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Postby The Sarian » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:14 am

Britonisea wrote:
Eura wrote:
It is assumed that with regards to this sort of matter, the host has extensive powers in the Olympics because of how hard it is to host the thing. It's not really up to you. Look at it this way. If you continue posting what has been retconned and the host clearly is not happy with, and do not edit your post, the following will happen:

1. People will ignore your RP events and won't be punished for contradicting them, as Liventia recommended on the last page.
2. You will not receive RP bonus for future RP's, and may have it wiped clean altogether if you persist enough to inconvenience the host.
3. You'll make people very unhappy with you when it is a completely avoidable situation.
4. I can't speak with any authority on this, and I'm sure KP would rather avoid this, but it is possible that you could eventually be kicked out if you escalate the issue much further.

Finally, it is an unwritten rule of RPing that you cannot force someone into RPing military conflict without their agreement. You should know this if you've been on NS for more than a week and have ever even gone near II.


Who did? You can't say me because I didn't say I declare war plus, I really do not appreciate the bad comments on Britonisea because I know it is an, RP but I know this is how you feel in real. Oh, also I am adding this to my Roster. Please no bad mouth about Britonisea unless you ask. But you can talk about Britonisea in a good way or a sporting way. Or if you are talking about a team "Those Britonish were s***" is okay.

This may sound stupid but I'm serious. Thanks. Enjoying my first Olympics though.


I'm glad you're enjoying your first Olympics but this:

Britonisea wrote:Future RP Here


Not cool. As usual, I speak with no authority but it is expected that you to write the RP before pressing post.
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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:19 am

I'm not going to quote that post above me since it's too long, but nobody accused Britonisea of trying to declare war. That accusation was directed at GVH, and I have the telegrams to prove it's true if anyone questions it. That being said, I have no reason to believe GVH is trying to deny what happened. And I'm quite sure you can't forcibly stop users from saying what they want about your nation or its people. It would be one thing if they tried to declare war (as mentioned earlier) but if they're just criticizing you, I'm quite sure that's fair game no matter what. Again though, it's up to KP to decide, but I'm sure he'd agree.

But Brit - don't be paranoid. Not every criticism is directed at you.
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Postby Buyan » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:27 am

Some important pointers to explain Britonesia's posting pattern.

@Greg: there was a rather edgy bit of post in Eurans RP. Although it was cheek-in-mouth I presume, I understand why Brit was not amused. The bit has been deleted (although he forgot the bit about Northern Brit) and quite hopefully, it's the end of that.

@Sarian: there was a tad of RP in that post, but Brit - I suppose - was discontent with the content. As there was a later post already, all he could do was replace it by the notice "Further RP to come". Not an elegant solution, but excusable.
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Postby Britonisea » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:43 am

The Sarian wrote:
Britonisea wrote:
Who did? You can't say me because I didn't say I declare war plus, I really do not appreciate the bad comments on Britonisea because I know it is an, RP but I know this is how you feel in real. Oh, also I am adding this to my Roster. Please no bad mouth about Britonisea unless you ask. But you can talk about Britonisea in a good way or a sporting way. Or if you are talking about a team "Those Britonish were s***" is okay.

This may sound stupid but I'm serious. Thanks. Enjoying my first Olympics though.


I'm glad you're enjoying your first Olympics but this:

Britonisea wrote:Future RP Here


Not cool. As usual, I speak with no authority but it is expected that you to write the RP before pressing post.


I am re-writing the whole post.

Buyan wrote:Some important pointers to explain Britonesia's posting pattern.

@Greg: there was a rather edgy bit of post in Eurans RP. Although it was cheek-in-mouth I presume, I understand why Brit was not amused. The bit has been deleted (although he forgot the bit about Northern Brit) and quite hopefully, it's the end of that.

@Sarian: there was a tad of RP in that post, but Brit - I suppose - was discontent with the content. As there was a later post already, all he could do was replace it by the notice "Further RP to come". Not an elegant solution, but excusable.


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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:55 am

Hazamaeia wrote:I don't think this is supposed to happen:

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according to the past badminton events at the RL Olympic, country that has more than one pair at mixed double event would never met other than in the final or bronze medal match.

2008 (Indonesia and PRC sent 2); 2012 (PRC sent 2, separated in group phase, met only in final); 2004 (Denmark, PRC, S. Korea, and Indonesia sent 2, round separated in top and bottom half, the Danish pairs met only in bronze medal match)

It's also happened in Archery already with Jennifer Guyton and Yvonne Crump. Although how it works there is based on skill and they sort of ended up as opposite seeds with Guyton #15 and Crump at #50. And given how my archers are seeded, I have a bad feeling of Lidija Kovic and Kira Marcinko facing each other in either the rounds just before the medals or the medal matches. Especially if Marika also lasts that long.

Either way, I've been pretty happy with how you RP with that newspaper. It's good enough to rival some of the best.
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Postby Eura » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:07 am

Britonisea wrote:
Eura wrote:
It is assumed that with regards to this sort of matter, the host has extensive powers in the Olympics because of how hard it is to host the thing. It's not really up to you. Look at it this way. If you continue posting what has been retconned and the host clearly is not happy with, and do not edit your post, the following will happen:

1. People will ignore your RP events and won't be punished for contradicting them, as Liventia recommended on the last page.
2. You will not receive RP bonus for future RP's, and may have it wiped clean altogether if you persist enough to inconvenience the host.
3. You'll make people very unhappy with you when it is a completely avoidable situation.
4. I can't speak with any authority on this, and I'm sure KP would rather avoid this, but it is possible that you could eventually be kicked out if you escalate the issue much further.

