Scorinators (OOC Discussion)

[Grimmly]

Hi there just starting out using scorinators but committed to figuring this thing out. So i downloaded NSFS3 and want to use it to try and do a national league to get my feet wet before i attempt anything out in the real world. But while trying to use the "new league" setting I'm lost as to what the "rank setting" or "max rank" thing for each team? I've created my team names/rosters/ages/postions but I'm not quite sure how the style settings for teams and ranks affect them? Any helps is greatly appreciated. You can post here or TG me if possible (i check it on my phone alot) Thanks Guys!

[Barunia]

Hi there just starting out using scorinators but committed to figuring this thing out. So i downloaded NSFS3 and want to use it to try and do a national league to get my feet wet before i attempt anything out in the real world. But while trying to use the "new league" setting I'm lost as to what the "rank setting" or "max rank" thing for each team? I've created my team names/rosters/ages/postions but I'm not quite sure how the style settings for teams and ranks affect them? Any helps is greatly appreciated. You can post here or TG me if possible (i check it on my phone alot) Thanks Guys!

Rank (or skill) is basically how good your team is. For example a team with a rank of 10 is more likely to win over a team with a rank of 1, than over another team of 10. Does not guarantee it though, as randomness is a factor in scoring.

Max rank is basically the highest rank you can get. So if it is set to 10, then a team with 10 rank is very, very good. If the max was set to 100, then a team of 10 is pretty weak.

Player's names, positions, ages or other IC info is not factored into scorination.

[Grimmly]

ahhh gotcha. That's what I thought it was but i was just making sure. And would I be correct to assume that as far as style goes its a scale from -5 to +5 (ultra def to ultra off) ?

[Free Republics]

ahhh gotcha. That's what I thought it was but i was just making sure. And would I be correct to assume that as far as style goes its a scale from -5 to +5 (ultra def to ultra off) ?

Correct. A team with a negative 5 style will, on average, score less and concede less. A team with a positive 5 style will, on average, score more and concede more.

[Grimmly]

Thanks guys! its been a lot of help. Hopefully you all enjoy and read my national league news!

[The Gulf Empire]

I have a question for you about Miscellanator v1-08 and reading the scorination results:

These were my results and do you know what each of these numbers mean, which one is my number of scored goals, and such

TEAM 1: 4-8-27-8 1.11.8 (47)

TEAM 2: 4-7-17-8 0.9.9 (36)

Thanks, this is my first time using a scorinator. Thanks

[Noburu Taiyou]

I have a question for you about Miscellanator v1-08 and reading the scorination results:

These were my results and do you know what each of these numbers mean, which one is my number of scored goals, and such

TEAM 1: 4-8-27-8 1.11.8 (47)

TEAM 2: 4-7-17-8 0.9.9 (36)

Thanks, this is my first time using a scorinator. Thanks

That's an International Rules Football score. International Rules Football is a cross between Australian football and Gaelic football.

Miscellenator cannot handle association football (soccer). It can scorinate Babbage, Curling, American football (Gridiron), Handball, International Rules, Quidditch and Ultimate.

According to Wikipedia, the ways to score in International Rules are:

Goals (6 points)
Overs (3 points)
Behinds (1 point)

The number in parentheses are obviously the total points scored. The parts separated by "-" are the linescores from each of the 4 quarters of the match. The parts separated by "." are in the form of Goals.Overs.Behinds. So, Team 1 scored a goal, 11 overs and 8 behinds (47 points) while Team 2 scored 9 overs and 9 behinds (36 points).

[Rejistania]

Hi,

sorry to butt in here, but I want to sim the HxSR and I wonder something: is there anything in regards to modern scorinators that has a bit of automation like leagion did? So that the standings of the league could immediately sim thecup for the next season?

[Legalese]

Hi,

sorry to butt in here, but I want to sim the HxSR and I wonder something: is there anything in regards to modern scorinators that has a bit of automation like leagion did? So that the standings of the league could immediately sim thecup for the next season?

