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Postby Starblaydia » Sat May 16, 2015 9:53 pm

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Bears Armed wrote:What about the DBC?

Given that the host is pre-determined for that, what announcements actually need to be made?

Also that it isn't under the purview of the WCC any more than, for example, the Runner Cup is, even though it has a half-claim to being an actual World Cup.
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Postby Northern Sunrise Islands » Mon May 18, 2015 9:07 pm

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I think that pro wrestling would fit better here than in another NS forum, notwithstanding the difference in "scoring". The proposed method sounds fun and true to its sport. Depending on the frequency of cards, you might want to change out bookers quarterly or even more often. Suggestion: Give one vote for the next booker to each "member nation" plus one or more extra votes for each card to which that nation contributed one or more RPs. That will give regular contributors a little more influence over series direction.

That'd be an ever-changing GM hot seat, I'd imagine, but actually a pretty good idea - sharing the wealth and all that.

You'd expect Pro Wrestling to find a natural home on NS Sports, but the scorination (or lack thereof, following RL) is the tricky part which you've solved by having the position of booker. The only issue is then people RPing around that, but that's the same with every sports competition, only with a twist: the booker writes the show, then everyone else goes and writes what the booker has already written.

So just be careful that the way the results are posted leaves room for people to RP within them - "X def. Y" rather than "X def Y with Boring Superkick after 18 seconds".


I... sorta recall this one program I had on my old netbook that simulated wrestling matches via text. Can't really remember the name, but I'll look for it tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, I think it was Pro Wrestling Random-something.
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Postby Nekoni » Tue May 19, 2015 11:42 am

Is there anyone actively doing motorsport? I haven't seen one with life in it for ages.
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Postby Liventia » Tue May 19, 2015 1:05 pm

Nekoni wrote:Is there anyone actively doing motorsport? I haven't seen one with life in it for ages.

I've been approached by two people I trust asking to take over the WGPC – the ball is in their court, so to speak. (The chequered flag is in their hands?)
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Postby Gaira » Thu May 21, 2015 9:00 am

Starblaydia wrote:
Solandiacana wrote:What is a scorinator?


A scorinator is a program or spreadsheet that generates scores for NS sports tournaments. Usually either created in Microsoft Excel or OpenOffice, or written in a programming language such as Java, it creates random scorelines based (usually) on a team's rank, playing style (either offensive or defensive) and occasionally any roleplay bonus.

'Scorinate' on NSwiki and the World Cup FAQs section on How are scores generated? may help explain in a little more detail.
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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Thu May 21, 2015 9:02 am

Gaira wrote:
Starblaydia wrote:
A scorinator is a program or spreadsheet that generates scores for NS sports tournaments. Usually either created in Microsoft Excel or OpenOffice, or written in a programming language such as Java, it creates random scorelines based (usually) on a team's rank, playing style (either offensive or defensive) and occasionally any roleplay bonus.

'Scorinate' on NSwiki and the World Cup FAQs section on How are scores generated? may help explain in a little more detail.
where is the threadto sign ups? can someone please link to me that place?


Each tournament has its own signup thread. Currently, the only tournament with signups open is a tennis tournament, which isn't as active as many other sports on this forum, but signups for the soccer World Cup should open within the next few weeks once someone submits a bid to host.

Edit: Actually, the Di Bradini (U-21) World Cup has signups open too, which I forgot about. Click here. That's more active than the tennis tournaments, though still not as active as the real World Cup.
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Postby Free Republics » Thu May 21, 2015 9:17 am

Gregoryisgodistan wrote:
Gaira wrote: where is the threadto sign ups? can someone please link to me that place?


Each tournament has its own signup thread. Currently, the only tournament with signups open is a tennis tournament, which isn't as active as many other sports on this forum, but signups for the soccer World Cup should open within the next few weeks once someone submits a bid to host.

Edit: Actually, the Di Bradini (U-21) World Cup has signups open too, which I forgot about. Click here. That's more active than the tennis tournaments, though still not as active as the real World Cup.


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Postby Candy Van » Thu May 21, 2015 5:49 pm

Is there app versions for the scorinatiors and other needed things, cause I'm generally on an iPad most of the time.

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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Thu May 21, 2015 6:13 pm

Candy Van wrote:Is there app versions for the scorinatiors and other needed things, cause I'm generally on an iPad most of the time.

