NationStates Gaelic Football Association (NSGFA) OOC

[Ethane]

On the note of this new format, I feel we should reset rankings when we promote/demote. We could keep an all-time standing, but for each cycle of championships, I say we reset our standings for the new cycle. Any objections?

Disagreed. Rankings shouldn't be reset at every championship. I'm not really sure about the format either. I feel it would be better to let the host to decide the format.

[United Vietussia]

This format is like a grand scheme. Plus, do you ever see sports where they keep the same standings for each season?

My idea incorporates a chance for more teams to compete with the chance to move up to a tougher competition for each cycle. Rankings reset would be needed for promotions/demotions.

In fact, for placement, I am thinking about after the Olympics to host a huge tournament for placement into the three divisions.

[Ethane]

This format is like a grand scheme. Plus, do you ever see sports where they keep the same standings for each season?

My idea incorporates a chance for more teams to compete with the chance to move up to a tougher competition for each cycle. Rankings reset would be needed for promotions/demotions.

In fact, for placement, I am thinking about after the Olympics to host a huge tournament for placement into the three divisions.

1) Right, so the format would be an overriding thing?
2) The problem with having more teams competing is that you actually need the teams to fill the gap
3) Why would rankings resets be needed for promotion/demotion? Just because a team was to, for example, be demoted from the premier league to the championship, it doesn't mean they move back to square 1. Yes, roleplay does need to be factored in for this, in a big way, but surely it would be better to do like 'ranking tiers', where there is a maximum rank you have in a certain tier, so for example, if you were in the premier league, and had a rank of say 10, and then you were demoted to the champions league, the 'maximum rank' for the champions league would be like 6, so the rank of that demoted team would be 6, just as an example, and a suggestion.
4) I still can't see how this '3-tier' structure is going to work?

[United Vietussia]

This format is like a grand scheme. Plus, do you ever see sports where they keep the same standings for each season?

My idea incorporates a chance for more teams to compete with the chance to move up to a tougher competition for each cycle. Rankings reset would be needed for promotions/demotions.

In fact, for placement, I am thinking about after the Olympics to host a huge tournament for placement into the three divisions.

1) Right, so the format would be an overriding thing?
2) The problem with having more teams competing is that you actually need the teams to fill the gap
3) Why would rankings resets be needed for promotion/demotion? Just because a team was to, for example, be demoted from the premier league to the championship, it doesn't mean they move back to square 1. Yes, roleplay does need to be factored in for this, in a big way, but surely it would be better to do like 'ranking tiers', where there is a maximum rank you have in a certain tier, so for example, if you were in the premier league, and had a rank of say 10, and then you were demoted to the champions league, the 'maximum rank' for the champions league would be like 6, so the rank of that demoted team would be 6, just as an example, and a suggestion.
4) I still can't see how this '3-tier' structure is going to work?

First off, I am putting this matter to a vote. The vote is closed to board members only, and will be sent out via TG. The vote will close near midnight CST on February 16th.

1) Not sure I understand the question.
2) There can be off-days included for teams. We did this in the first GFWC when there were 7-team groups where there were 3 matches and an off team. There can be any number of teams. This organizing tournament is a good idea for it can help us organize the three divisions. If there are too few teams, we can limit to 2 divisions.
3) Promotion/demotion would be in place as an incentive for competition and to keep RPing.
4) Take a look at this. The top 3 divisions resemble the hierarchy I wish to impose. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_league_system#The_system

[Ethane]

1) Right, so the format would be an overriding thing?
2) The problem with having more teams competing is that you actually need the teams to fill the gap
3) Why would rankings resets be needed for promotion/demotion? Just because a team was to, for example, be demoted from the premier league to the championship, it doesn't mean they move back to square 1. Yes, roleplay does need to be factored in for this, in a big way, but surely it would be better to do like 'ranking tiers', where there is a maximum rank you have in a certain tier, so for example, if you were in the premier league, and had a rank of say 10, and then you were demoted to the champions league, the 'maximum rank' for the champions league would be like 6, so the rank of that demoted team would be 6, just as an example, and a suggestion.
4) I still can't see how this '3-tier' structure is going to work?

First off, I am putting this matter to a vote. The vote is closed to board members only, and will be sent out via TG. The vote will close near midnight CST on February 16th.

1) Not sure I understand the question.
2) There can be off-days included for teams. We did this in the first GFWC when there were 7-team groups where there were 3 matches and an off team. There can be any number of teams. This organizing tournament is a good idea for it can help us organize the three divisions. If there are too few teams, we can limit to 2 divisions.
3) Promotion/demotion would be in place as an incentive for competition and to keep RPing.
4) Take a look at this. The top 3 divisions resemble the hierarchy I wish to impose. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_league_system#The_system

1) Don't worry about the 1st question.
2) I guess yeah it's just I don't know how many teams we would get.
3) That is actually a good way of making people rp. Are you suggesting a thing similar to the NSCF? Is it similar in format to that?
4) You're basing it off of the Premier League (Leicester City are doing great ). I can see how that would work, just not with the numbers that are in the RL leagues obviously. Ok, I think I understand better now.

