be mostly consisting of sports stories that nations think that would be cool for others to read. For example: Bigtopia could post something like the Big City Hamburgers winning the Big Hockey Cup for the third time in a row while Tinyland could say this young, promising football/soccer prospect is currently interested in going professional in bigger leagues. This could lead to other countries expanding on the interest of signing Player X.

So yeah, a bit confusing to explain, but would anyone be interested?

[Gregoryisgodistan]

Would anyone be interested in an NSSports News Front? It would be mostly consisting of sports stories that nations think that would be cool for others to read. For example: Bigtopia could post something like the Big City Hamburgers winning the Big Hockey Cup for the third time in a row while Tinyland could say this young, promising football/soccer prospect is currently interested in going professional in bigger leagues. This could lead to other countries expanding on the interest of signing Player X.

So yeah, a bit confusing to explain, but would anyone be interested?

That's what we have newswires for. They're already a thing.

[Ontorisa]

Would anyone be interested in an NSSports News Front? It would be mostly consisting of sports stories that nations think that would be cool for others to read. For example: Bigtopia could post something like the Big City Hamburgers winning the Big Hockey Cup for the third time in a row while Tinyland could say this young, promising football/soccer prospect is currently interested in going professional in bigger leagues. This could lead to other countries expanding on the interest of signing Player X.

So yeah, a bit confusing to explain, but would anyone be interested?

That's what we have newswires for. They're already a thing.

Hang on, are we talking about newswires like this or more like this

[Gregoryisgodistan]

That's what we have newswires for. They're already a thing.

Hang on, are we talking about newswires like this or more like this

Both.

[Ontorisa]

Hang on, are we talking about newswires like this or more like this

Both.

Oh. That's awkward, I feel like an idiot now.

Well do we at least have a joint newswire for ice hockey?

[Kazirstan]

I have a predicament. My country is committed to the principles of equality, ensuring no worker is paid any significant amount more than any other worker. How do I ensure that the most skilled athletes from my nation stay in my nation, even though they will be payed significantly less? What kind of incentives can I use to keep skilled athletes home (and possibly attract foreign ones), without elevating them to a position above the average citizen?

[Ontorisa]

I have a predicament. My country is committed to the principles of equality, ensuring no worker is paid any significant amount more than any other worker. How do I ensure that the most skilled athletes from my nation stay in my nation, even though they will be payed significantly less? What kind of incentives can I use to keep skilled athletes home (and possibly attract foreign ones), without elevating them to a position above the average citizen?

That's actually really difficult because that roughly translates you paying some 34 year old depth player the same as a young superstar. You'll probably have to break those rules for athletes. If not, you'll probably be stuck with your own athletes and some foreign players (probably those who want to play and get paid a bit for it).

Sorry man. I'm sure someone else here would have a better idea on how to get past this however.

[Gregoryisgodistan]

I have a predicament. My country is committed to the principles of equality, ensuring no worker is paid any significant amount more than any other worker. How do I ensure that the most skilled athletes from my nation stay in my nation, even though they will be payed significantly less? What kind of incentives can I use to keep skilled athletes home (and possibly attract foreign ones), without elevating them to a position above the average citizen?

That's actually really difficult because that roughly translates you paying some 34 year old depth player the same as a young superstar. You'll probably have to break those rules for athletes. If not, you'll probably be stuck with your own athletes and some foreign players (probably those who want to play and get paid a bit for it).

Sorry man. I'm sure someone else here would have a better idea on how to get past this however.

Ban them from leaving the country without permission, and don't grant it except to participate in tournaments. Sort of like Cuba. Or my nation.
Or really, think of any IC reason you want, because others can't RP them leaving your nation without your permission. But I'm guessing you knew that and just wanted help figuring out an IC reason.

[Kazirstan]

That's actually really difficult because that roughly translates you paying some 34 year old depth player the same as a young superstar. You'll probably have to break those rules for athletes. If not, you'll probably be stuck with your own athletes and some foreign players (probably those who want to play and get paid a bit for it).

Sorry man. I'm sure someone else here would have a better idea on how to get past this however.

Ban them from leaving the country without permission, and don't grant it except to participate in tournaments. Sort of like Cuba. Or my nation.
Or really, think of any IC reason you want, because others can't RP them leaving your nation without your permission. But I'm guessing you knew that and just wanted help figuring out an IC reason.

Yeah, I considered that, but I don't want to be too authoritarian. That may also disincentivise people from becoming athletes, knowing that they will be unable to leave the country.

[The Saint James Islands]

talking about newswires like this

Oh. That's awkward, I feel like an idiot now.

