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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:47 am

RB, what was that thing in the telegram you sent us CoH people about a player from our team and a card? I was an idiot and accidentally deleted the telegram when I was cleaning up my TG inbox.
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:28 am

Chromatika wrote:That Bears Armed card has to be the best.

Unfortunately I haven't been able to keep up with the RP for this Cup. Where can I find the card about which you're talking?
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Postby Hasznia » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:47 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Chromatika wrote:That Bears Armed card has to be the best.

Unfortunately I haven't been able to keep up with the RP for this Cup. Where can I find the card about which you're talking?

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Postby Ethane » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:55 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:RB, what was that thing in the telegram you sent us CoH people about a player from our team and a card? I was an idiot and accidentally deleted the telegram when I was cleaning up my TG inbox.

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Postby Banija » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:17 am

Can't think of a better place to ask this... But how do we access the NS Sports chat? I know there is one as I've seen it mentioned on here... But I've never seen a link for it before.
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Postby Frenline Delpha » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:18 am

Banija wrote:Can't think of a better place to ask this... But how do we access the NS Sports chat? I know there is one as I've seen it mentioned on here... But I've never seen a link for it before.

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Postby Ethane » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:19 am

Banija wrote:Can't think of a better place to ask this... But how do we access the NS Sports chat? I know there is one as I've seen it mentioned on here... But I've never seen a link for it before.

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Postby Saintland » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:37 am

Frenline Delpha wrote:
Banija wrote:Can't think of a better place to ask this... But how do we access the NS Sports chat? I know there is one as I've seen it mentioned on here... But I've never seen a link for it before.

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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:21 am

Hasznia wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Unfortunately I haven't been able to keep up with the RP for this Cup. Where can I find the card about which you're talking?

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... #p29129364

Thank you.
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Postby Audioslavia » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:30 am

Stadiums have been allocated for each of the matches, and the knockout schedule has been posted.

Also, in true World Cup tradition (from my childhood anyway), we now have a wallchart

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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:32 am

I'm travelling to Argentina tomorrow to help film a History Channel series involving a Nazi-related archaeology site in the far northeast of the country.

I will try and get a Holy Empire roster up for the CoH later today, but I have no idea how much of an internet connection I'll have once I'm in Misiones Province. It's also going to take me a long time to get there (it's a 26-28 hour journey tomorrow). This may have a negative impact on my CoH participation.

Still, 'I couldn't RP because I was hunting Nazis on the Argentina-Paraguay border' is likely the best excuse for not RP'ing in the history of the WC and its associated events, so I hope we can all live with that.
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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:40 am

The Archregimancy wrote:I'm travelling to Argentina tomorrow to help film a History Channel series involving a Nazi-related archaeology site in the far northeast of the country.

I will try and get a Holy Empire roster up for the CoH later today, but I have no idea how much of an internet connection I'll have once I'm in Misiones Province. It's also going to take me a long time to get there (it's a 26-28 hour journey tomorrow). This may have a negative impact on my CoH participation.

Still, I couldn't RP because I was hunting Nazis on the Argentina-Paraguay border' is likely the best excuse for not RP'ing in the history of the WC and its associated events, so I hope we can all live with that.

It's not related to the thread itself, but when the show will air. I liked watching History Channels, especially shows such as Ancient Aliens, Forged In Fire, Modern Marvels, etc.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:49 am

The Federation of Kendor wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:I'm travelling to Argentina tomorrow to help film a History Channel series involving a Nazi-related archaeology site in the far northeast of the country.

I will try and get a Holy Empire roster up for the CoH later today, but I have no idea how much of an internet connection I'll have once I'm in Misiones Province. It's also going to take me a long time to get there (it's a 26-28 hour journey tomorrow). This may have a negative impact on my CoH participation.

Still, I couldn't RP because I was hunting Nazis on the Argentina-Paraguay border' is likely the best excuse for not RP'ing in the history of the WC and its associated events, so I hope we can all live with that.

It's not related to the thread itself, but when the show will air. I liked watching History Channels, especially shows such as Ancient Aliens, Forged In Fire, Modern Marvels, etc.


1) I don't know when it'll air. I also can't guarantee that I'll appear much when it does air.

2) Given my profession, we can safely assume I'm not keen on Ancient Aliens; I took advice from the ethics committee chair of one of my professional societies before agreeing to participate in this programme (which isn't about either ancient aliens or Nazi aliens).

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Postby Tir y tan » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:57 am

The Archregimancy wrote:I'm travelling to Argentina tomorrow to help film a History Channel series involving a Nazi-related archaeology site in the far northeast of the country.

I will try and get a Holy Empire roster up for the CoH later today, but I have no idea how much of an internet connection I'll have once I'm in Misiones Province. It's also going to take me a long time to get there (it's a 26-28 hour journey tomorrow). This may have a negative impact on my CoH participation.