[United Vietussia]

First off, I am putting this matter to a vote. The vote is closed to board members only, and will be sent out via TG. The vote will close near midnight CST on February 16th.

1) Not sure I understand the question.
2) There can be off-days included for teams. We did this in the first GFWC when there were 7-team groups where there were 3 matches and an off team. There can be any number of teams. This organizing tournament is a good idea for it can help us organize the three divisions. If there are too few teams, we can limit to 2 divisions.
3) Promotion/demotion would be in place as an incentive for competition and to keep RPing.
4) Take a look at this. The top 3 divisions resemble the hierarchy I wish to impose. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_league_system#The_system

1) Don't worry about the 1st question.
2) I guess yeah it's just I don't know how many teams we would get.
3) That is actually a good way of making people rp. Are you suggesting a thing similar to the NSCF? Is it similar in format to that?
4) You're basing it off of the Premier League (Leicester City are doing great ). I can see how that would work, just not with the numbers that are in the RL leagues obviously. Ok, I think I understand better now.

All but 3 are answered I believe...

3) Not really. NSCF has only one division. But they do offer incentives for RPing.

[Silvacometopia]

I still believe the host should sort this out.

[United Vietussia]

I still believe the host should sort this out.

The host still runs the tournament.

[Silvacometopia]

I still believe the host should sort this out.

The host still runs the tournament.

I know, but it should be their decision on how the tournament is run.

[Frenline Delpha]

The host still runs the tournament.

I know, but it should be their decision on how the tournament is run.

I think the point is to have a uniform way to organize how this tournament is ran, so that people know what to expect when they put up a host bid.

[Ethane]

I know, but it should be their decision on how the tournament is run.

I think the point is to have a uniform way to organize how this tournament is ran, so that people know what to expect when they put up a host bid.

I can see the advantages and disadvantages of both sides.
You would allow the host a more free reign on how to run the tournament if there was no uniform structure.
But then having a uniform structure would make the organisation of the tournament a whole lot easier, and simpler overall.

I say we go with United Vietussia's idea, but keep in mind other options if the system doesn't work out all that great.

[Silvacometopia]

I think the point is to have a uniform way to organize how this tournament is ran, so that people know what to expect when they put up a host bid.

I can see the advantages and disadvantages of both sides.
You would allow the host a more free reign on how to run the tournament if there was no uniform structure.
But then having a uniform structure would make the organisation of the tournament a whole lot easier, and simpler overall.

I say we go with United Vietussia's idea, but keep in mind other options if the system doesn't work out all that great.

I guess we could try it for our next edition, I'm still putting in a bid.

[Ethane]

I can see the advantages and disadvantages of both sides.
You would allow the host a more free reign on how to run the tournament if there was no uniform structure.
But then having a uniform structure would make the organisation of the tournament a whole lot easier, and simpler overall.

I say we go with United Vietussia's idea, but keep in mind other options if the system doesn't work out all that great.

I guess we could try it for our next edition, I'm still putting in a bid.

Yeah, if it doesn't work out, then we can change the format back to something else, such as letting the hosts decide it.

[Silvacometopia]

I guess we could try it for our next edition, I'm still putting in a bid.

Yeah, if it doesn't work out, then we can change the format back to something else, such as letting the hosts decide it.

Just waiting for confirmation then?

[Ethane]

Yeah, if it doesn't work out, then we can change the format back to something else, such as letting the hosts decide it.

Just waiting for confirmation then?

I believe that we got a vote sent through to our Telegrams?

[Silvacometopia]

Just waiting for confirmation then?

I believe that we got a vote sent through to our Telegrams?

Yeah, we did.

[Ethane]

I believe that we got a vote sent through to our Telegrams?

Yeah, we did.

Just had a look at the results so far, and it seems to be a dead heat

[Silvacometopia]

Yeah, we did.

Just had a look at the results so far, and it seems to be a dead heat

Should've had less specific options.

[Ethane]

Just had a look at the results so far, and it seems to be a dead heat

Should've had less specific options.

I guess.

[United Vietussia]

Results of Divisions and Placement Tournament Resolution:

Yes, and the divisions are a great idea. 1
No, I think the divisions aren't a great idea, either. 1
No, but the divisions are a good idea. 1
Abstain. 2
Base divisions on current rankings, then add more teams in a placement tournament. 1

Consensus: Divisions are a good idea, but hesitant on placement tournament.

[United Vietussia]

What do you guys think of the logo I made?

[Silvacometopia]

What do you guys think of the logo I made?

I like it, but it needs more purple!

[United Vietussia]

What do you guys think of the logo I made?

I like it, but it needs more purple!

Hmm...I wonder what makes you think that...

[Silvacometopia]

I like it, but it needs more purple!

Hmm...I wonder what makes you think that...

Please don't kick me out Vietussia...

[United Vietussia]

Hmm...I wonder what makes you think that...

Please don't kick me out Vietussia...

Why? I never would...