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[Darmen]

The Darmeni Bid for the Tenth Beach Cup

Beach Soccer in Darmen
Beach Soccer is officially Darmen's "National Sport". It is not however the most popular sport or even the country's official "National Football Code." Darmen made its Beach Soccer debut in Beach Cup III, where they were met with almost immediate success, winning their Group and making it as far as the Quarterfinals. Thereafter, Darmen has finished third (BC 6), fourth (BC 4), bowed out in the Quarterfinals (BC 5 & BC 9), reached the Round of Sixteen but gotten no further (BC 7), and even failed to get out of the Group stage (BC 8). Darmen's lone hosting experience of the Beach Cup was its sixth edition.

Domestic Beach Soccer in Darmen has failed to gain much popularity, and only two seasons been completed, the latest results of which can be found here.

Further IC details will be provided should this bid win.

Format
By my count, we are currently up to 45 nations, and with a week still to go before the host bid deadline, and another week or so for voting, the number of sign-ups could exceed 60, which I believe would be a participation record for both the Beach Cup and any tournament I've previously hosted. So a few formats which may be used:

48 teams: 8 groups of 6, double round robin (10 matches), with the top two teams from each group advancing to the Round of Sixteen, single knockout from there.
50 teams: 10 groups of 5, double round robin (8 matches), with the group winners and six best runners-up advancing to the Round of Sixteen, single knockout from there.
54 teams: 9 groups of 6, double round robin (10 matches), with the group winners and seven best runners-up advancing to the Round of Sixteen, single knockout from there.
56 teams: 8 groups of 7, double round robin (12 matches), with the top two teams from each group advancing to the Round of Sixteen, single knockout from there.
60 teams: 10 groups of 6, double round robin (10 matches), with the group winners and six best runners-up advancing to the Round of Sixteen, single knockout from there.
64 teams: 8 groups of 8, single round robin (7 matches), with the top two teams from each group advancing to the Round of Sixteen, single knockout from there.

Any format with 8 groups is my preferred format. If enough concerns are brought up about the length of the Group Stages/RP Burnout, I'm certainly fine with making the Group Stage single round robin. It should also be noted that all formats will have a mid-Group Stage break (the exception for this being the 64 team format), a break between the Group Stage and the Playoffs, and a Third Place Match.

Tiebreakers
Tiebreakers will be decided by:
1. Goal Differential
2. H2H
3. H2H Goal Differential
4. Goals For
5. H2H Goals For

Scorination
xkoranate 0.3.3. will be used, with the NSFS3 Baseball formula being utilized. RP bonus will be on a scale of 0-3, and will be cumulative. The first scorination should occur within five days of my winning the host vote (should I win of course).

Experience
I've previously hosted Rugby League World Cup 12, Rugby World Cup 18, Beach Cup 6, Copa Rushmori 9, World Volleyball Expo 4 and several other smaller tournaments. I also scorinate one of the biggest domestic sports systems in the history of NSSports.

[Luziyca]

I am going to urge people to vote for Darmen's bid, or any bid besides mine. If I do somehow win, I don't know what it will say of the game.

[Equestrian States]

I am going to urge people to vote for Darmen's bid, or any bid besides mine. If I do somehow win, I don't know what it will say of the game.

If you don't feel comfortable with your own bid, you should just withdraw it instead of asking people not to vote for it. Even if the odds of it being selected are minuscule, why leave anything up to chance? Alternatively, if you're having second thoughts about certain aspects of your bid, you are still allowed to change them as voting hasn't started yet. Even experienced hosts occasionally will make changes to their bids if one or two details aren't well-received.

Scorination
The first scorination should occur within five days of my winning the host vote (should I win of course).

Why such a quick turnaround? I can understand not wanting to have a long gap between the signup period and the start of the competition, but five days seems a bit too short to me as it places more demand on participants to throw their roster together quickly. I'd suggest widening this window to 7-10 days (or roughly a week after the posting of the IC thread).

Other than that relatively small concern, I have no real issues with the bid and would gladly vote for it if no further contending bids are posted between now and the deadline.