Still, I couldn't RP because I was hunting Nazis on the Argentina-Paraguay border' is likely the best excuse for not RP'ing in the history of the WC and its associated events, so I hope we can all live with that.

That documentary that is trying to disprove Hitler's suicide? And that he went to hide to Argentina?

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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:27 am

Tir y tan wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:I'm travelling to Argentina tomorrow to help film a History Channel series involving a Nazi-related archaeology site in the far northeast of the country.

I will try and get a Holy Empire roster up for the CoH later today, but I have no idea how much of an internet connection I'll have once I'm in Misiones Province. It's also going to take me a long time to get there (it's a 26-28 hour journey tomorrow). This may have a negative impact on my CoH participation.

Still, I couldn't RP because I was hunting Nazis on the Argentina-Paraguay border' is likely the best excuse for not RP'ing in the history of the WC and its associated events, so I hope we can all live with that.

That documentary that is trying to disprove Hitler's suicide? And that he went to hide to Argentina?


1) I've made it clear to the producers that I strongly disagree with their editorial line, and that I'm only participating on the condition that I am not forced to agree with their editorial line. Nonetheless, I have no illusions that my participation will change the view that they're presenting.

2) I know the archaeologist running the site in Misiones Province personally, and he also disagrees strongly with the producers' editorial line; he is highly respected internationally, and he isn't responsible for their deliberate misinterpretation of his archaeological evidence.

3) I agreed to participate despite these strong misgivings because my professional organisations were unanimously of the opinion that it's best to have someone with relevant expertise on site who can at least help ensure the actual archaeology is shown correctly, even if the subsequent interpretations are rubbish.

4) 'Documentary' is admittedly probably too kind a word to use here.

And no, before anyone asks, that wasn't me in the first series; I had no role in the first series.

That outlined, I'd be grateful if we could turn this thread back towards WCC events rather than what I'm doing in Argentina for the next 10 days or so.
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Postby Tir y tan » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:31 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Tir y tan wrote:That documentary that is trying to disprove Hitler's suicide? And that he went to hide to Argentina?


1) I've made it clear to the producers that I strongly disagree with their editorial line, and that I'm only participating on the condition that I am not forced to agree with their editorial line. Nonetheless, I have no illusions that my participation will change the view that they're presenting.

2) I know the archaeologist running the site in Misiones Province personally, and he also disagrees strongly with the producers' editorial line; he is highly respected internationally, and he isn't responsible for their deliberate misinterpretation of his archaeological evidence.

3) I agreed to participate despite these strong misgivings because my professional organisations were unanimously of the opinion that it's best to have someone with relevant expertise on site who can at least help ensure the actual archaeology is shown correctly, even if the subsequent interpretations are rubbish.

4) 'Documentary' is admittedly probably too kind a word to use here.

And no, before anyone asks, that wasn't me in the first series; I had no role in the first series.

That outlined, I'd be grateful if we could turn this thread back towards WCC events rather than what I'm doing in Argentina for the next 10 days or so.

Mhm, alright. Is it true that world cups are hosted every two real life months?

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Postby Hasznia » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:39 am

Tir y tan wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:-snip-

Mhm, alright. Is it true that world cups are hosted every two real life months?

It's more fluid than that, based on when and how many users decide to bid for the Baptism of Fire and the World Cup itself. I think around four per RL year is a more accurate description.
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Postby Krytenia » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:42 am

Tir y tan wrote:Mhm, alright. Is it true that world cups are hosted every two real life months?


It's closer to three or four. There's a break of a few weeks in between tournaments; if you're in one of the big sporting regions (Atlantian Oceania, Rushmore, or Esportiva) there'll be a regional championships in between.
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Postby Saintland » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:15 am

Hasznia wrote:
Tir y tan wrote:Mhm, alright. Is it true that world cups are hosted every two real life months?

It's more fluid than that, based on when and how many users decide to bid for the Baptism of Fire and the World Cup itself. I think around four per RL year is a more accurate description.


We've been going at about a 3 cycle per year pace for the past 2 years. World Cups 69 and 70 were delayed due to lack of bids (and also a desire, in the former case to avoid running the World Cup simultaneously with FIFA's World Cup) and that, more or less, became the norm afterward. The idea behind slowing everything down was to reduce the number of veterans burning out, but it seems to have done nothing of the sort and has probably been one of several factors toward the decline in activity levels on this sub-forum in recent years. 3 years ago, we had a record 202 nations in the summer World Cup and that record would have been easily broken 2 years ago if the signups for World Cup 69 had been open for longer than 2 weeks. Now, we've had 142 nations signed up for the World Cup for 3 consecutive World Cups and that's with the hosts basically leaving signups open until the qualifying draw. Nor is this just affecting the World Cup, as those that enter tournaments for other sports and have been around for a few years can attest.