Well do we at least have a joint newswire for ice hockey?

Don't feel bad. Better to ask and look foolish than to not ask and never know.

As for an international ice hockey newswire, this might be what you're looking for. I could easily be wrong, though. It wouldn't be the first time...

[Gregoryisgodistan]

Ban them from leaving the country without permission, and don't grant it except to participate in tournaments. Sort of like Cuba. Or my nation.
Or really, think of any IC reason you want, because others can't RP them leaving your nation without your permission. But I'm guessing you knew that and just wanted help figuring out an IC reason.

Yeah, I considered that, but I don't want to be too authoritarian. That may also disincentivise people from becoming athletes, knowing that they will be unable to leave the country.

Then do it to everyone. That's what I do. Or pay everyone 500 billion dollars. Never mind that the economics behind that won't work. They make sense to socialists. Or at least, extreme, crazy socialists. So if that's what you're going for, it might work.

[Ontorisa]

Yeah, I considered that, but I don't want to be too authoritarian. That may also disincentivise people from becoming athletes, knowing that they will be unable to leave the country.

Then do it to everyone. That's what I do. Or pay everyone 500 billion dollars. Never mind that the economics behind that won't work. They make sense to socialists. Or at least, extreme, crazy socialists. So if that's what you're going for, it might work.

I'll keep that in mind if you want one of my prospects. I'm not wasting talent in your leagues

EDIT:

Wait, I've already wasted talent in Vermark's leagues. Awkward~

[Osarius]

I have a predicament. My country is committed to the principles of equality, ensuring no worker is paid any significant amount more than any other worker. How do I ensure that the most skilled athletes from my nation stay in my nation, even though they will be payed significantly less? What kind of incentives can I use to keep skilled athletes home (and possibly attract foreign ones), without elevating them to a position above the average citizen?

First thought to come to mind is tax breaks.
I think the Netherlands IRL does this with skilled workers from overseas. They get a reduced tax rate (or rebate, whatever) because taxation in the Netherlands is... sort of high. I vaguely remember looking into this earlier this year when I considered moving there.

Or maybe have the teams/leagues implement some kind of internal, supplementary "benefit" system based on merit, or an "expenses" allowance on top of salary.

That way, technically the athletes don't actually get paid more. They just have some perks relating to their jobs which allow their employers to be competitive in a global market. Much like how a politician or a diplomat might have perks relating to their jobs which could be explained away as necessities for their line of work (diplomatic immunity, anyone?), I see no issue with allowing a club to cover a player's expenses relating to training, for example.

It's not unfair to say that the cost of training an elite athlete is normally quite high. If the players are being paid at something near the national mean, it would probably be unfeasible to sustain, perhaps. However, having the clubs cover those costs frees up a lot of the player's income, and gives scope for his non-salaried "wage" (technically not a wage, because it is never paid to him/her) to technically include, for example: travel costs to and from training, a dietary allowance (to ensure the player is eating appropriately healthily), home training equipment (to supplement team training) etc etc. You could potentially go even further and say the club covers ALL regular expenses (such as rent, etc) to ensure the player has no distractions from their training (like a military academy might) would. If you remove the cost of travel, accomodation and food from ANYONE'S monthly outgoings, their disposable income probably doubles at the minimum. For me, personally... it would almost quadruple.

So overall, I suppose it would depend mostly on how strictly your government enforces these principles (if at all) or how much scrutiny would be applied to companies. Equally, I would imagine this is how a corporation would get around that kind of sanction, too. If I can't pay my CEO more money to keep him/her here, instead of going to a multinational corporation that can double his salary, I would just find non-salaried incentives to offer him/her that might match or even outweigh the benefit of a better salary (particularly after taxation).

[The Archregimancy]

I have a predicament. My country is committed to the principles of equality, ensuring no worker is paid any significant amount more than any other worker. How do I ensure that the most skilled athletes from my nation stay in my nation, even though they will be payed significantly less? What kind of incentives can I use to keep skilled athletes home (and possibly attract foreign ones), without elevating them to a position above the average citizen?

The actual solution is entirely up to you.

However, it strikes me that most of the solutions you've been offered are overthinking the problem. The easiest in-character solution is to simply have your athletes believe and participate in the ideology of equality that drives your nation's government; they therefore don't want to live anywhere else. In other words, they consider support for a positive ideology more important than mere monetary gain. As you've pointed out here, your government isn't authoritarian, so presumably it's supported by your nation's citizens.

There's ample precedent for this sort of thing in NS Sports, dating all the way back to Ariddia and Errinundera in the earliest days of sporting activity in NS.