[Darmen]

Scorination
The first scorination should occur within five days of my winning the host vote (should I win of course).

Why such a quick turnaround? I can understand not wanting to have a long gap between the signup period and the start of the competition, but five days seems a bit too short to me as it places more demand on participants to throw their roster together quickly. I'd suggest widening this window to 7-10 days (or roughly a week after the posting of the IC thread).

Other than that relatively small concern, I have no real issues with the bid and would gladly vote for it if no further contending bids are posted between now and the deadline.

It should be noted that that time table is not set in stone, and is simply the earliest that the first cutoff could happen. I don't foresee many people posting very detailed rosters like you might see for a World Cup, but, if after those five days, I think that the number of rosters/pre-tourney RP's posted is a bit sparse, or I myself need more time to do the draw/setup xkoranate, I could certainly extend that time period by another day or two.

[New Wolfopolis]

Scorination
xkoranate 0.3.3. will be used, with the NSFS3 Baseball formula being utilized.

If you do this, you'll get a nine-inning result. Unless I'm mistaken, Beach Soccer doesn't have nine innings. Plus, the xkoranate formula for baseball is much less random.

[Gregoryisgodistan]

Scorination
xkoranate 0.3.3. will be used, with the NSFS3 Baseball formula being utilized.

If you do this, you'll get a nine-inning result. Unless I'm mistaken, Beach Soccer doesn't have nine innings. Plus, the xkoranate formula for baseball is much less random.

He could just delete the linescores....

Edit: Or uncheck the box that says to show them. Which I believe would also cause it not to display extra innings if it went to it. I ran 50 trials with it disabled and it not once said it went to extra innings. Either I'm ridiculously unlucky or it won't show it. And considering the fact that on my second trial with the linescores enabled, the game went to extra innings, I'm guessing it's the latter.

[New Wolfopolis]

If you do this, you'll get a nine-inning result. Unless I'm mistaken, Beach Soccer doesn't have nine innings. Plus, the xkoranate formula for baseball is much less random.

He could just delete the linescores....

Edit: Or uncheck the box that says to show them. Which I believe would also cause it not to display extra innings if it went to it. I ran 50 trials with it disabled and it not once said it went to extra innings. Either I'm ridiculously unlucky or it won't show it. And considering the fact that on my second trial with the linescores enabled, the game went to extra innings, I'm guessing it's the latter.

Ah, fair point. I forgot about that. I'd still rather have the xkoranate formula, for the randomness factor.

[Star United States]

Beach Cup X - Bid
San Jose Guayabal & Star United States

San José Guayabal

OOC:
San José Guayabal burst onto the scene for World Cup 66, and has had a growing presence in the community ever since. There has been a fair few events hosted by SJG and puppet Alianza Albos since then - September Tennis Championships, Copa de La Paz, World Junior Hockey Championship V (all SJG), Copa Rushmori XVIII (with Alianza Albos), five seasons of domestic leagues in both nations, as well as scorinating many friendlies and the AO Hockey Championship final, and the Baptism of Fire 56.

IC:

IC Information of San José Guayabal

Demonym: Guayabalense/Guayabalian/Guayabalese
Nickname: Latinos, Mountaineers, Icy lands.
Region: Esportiva
Capital: San Salvador
Population: Aprox. 52 mil.(2047 census)
Largest City: San Salvador
Trigramme/TLA: SJG
Motto: “¡Proletarios del mundo, uníos por la libertad!"
Languages Spoken: Spanish, Russian, English, Swedish, Guayabalian (Official) Norwegian, Finnish (De facto)
Administrative Regions: 18 Oblasts

Weather:
If you have to talk climates , San Jose Guayabal is definitely an interesting place in terms of these categories . It is one of the countries highlighted in Esportiva as to a better climate , having stable temperatures and within normal limits in many parts of this great nation of more than half a million square kilometers, with climates three varieties of climates throughout the nation.