No. But you should be able to access the forums through the iPad.
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Postby The SLAGLands » Mon May 25, 2015 10:48 pm

Free Republics wrote:While we're on the subject of what is and is not a sport, I'd like to ask for opinions regarding whether professional wrestling (with wrestlers from NS nations) would be appropriate for NS Sports or whether it'd fit in better in the NationStates sub-forum. I intend to move forward with an international pro wrestling federation after the end of my current RP arc with this nation, assuming sufficient interest, and would look to "scorinate" it in a realistic manner (in other words, a booker, elected every few months in a manner similar to the election of hosts, would make matches and pick the winners and losers). I certainly wouldn't recommend that method for any sport that is supposed to be competitive rather than pre-determined, of course.


Yo, anyone moving on this? Because I am super down and was looking around for pretty much the exact same sort of thing. "Scorination" could happen via card position or merchandise sales or something like that, or you could make it more formal like WWE's Power Rankings. Or the scoring might even fluctuate with tournaments and the like--a round-robin one like New Japan's G1 Climax, a straight tourney like King of the Ring, etc.

Basically I really really really want someone to do this but I don't want to step on anyone's toes so if no one's going forward maybe I'll pick it up?
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Postby The Archregimancy » Thu May 28, 2015 2:10 pm

The SLAGLands wrote:
Free Republics wrote:While we're on the subject of what is and is not a sport, I'd like to ask for opinions regarding whether professional wrestling (with wrestlers from NS nations) would be appropriate for NS Sports or whether it'd fit in better in the NationStates sub-forum. I intend to move forward with an international pro wrestling federation after the end of my current RP arc with this nation, assuming sufficient interest, and would look to "scorinate" it in a realistic manner (in other words, a booker, elected every few months in a manner similar to the election of hosts, would make matches and pick the winners and losers). I certainly wouldn't recommend that method for any sport that is supposed to be competitive rather than pre-determined, of course.


Yo, anyone moving on this? Because I am super down and was looking around for pretty much the exact same sort of thing. "Scorination" could happen via card position or merchandise sales or something like that, or you could make it more formal like WWE's Power Rankings. Or the scoring might even fluctuate with tournaments and the like--a round-robin one like New Japan's G1 Climax, a straight tourney like King of the Ring, etc.

Basically I really really really want someone to do this but I don't want to step on anyone's toes so if no one's going forward maybe I'll pick it up?


I don't see why you shouldn't give it a go.

If you were a total newbie, you could likely expect some resistance to trying a non-traditional means of scorination, but the magic words 'antiquity' and 'retired moderator' should protect you from the worst of the counter-reaction from the more... erm... enthuasiastic forum participants. That you're not necessarily a familiar face in Sports might lead to some reluctance to participate, but try not to be discouraged if sign-ups are low.

But ultimately, scorination is a forum convention, not a forum requirement, so there's scope for trying new means of generating results.

And I'm already on record as saying that professional wrestling can fit in Sports.

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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Thu May 28, 2015 2:30 pm

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Free Republics wrote:While we're on the subject of what is and is not a sport, I'd like to ask for opinions regarding whether professional wrestling (with wrestlers from NS nations) would be appropriate for NS Sports or whether it'd fit in better in the NationStates sub-forum. I intend to move forward with an international pro wrestling federation after the end of my current RP arc with this nation, assuming sufficient interest, and would look to "scorinate" it in a realistic manner (in other words, a booker, elected every few months in a manner similar to the election of hosts, would make matches and pick the winners and losers). I certainly wouldn't recommend that method for any sport that is supposed to be competitive rather than pre-determined, of course.


Yo, anyone moving on this? Because I am super down and was looking around for pretty much the exact same sort of thing. "Scorination" could happen via card position or merchandise sales or something like that, or you could make it more formal like WWE's Power Rankings. Or the scoring might even fluctuate with tournaments and the like--a round-robin one like New Japan's G1 Climax, a straight tourney like King of the Ring, etc.

Basically I really really really want someone to do this but I don't want to step on anyone's toes so if no one's going forward maybe I'll pick it up?



I think that you should probably ask FFR first as a courtesy seeing as this was his idea and my understanding was he planned to start it himself, but if it's OK with him, I personally have no objection to it.
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Postby The SLAGLands » Thu May 28, 2015 2:53 pm

Yeah, I'm good for it. :) I had actually been thinking of getting something similar started, but I figured I should check here as a courtesy--don't want to step on anybody's toes. It'd probably be better if FFR took care of it since he's obviously more familiar with the way y'all do things ("Antiquity" in my case means "before John Kerry was running for President").
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri May 29, 2015 7:06 pm

Does NationStates have a PGA-style tournament where each nation submits players and they compete for points in each tournament each time, or would xkoranate support something like that?
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Postby Ceni » Sat May 30, 2015 9:37 am

Scorinate definitely supports something like that - it's just different results for different events.
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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Sat May 30, 2015 9:41 am

Ceni wrote:Scorinate definitely supports something like that - it's just different results for different events.