Yet, although slowing down the pace of World Cup cycles (and thereby slowing down the pace of this entire sub-forum) has done exactly the opposite of what was promised by its advocates back in the day (and I was actually one of the proponents of it, at one point), its probably impossible to change things back to how they were.
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Postby Fluvique » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:21 am

The Archregimancy wrote:I'm travelling to Argentina tomorrow to help film a History Channel series involving a Nazi-related archaeology site in the far northeast of the country.

I will try and get a Holy Empire roster up for the CoH later today, but I have no idea how much of an internet connection I'll have once I'm in Misiones Province. It's also going to take me a long time to get there (it's a 26-28 hour journey tomorrow). This may have a negative impact on my CoH participation.

Still, I couldn't RP because I was hunting Nazis on the Argentina-Paraguay border' is likely the best excuse for not RP'ing in the history of the WC and its associated events, so I hope we can all live with that.


Misiones? I thought he was in Bariloche.

However, if you go to Puerto Iguazu you should visit the falls.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:44 am

Fluvique wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:I'm travelling to Argentina tomorrow to help film a History Channel series involving a Nazi-related archaeology site in the far northeast of the country.

I will try and get a Holy Empire roster up for the CoH later today, but I have no idea how much of an internet connection I'll have once I'm in Misiones Province. It's also going to take me a long time to get there (it's a 26-28 hour journey tomorrow). This may have a negative impact on my CoH participation.

Still, I couldn't RP because I was hunting Nazis on the Argentina-Paraguay border' is likely the best excuse for not RP'ing in the history of the WC and its associated events, so I hope we can all live with that.


Misiones? I thought he was in Bariloche.

However, if you go to Puerto Iguazu you should visit the falls.


Long story.

But I won't be flying into Puerto Iguazu; I'm flying into Posadas. I likely won't have time to visit the falls (unfortunately), but the good news is that my hotel is directly across the road from the ruins of the Jesuit Mission of San Ignacio de Mini - so I can tick off another UNESCO World Heritage site.

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Postby Starblaydia » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:47 am

The Archregimancy wrote:San Ignacio de Mini

I swear he's played Inside Right for the Archregimancy. Little guy, tricky feet.
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Postby Barunia » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:49 am

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The Archregimancy wrote:San Ignacio de Mini

I swear he's played Inside Right for the Archregimancy. Little guy, tricky feet.


If he hasn't, WC76.
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Postby Krytenia » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:06 pm

Saintland wrote:
Hasznia wrote:It's more fluid than that, based on when and how many users decide to bid for the Baptism of Fire and the World Cup itself. I think around four per RL year is a more accurate description.


We've been going at about a 3 cycle per year pace for the past 2 years. World Cups 69 and 70 were delayed due to lack of bids (and also a desire, in the former case to avoid running the World Cup simultaneously with FIFA's World Cup) and that, more or less, became the norm afterward. The idea behind slowing everything down was to reduce the number of veterans burning out, but it seems to have done nothing of the sort and has probably been one of several factors toward the decline in activity levels on this sub-forum in recent years. 3 years ago, we had a record 202 nations in the summer World Cup and that record would have been easily broken 2 years ago if the signups for World Cup 69 had been open for longer than 2 weeks. Now, we've had 142 nations signed up for the World Cup for 3 consecutive World Cups and that's with the hosts basically leaving signups open until the qualifying draw. Nor is this just affecting the World Cup, as those that enter tournaments for other sports and have been around for a few years can attest.

Yet, although slowing down the pace of World Cup cycles (and thereby slowing down the pace of this entire sub-forum) has done exactly the opposite of what was promised by its advocates back in the day (and I was actually one of the proponents of it, at one point), its probably impossible to change things back to how they were.

Nope.

Nnnnnnnope.

Back in the 30s, we were regularly struggling to fill the World Cup with 92 nations, never mind 142. Nations will come and go (as both WC75 hosts have...twice); if people really want to speed up the cycle, then the easiest way is to put in bids earlier. That seems pretty possible to me.

Also, there is a whole bunch of activity in the fora that hasn't "slowed down". Just because you don't participate in it, doesn't mean it's not there.
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Postby Northern Sunrise Islands » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:10 pm

Audioslavia wrote:Stadiums have been allocated for each of the matches, and the knockout schedule has been posted.

Also, in true World Cup tradition (from my childhood anyway), we now have a wallchart


Just realized the "Ass. God." there. Top notch. :p

Not only from your childhood, though. I recall Jornal do Brasil releasing one before the 2002 World Cup.
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