The tropical climate occurs in the region of the capital and in the plains south of Piedra Labrada , especially in Loma Chata Oblast Oblast and San Miguel , whose climate is notable for being one of the strongest in terms of heat throughout the year , with an average temperature of 34 ° C throughout the year , with temperatures of 42 ° C in the summer and with temperatures of 29 ° C in winter , the most humid places because of its close location to the coast due to the atmospheric phenomenon of confluence Esportiva Antarctic Ocean and the South Sea , which generates phenomena of moisture due to temperature changes between the two oceans.

Mild, temperate climate prevails in at least 40 % of the country , is the temperate climate of mid-mountain , with temperatures around average 17 ° C , in places like the mid-mountain area which is situated in Vladivostok or San Resume along with Juan Piedra Labrada , a city that despite being at 2900 meters above sea level, is characterized by a climate of mid-mountain , is mainly due to the location of
SJG at low latitudes of Esportiva , very close the South Pole, the maximum temperatures are around 24 ° C in summer and minimum temperatures of -5 ° C are generated in the winter.

The northern zone of the country located in the Ramírez isthmus, is moderately severe winters due to its location in the mountains, with temperatures down to -35 ° C in a strong winter day or to -23.5 ° C which is the average temperature of the city in the winter, also characterized by heavy fog during October to March almost permanently , the maximum temperature in winter is just over 2 ° C but on average not more than -13 ° C, being a city with a pleasant climate for those who like the cold in the summer the city has rainy season , obtaining a minimum temperature of 3 ° C at night and a day extremely "Hot" a temperature of 27 °C, on average the city remains at 16 ° C, so it tends to have a moderate climate, rainfall reach 1,200 millimeters per month and as for snow up to 12 inches of snow fall, visibility in the worst case reaches 10 meters visibility at optimum day the people can have perfect visibility.

The Soviet Socialistic Republic of San José Guayabal commonly called Guayabal or SJG, is a Federation in Esportiva. It's bordered on the north by Estope and Wednesday Evening and in the east by Gregoryisgodistan and Gloriax in the south east. SJG covers 56,312,121 square kilometers and has has an estimated population of 52 million. SJG comprises of 18 Oblasts

Etymology
The origin of the name comes from the spanish "Campo de guayabas" (Guavas County) (Vulgar: Guayabal) by the abundance of guavas, in 1770 was imposed as the patron of the town Saint Joseph (San José; In spanish) by this reason the name is San José Guayabal (Eng. Saint Joseph Guavas)

History
The village emerged in the mid-eighteenth century, and was known as Guayabal by the abundance of guava. In 1770, according to Pedro Cortés y Larraz (Spanish colonizer), had a population of 593 people "without being subject to any authority."
Indeed, the mayor Mayor Jose Ortiz de la Peña actual surveyor commissioned Don Francisco Jose Vallejo to chart a plan of the new town, which was founded on November 13, 1786 as a people's Guayabal. For 1807 had a population of 1,150 inhabitants.
Under the rule of El Salvador
He was part of the department of San Salvador from 1824-1835, the year he spent in the district of Suchitoto Cuscatlan. For 1859 it had a population of 2,302 inhabitants, which by 1890 had risen to 5,830,000. He received the title of town in 1875, and the city in 2006.
Independence of SJG:
The March 29, 2013, in protest of its 40 million people by the mistreatment of El Salvador, it was decided to wean and the same day, El Salvador accepted independence.
Through time, international litigation, could colonize El Salvador and then arrive to the continent of andarica in Esportiva

Population
According to the latest census (August 2013) was calculated in Guayabal a population of 52 million people, of which are classified into only five ethnic groups, which are:
-Guayabalenses/Guayabalians: 31%
-Salvadorans: 20%
-British: 19%
-Russians: 17%
-Eskimos: 13%

Of which are of different religions:
-Evangelical Christian: 96%
-Catholics: 2%
-Protestants: 2%

Language
The national languages ​​of under Article 8 of the Constitution of the Federation of San Jose Guayabal, adopted in The Honorable People's Parliament are: English, Spanish Guayabalense, Russian, and Eskimo (Most used are: English, Spanish and Guayabalian), encouraging the use of language Guayabalian in:
- All daily activities as the language of communication between citizens of the Federation.
-support their teaching in public schools, private schools and universities in the San Jose Guayabal Federation.
But the SJG citizens talk the following languages:
-Spanish: 30%
-Guayabalian: 30%
-English: 15%
-Eskimo: 13%
-Russian: 12%
But 95% of the population has at least advanced knowledge of five languages​​, making society a society Guayabalense polyglot, highly acculturated and interesting to interact.