Rejis! Long time no see

Strictly speaking, using the standings from xkoranate won't help you sim the cup. What you could do, however, is save the xml file created when you create your league (the gui handles it for most, but you can take the saved xml and modify it in a text editor, ala NSFS v. 2.x) and re-load it into xkoranate, but change the settings in the gui to run single matches rather than round-robin play. Then you just go ahead and randomize the matchups from there, and you're good to go (for that round, at least).

[Yellow Yellow Red]

Are there any mac friendly scorinators?

[The Arendellenske Union]

Are there any mac friendly scorinators?

If you have Java and a .dmg, the two biggest scorinators, NSFS and Xkorante, should be available.

[Buyan]

Xkoronate problem here and a rather strange one if you ask me.

I usually use the same file for all my football competitions over and over. Yesterday I scorinated my cup and saved it -as usual at the end of a session-. Today, I scorinated my competition. I set up the league and started, MD by MD, to scorinate them. I didn't save in between, but ok. All well during the first five days but when I pushed the button for MD6, something strange happened. It did scorinate the right games, but added them to a different table. More exactly, the table of the last season (with different teams and so on) I scorinated. But when you look to the first five MDs or the 'set up groups', nothing is wrong. I'm especially baffled over an old league returning, even though it isn't the last thing I saved on that file. Anyone who knows what happened and with a solution that prevents me of rescorinating the first five MDs?

Edit: or would just rescorinating MD5 save me? (*editedit: answer is no, I discovered)

Editedit: I'll probably go for continuing to scorinate and generate table later on. Still curious upon how it happened nonetheless.

[Commerce Heights]

Xkoronate problem here and a rather strange one if you ask me.

I usually use the same file for all my football competitions over and over. Yesterday I scorinated my cup and saved it -as usual at the end of a session-. Today, I scorinated my competition. I set up the league and started, MD by MD, to scorinate them. I didn't save in between, but ok. All well during the first five days but when I pushed the button for MD6, something strange happened. It did scorinate the right games, but added them to a different table. More exactly, the table of the last season (with different teams and so on) I scorinated. But when you look to the first five MDs or the 'set up groups', nothing is wrong. I'm especially baffled over an old league returning, even though it isn't the last thing I saved on that file. Anyone who knows what happened and with a solution that prevents me of rescorinating the first five MDs?

Edit: or would just rescorinating MD5 save me? (*editedit: answer is no, I discovered)

Editedit: I'll probably go for continuing to scorinate and generate table later on. Still curious upon how it happened nonetheless.

I don’t know how that would have happened. Scorinating matchday 1 of a round-robin competition should clear out all previous results.

[Ceni]

Here's a squash scorinator for xkoranate- TKP requested that I put this out here.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?> 
- <sport version="0.3">
  <name>Squash</name> 
  <discipline>Squash</discipline> 
  <event /> 
- <!--  only one scorinator is available for this sport 
  --> 
  <scorinator /> 
  <paradigm>tennis</paradigm> 
- <paradigmOptions>
  <int type="sets">5</int> 
  <int type="winPoints">11</int> 
  <int type="winMargin">2</int> 
  <int type="endPoints">0</int> 
  <int type="finalSetWinPoints">11</int> 
  <int type="finalSetWinMargin">2</int> 
  <int type="finalSetEndPoints">0</int> 
  <double type="attackModifier">7</double> 
  </paradigmOptions>
  </sport>

[Vyktory (Ancient)]

Alright, it's Nexxus Drako here, under his new main for everything but Aussie Rules and Football, and I thought I'd give this nation credit for the new scorinator coming up.

Yes, that's right, a new scorinator. This one is for scorinating competitions in the vein of the RL Australian Football League's preseason cup.

I have tested it, and it should work, as long is you put it in xkoranate's australianfootball folder, because it's an xkoranate file. I'll be looking for a couple of nations to guinea pig this on for a small friendly international club cup, independent of tha ARFF, but still posted in the ARFF thread.

The file is located at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62181279/NS%20Sports/xkoranate/australianfootball_nabcup.txt and I am willing for Commerce Heights to add it to the next release of Xkoranate, pending some cleanup of course.