And then the ranking system could be handled the same way any other ranking system is.
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Postby Arcantova » Sun May 31, 2015 3:01 pm

I don't think anyone has asked this before, so I will now.

Someone might call me a nerd for this, but I feel the need to ask as I have thought of this before. So, as a member of the marching band world, I am an avid supporter that marching band is a sport, especially when you reach the level known as drum corps. There is even a "major league" for drum corps called DCI (google it if you feel like it). That being said, if anyone (like this guy) were wanting to host a drum corps style competition...would that fit in NS Sports?

I have already thought the idea through before, and have an idea for putting together a scorinator. There are scores involved in the competition, touring possibilities, and a way to tie in RP'ing bonuses. I personally believe it fits the criteria, but as a band member for five years, I am aware that other people think differently. Just curious how the NS community feels before moving forward with any plans.
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Postby Liventia » Sun May 31, 2015 3:12 pm

It's been done before in this forum (so yes, it would go in NS Sports). It hasn't taken place for a while now, though.
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Postby Arcantova » Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:22 am

I have searched through and found a few attempts at Drum Corps competitions in the NS Sport Forums. That being said, I do have intent to do a drum corps competition on this forum since it does appear to be considered suitable for this forum.
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Postby Eastern Sunrise Islands » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:24 pm

The SLAGLands wrote:
Free Republics wrote:While we're on the subject of what is and is not a sport, I'd like to ask for opinions regarding whether professional wrestling (with wrestlers from NS nations) would be appropriate for NS Sports or whether it'd fit in better in the NationStates sub-forum. I intend to move forward with an international pro wrestling federation after the end of my current RP arc with this nation, assuming sufficient interest, and would look to "scorinate" it in a realistic manner (in other words, a booker, elected every few months in a manner similar to the election of hosts, would make matches and pick the winners and losers). I certainly wouldn't recommend that method for any sport that is supposed to be competitive rather than pre-determined, of course.


Yo, anyone moving on this? Because I am super down and was looking around for pretty much the exact same sort of thing. "Scorination" could happen via card position or merchandise sales or something like that, or you could make it more formal like WWE's Power Rankings. Or the scoring might even fluctuate with tournaments and the like--a round-robin one like New Japan's G1 Climax, a straight tourney like King of the Ring, etc.

Basically I really really really want someone to do this but I don't want to step on anyone's toes so if no one's going forward maybe I'll pick it up?


Well, what we could have is have like two or three months of shows and then actually have a Cup with the top four or something to determine the federation's Major champion while the others to follow would go onto some side event for the Minor trophy. How we'd do tags and stuff on the other hand and the eventual unique matches like a Battle Royal would be rather fun to come up, tbh.
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Postby San Llera » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:19 pm

Anybody interested in a water polo tournament? Is there a currently existing water polo tournament?
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Postby Osarius » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:38 am

Eastern Sunrise Islands wrote:How we'd do tags and stuff on the other hand and the eventual unique matches like a Battle Royal would be rather fun to come up, tbh.

Imagining a battle royale to operate like the royal rumble, I had an idea for that (but I was planning to use it for a more MMA style combat thing I had plans for). Got half way through building something for it, based on NSFS, but never finished it. Got stuck on something... can't remember what.

Might dig it out later and see if I can finish it.
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Postby Ceni » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:18 am

San Llera wrote:Anybody interested in a water polo tournament? Is there a currently existing water polo tournament?

Besides the Olympics, none that I know of.

If I were to run such a thing, I'd probably do it with some other aquatics events, but that's just me.
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Postby Cosumar » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:24 am

Ceni wrote:
San Llera wrote:Anybody interested in a water polo tournament? Is there a currently existing water polo tournament?

Besides the Olympics, none that I know of.

If I were to run such a thing, I'd probably do it with some other aquatics events, but that's just me.

Civil Citizenry ran a couple editions of an aquatic sports event a few years back. It was called the Water World Championships or something like that. It was actually moderately successful iirc, so you could conceivably try something similar, perhaps with water polo as the centerpiece.
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Postby Wray » Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:28 am

Cosumar wrote:
Ceni wrote:Besides the Olympics, none that I know of.

If I were to run such a thing, I'd probably do it with some other aquatics events, but that's just me.

Civil Citizenry ran a couple editions of an aquatic sports event a few years back. It was called the Water World Championships or something like that. It was actually moderately successful iirc, so you could conceivably try something similar, perhaps with water polo as the centerpiece.


I was considering holding some sort of Rowing event at some point over the summer (probably July) - perhaps they could be combined some how?

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