Star United States

OCC:
Star United States has been around since 2012, and on NS Sports since then. Star United States has hosted the First, Fourth, and Fifth Star Triathlon Worldwide Tournament, and the International FireStorm Cup XI, along with a national championship and many international soccer friendlies.

IC Information of Star United States

Demonym: Starian/Stars
Nickname: Star
Region: Esportiva
Capital: City of Star
Population: About 96 Million
Largest City: SeaShore City
Trigramme/TLA: SUS
Motto: “With Liberty, We Stand"
Languages Spoken: English, Spanish, Portuguese
Administrative Regions: 5 Districts, 1 soon-to-be District

The Republic of Star United States is a tropical state located in the region of Esportiva. It was founded in 1815 when the joining of five sovereign countries, which are now known as districts. Star United States is a placed full of diversity from the tropical rainforest with exotic animals to the people walking down the street. The national animal, the panda, however, can be only found in zoos, most of them are located on the National Zoo & Reserve near Woodbed City, Star United States.

Star United States is a place with many cultures, and many languages, such as English, Spanish, and Portuguese, which are all official languages. The country is separated into five districts: Estrall, Herbeid, Piaxse, Opangue, and Starix, excelling the Star United States Islands, who are not a district in the country, but is still part of it. English is more commonly spoken in the Estrall, Herbeid, and Piaxse districts, including northern Starix District. Spanish is most spoken in the Starix, and Opangue districts. Portuguese, however, is mainly just spoken on the Star United States Islands but, it is becoming very popular on the mainland.

Star United States has amazing weather (mostly) all year round, but is currently going through a rough time weather-wise, but is expected to clear up soon. Star United States also has a rather long coast line, with many wonderful beaches all around. The people of Star United States love sports, especially soccer and triathlons, and this has encouraged national teams to participate in many tournaments. However, beach soccer is increasingly gaining popularity in the state, especially in the costal cities.

Star United States current operates 14 sport venues and currently, the nation is in the process of building four stadiums especial for beach soccer due to never ending popularity of it, which should be done pretty soon. The names of these stadiums are: River Beach Stadium, Estadio De La Playa, Cross Stadium, and the Confluence Arena.

Format, Scorination, Tie-Breakers & RP

Format
- If 48 teams sign up: 8 groups of 6, with top two moving onto the Round of 16, and then onto the Quarter-Finals, Semi-Finals, Third Place Match, and Finals.
- If 56 teams sign up: 8 groups of 7, with top four moving onto a Round of 32, followed by a Round of 16, Quarter-Finals, Semi-Finals, Third Place Match, and Final.
Please Note: That any number will be worked with, if the number of teams signed up is more or less.

Tie-Breakers
1. H2H Points
2. H2H Goal Difference
3. H2H Goals For
4. H2H Match

Scorination & RP
The latest version of Xkoranate will be used. Since no Beach Soccer option is available on Xboranate, it will be scorinated as baseball. The xkoranate formula will be used.
RP bonuses will be accumulative throughout the tournament.

[Yttribia]

To the bid from San Jose Guayabal and Star United States? Why a joint bid? Both users, in my opinion, are capable enough to bid solo, so why did both of you decide to write up a joint bid?

[San Jose Guayabal]

To the bid from San Jose Guayabal and Star United States? Why a joint bid? Both users, in my opinion, are capable enough to bid solo, so why did both of you decide to write up a joint bid?

Doing a joint bid represents advantages for the plans and intentions of every host would have, a smoothly run tournament and that's the reason what SUS and I decided to do a joint bid, in case of RL events (God forbid that) from one of us, there's another host that can be the backup for the other side host and keep the competition running and avoiding stop it, so this brings security to the tournament and also adds more stability to the host project (bid).

Respecting us, we think that both nations have IC reasons to do a joint host bid, considering history and culture issues like languages and etc.