So, as per the above, anyone wanna get this tested and stuff? I'd be chuffed if it got into the next Xkoranate release, and I decided to do it for a personal project of mine, and as well as do a preseason cup of sorts for Vyktory vs Nexxus Drako vs 2 other nations.

[The Nation of Ceneria]

Alrighty, folks--

I am searching for a decent scorinator for use in the prospective Cenerian Winter Games (not officially created, just an idea). The events will be mainly winter-oriented.

Do you have any suggestions on the best one to use?

Thank You!

[Free Republics]

Alrighty, folks--

I am searching for a decent scorinator for use in the prospective Cenerian Winter Games (not officially created, just an idea). The events will be mainly winter-oriented.

Do you have any suggestions on the best one to use?

Thank You!

Xkoranate has been used for all recent NS Winter Olympics and is probably the only scorinator in circulation at the moment that could handle an Olympic Games of any sort.

[Saugeais]

Alrighty, folks--

I am searching for a decent scorinator for use in the prospective Cenerian Winter Games (not officially created, just an idea). The events will be mainly winter-oriented.

Do you have any suggestions on the best one to use?

Thank You!

xkoranate has every Winter Olympics sport in its database (not all disciplines, though that is a simple edit anyone can do).

[The Nation of Ceneria]

Thank you for your quick replies, Free Republics and Saugeais. xkorinate sounds fine to me so far.

[Semarland]

Is there any scorinators that run on ChromeOS?

[Nova Pruthenia]

Hey!
Is there any Footba11er or NSFS scorination formula guide? I've always done scorinations using the traditional xkoranate formula (I've made my own file for kronum scorination), but now I'm trying to make a file for beach soccer. I know how xkoranate formula files work f.ex like in handball or basketball. It would be nicer tho to make a file in one of those other formulas which give more opportunities like away/home mod, def/off mod etc.

The main problem, even in xkoranate formula, is that in beach soccer there isn't any stable amount of penalties in shootouts. In traditional soccer or handball it's 5. But here you just lose when you miss and the opponent scores. So the line with "shootout length" is totally useless, but how to omit it? Would the file work properly without the line?
Thanks in advance for any pieces of advice!

[Barunia]

Hey!
Is there any Footba11er or NSFS scorination formula guide? I've always done scorinations using the traditional xkoranate formula (I've made my own file for kronum scorination), but now I'm trying to make a file for beach soccer. I know how xkoranate formula files work f.ex like in handball or basketball. It would be nicer tho to make a file in one of those other formulas which give more opportunities like away/home mod, def/off mod etc.

The main problem, even in xkoranate formula, is that in beach soccer there isn't any stable amount of penalties in shootouts. In traditional soccer or handball it's 5. But here you just lose when you miss and the opponent scores. So the line with "shootout length" is totally useless, but how to omit it? Would the file work properly without the line?
Thanks in advance for any pieces of advice!

Wouldn't setting the shootout length to 1 work just as well?

[Nova Pruthenia]

That's an option, gotta test it. Thanks for the idea!

[Commerce Heights]

Hey!
Is there any Footba11er or NSFS scorination formula guide? I've always done scorinations using the traditional xkoranate formula (I've made my own file for kronum scorination), but now I'm trying to make a file for beach soccer. I know how xkoranate formula files work f.ex like in handball or basketball. It would be nicer tho to make a file in one of those other formulas which give more opportunities like away/home mod, def/off mod etc.

The main problem, even in xkoranate formula, is that in beach soccer there isn't any stable amount of penalties in shootouts. In traditional soccer or handball it's 5. But here you just lose when you miss and the opponent scores. So the line with "shootout length" is totally useless, but how to omit it? Would the file work properly without the line?
Thanks in advance for any pieces of advice!

Wouldn't setting the shootout length to 1 work just as well?

Yes, that’ll do the trick.

Also, I’ve just learned that the official name for a beach soccer shootout is “kicks from the imaginary penalty mark”, which I think has to be one of the best names for any sporting procedure ever devised.

[Nova Pruthenia]

Yeah, the "1" trick works perfectly, thanks a lot!
The only problem is that xkoranate doesn't give any points for win after extra time or after penalties. I have the same issue with the kronum file. Is it possible to fix?