[Ontorisa]

Oh hey, Arch posted here. Hi!

Anyways, anyone want a couple of free 2nd Round prospects for their hockey leagues?

[Liventia]

Oh hey, Arch posted here. Hi!

Anyways, anyone want a couple of free 2nd Round prospects for their hockey leagues?

This really isn't the thread to ask that.

[Nephara]

That's like asking, "why does anyone write anything that isn't fantasy or science fiction?"

I don't really think there needs to be an answer to that. It's as solid a platform as any for storytelling.

[Northern Sunrise Islands]

Ban them from leaving the country without permission, and don't grant it except to participate in tournaments. Sort of like Cuba. Or my nation.
Or really, think of any IC reason you want, because others can't RP them leaving your nation without your permission. But I'm guessing you knew that and just wanted help figuring out an IC reason.

Yeah, I considered that, but I don't want to be too authoritarian. That may also disincentivise people from becoming athletes, knowing that they will be unable to leave the country.

Arriving a bit late to it and just sort of giving a shot at what I'd do to justify such a thing... Well, making the scenery for their sports pretty big. I think that if, like, you are a great athlete, you'd get a lot of fame and y'know, there's a lot of people that are suckers for that.

Either that or just have it all amateur. It's hard to imagine a way where that would work, honestly.

[New West Guiana]

For several months now i've been looking at the golf scorin and have played around with it, but what does the "differential" mean? I looked it up and the definition was in very technical terms to which for me means i'm reading but still haven't a clue.

[Commerce Heights]

For several months now i've been looking at the golf scorin and have played around with it, but what does the "differential" mean? I looked it up and the definition was in very technical terms to which for me means i'm reading but still haven't a clue.

Differential, a number between -0.7 and +0.7; see below. This reflects the difficulty of the hole, plus being harder than minus.

[…]

Differential

The most difficult part of putting in a custom course is good numbers for difficulty. All par threes (or fours, or fives) are not created equal. Good differentials give a course life.

• Be sparing with large pluses, and even more sparing with large minuses.
• Par threes don't generally see large swings either way.
• Par fours may run the gamut of differentials, and are the most likely places for a big plus.
• Tend to concentrate your minuses, especially your largest ones, on par fives.
• Add up your differentials for all 18 holes when done. Routine tour stops should total up in the -1.00 to +1.00 range. Harder tour stops will run +1.00 to perhaps +2.50; courses tricked out for major championships might start around +3.00 and run up into the mid-fours.

[Holy Marsh]

I've got an unusual question that I think could get several answers as it relates to sports. It could even make for an interesting/slightly funny RP as well.

A while ago, the Grand Theocracy of the Holy Marsh underwent a dramatic change socially- feel free to click and leave a reaction. Internally this changed rather little- the Theocracy has always been equal and sports were based on skill, not gender or sex. But internationally, this begs the question- would the Theocracy's men national team in, say, the world cup, still be considered the men's national team? Large question: What gender or sex would you/your competition/organization/NS Sports classify them as?

[Barunia]

I've got an unusual question that I think could get several answers as it relates to sports. It could even make for an interesting/slightly funny RP as well.

A while ago, the Grand Theocracy of the Holy Marsh underwent a dramatic change socially- feel free to click and leave a reaction. Internally this changed rather little- the Theocracy has always been equal and sports were based on skill, not gender or sex. But internationally, this begs the question- would the Theocracy's men national team in, say, the world cup, still be considered the men's national team? Large question: What gender or sex would you/your competition/organization/NS Sports classify them as?

The question is irrelevant within the context of NS Sports, as (with the exception of the Olympics) all the major tournaments, including the world cup, are open to competitors of all genders. Only allowing single gender teams doesn't make much sense when you consider that the World Cup has seen teams of sapient animals and giant jumping beans.

[Kazirstan]

What is a style modifier? And what does it do?

[Costa Aluria]

What is a style modifier? And what does it do?

A style modifier gives a scorinator more information about your team, specifically how aggressively/defensively they might play. Lower numbers (including negatives) generally indicate that your team plays quite conservatively and relies on defense, which likely means a lower score but also less points given up. A higher number generally indicates aggressive offense at the expense of a poor defense, and usually will allow more points to be scored and scored upon.

[Kazirstan]

What is a style modifier? And what does it do?

A style modifier gives a scorinator more information about your team, specifically how aggressively/defensively they might play. Lower numbers (including negatives) generally indicate that your team plays quite conservatively and relies on defense, which likely means a lower score but also less points given up. A higher number generally indicates aggressive offense at the expense of a poor defense, and usually will allow more points to be scored and scored upon.

Many thanks!