Also, in my experience curriculum I may add the most recent edition of the WCC Sanctioned Baptism of Fire (56)

[Super-Llamaland]

IC: Patistan: A place of diverse culture. In the South, native tribes in the forest. In the North, metropolitan cities which never sleep. The coastal cities, notably Tachi and Lawadar are famous for their always clean beaches. Beach football isn't the most known sport in Patistan but they do have a flourishing league.

Super-Llamaland: The southern ports, Nikcoro, Los Juantos, and Southwest Port amongst them, are soccer-crazy, and when the pitch isn't available the beach will do. The entire nation is large and cultured, from the subarctic tundra of Dinschria to the tropical climate of Nikcoro to the temperate rainforest of the northwest, with a population of 120 million.

OOC

Patistan: Patistan has been RPing in NSSports for a long time and has also scorinated many friendlies and his region's league, as well as bidding for the Eighth International Firestorm Cup with Star United States. He hopes for this to be one of his first tournaments hosted.

Super-Llamaland: Co-host of WBC 30 and IBS III, host of Watterson Bowl II, International Firestorm Cup Seven, and UWCFA Gold Cup II, amongst others. A regular RPer who hopes to enter the world of Beach Soccer.

Format

We're quickly approaching (and will likely surpass) forty-eight nations right now. A double-round robin group stage will be used in the below formats, with the listed nations moving on to a single-elimination knockout phase. We included most multiples of four or six for flexibility.

48: 8 Groups of 6, top two advance to Ro16
50: 10 Groups of 5, top two advance to Ro20
54: 9 Groups of 6, top team and best five second-place advance to Ro16, other runners-ups play playoff to advance
56: 8 Groups of 7, top three advance to Ro24
60: 10 Groups of 6, top two and best four third-place teams advance to Ro24

Ties (and seeding problems) will be broken in the following order:

1. GD
2. H2H
3. H2H GD
4. Playoff game

Group winners will not necessarily be seeded higher than group runners-up.

All group stage games will be played outside of Super-Llamaland and Patistan, except for of course the ones the host nations actually play in.

Scorinator/Ranks

Xkorante-formula baseball, without linescores of course. Rosters will be worth up to five points and RPs two. Multiple RPs on one day will be counted as one. The RPs written over the past five days will be added to the roster score to produce a max RP score of fifteen, and normal Beach Cup ranks will be used.

All-Star Game

Between the best of Super-Llamaland's groups (based on RP) and the best of Patistan's to determine who hosts the final game.

Questions

See below!

[Super-Llamaland]

sign up.

[Free Swiss States]

In!

[Patistan]

Any questions?

[New Wolfopolis]

Just one from me: If you win both bids that you currently have, which tournament will you decide to host, Super-Llamaland?

[Gregoryisgodistan]

Just one from me: If you win both bids that you currently have, which tournament will you decide to host, Super-Llamaland?

Assuming there is a Baptism of Iron, the World Bowl shouldn't start until after this ends. But I'll let Llama confirm that's his reasoning.

[Super-Llamaland]

Just one from me: If you win both bids that you currently have, which tournament will you decide to host, Super-Llamaland?

Assuming there is a Baptism of Iron, the World Bowl shouldn't start until after this ends. But I'll let Llama confirm that's his reasoning.

This.

[New Wolfopolis]

That makes sense. Alright. Carry on.

[Jeckland]

We're in beaches.

[Western cuba]

Western Cuba signs up

[Mapletish]

We are in!

[Swibia]

We're in for a second time.

[Patistan]

Shoudnt voting start now?

[Mangolana]

Host Bidding is now closed. Sorry about the delay, power problems with this storm in South Florida. Without further ado, the options for bidding.

1. Vote to accept Luziyca as host
2. Vote to accept Darmen as host
3. Vote to accept San Jose Guayabal & Star United States as hosts
4. Vote to accept Super-Llamaland & Patistan as hosts
5. Vote to re-open bidding
6. Abstain

All votes should be TGed to Mangolana by Saturday August 9th at Noon EST.

[Daritii]

Daritii votes for fellow communist Darmen