Finally, it is an unwritten rule of RPing that you cannot force someone into RPing military conflict without their agreement. You should know this if you've been on NS for more than a week and have ever even gone near II.


Who did? You can't say me because I didn't say I declare war plus, I really do not appreciate the bad comments on Britonisea because I know it is an, RP but I know this is how you feel in real. Oh, also I am adding this to my Roster. Please no bad mouth about Britonisea unless you ask. But you can talk about Britonisea in a good way or a sporting way. Or if you are talking about a team "Those Britonish were s***" is okay.

This may sound stupid but I'm serious. Thanks. Enjoying my first Olympics though.


Err, I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about GVH. That was really, really obvious. Also, the Euran government will badmouth whatever countries it chooses in private. Your displeasure has been noted and dismissed.

I really do not appreciate the bad comments on Britonisea because I know it is an, RP but I know this is how you feel in real.


In the words of a man who died long ago, is this real life, or is it just fantasy?

Oh, also I am adding this to my Roster.


My heart is broken.

Please no bad mouth about Britonisea unless you ask.


Other users characters are perfectly entitled to be disrespectful to other nations in the multiverse. There's a whole forum where peoples nations shoot at and kill each other, did you know that? Unbelievable, I know.

I won't discuss such matters any further, bar this;

Buyan wrote:Some important pointers to explain Britonesia's posting pattern.

@Greg: there was a rather edgy bit of post in Eurans RP. Although it was cheek-in-mouth I presume, I understand why Brit was not amused. The bit has been deleted (although he forgot the bit about Northern Brit) and quite hopefully, it's the end of that.


Tongue-in-cheek is the phrase just so you know. More importantly, I didn't delete the mention of Britonesia in my RP. The edit you can see was an alteration to my description of the events at the shooting.
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Postby Buyan » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:25 am

Eura wrote:
Buyan wrote:Some important pointers to explain Britonesia's posting pattern.

@Greg: there was a rather edgy bit of post in Eurans RP. Although it was cheek-in-mouth I presume, I understand why Brit was not amused. The bit has been deleted (although he forgot the bit about Northern Brit) and quite hopefully, it's the end of that.


Tongue-in-cheek is the phrase just so you know. More importantly, I didn't delete the mention of Britonesia in my RP. The edit you can see was an alteration to my description of the events at the shooting.


Hm... I stand corrected. Twice, to be correct.

So at least something in my post is correct.
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Postby Eura » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:27 am

Buyan wrote:
Eura wrote:
Tongue-in-cheek is the phrase just so you know. More importantly, I didn't delete the mention of Britonesia in my RP. The edit you can see was an alteration to my description of the events at the shooting.


Hm... I stand corrected. Twice, to be correct.

So at least something in my post is correct.


I went back for a moment and thought you were right, then realised I was right. What a merry go round!
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Postby The Kytler Peninsulae » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:30 pm

Some of you on IRC will have noticed how anxious I have been in the last few days of hosting.

Every mistake feels like a dagger to the heart. Every TG is awaited with dread, every morning check on the Problem Alerts thread is tearing me apart, every missed event, every scorination slip, every error puts me closer to a potential legitimate panic attack.

The last two days of scorination have taken so long because I have actually had panic attacks in the middle of them. I took today off work because I had another panic attack on checking the Problem Alerts thread to find the tennis was completely broken. I've just had another panic attack from basically the moment I posted the results without the gymnastics.

I know - and every one of you knows, but dare not admit it because you're mostly too polite - that I am the worst Olympic host ever. I have proven this on many occasions, couldn't even complete a small regional Games, and my limitations are being ruthlessly exposed. Every other host managed all 26 - and sometimes more! - sports. I haven't. Every other host got things right. I haven't. Every other host has been able to follow their schedule. I haven't. I'd love to know the one nation who voted to re-open bids, because whoever you are, you were wise and prescient. The only one.

I'm sorry for everyone else.
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Postby Nova Anglicana » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:44 pm

The Kytler Peninsulae wrote:Some of you on IRC will have noticed how anxious I have been in the last few days of hosting.

Every mistake feels like a dagger to the heart. Every TG is awaited with dread, every morning check on the Problem Alerts thread is tearing me apart, every missed event, every scorination slip, every error puts me closer to a potential legitimate panic attack.

The last two days of scorination have taken so long because I have actually had panic attacks in the middle of them. I took today off work because I had another panic attack on checking the Problem Alerts thread to find the tennis was completely broken. I've just had another panic attack from basically the moment I posted the results without the gymnastics.

I know - and every one of you knows, but dare not admit it because you're mostly too polite - that I am the worst Olympic host ever. I have proven this on many occasions, couldn't even complete a small regional Games, and my limitations are being ruthlessly exposed. Every other host managed all 26 - and sometimes more! - sports. I haven't. Every other host got things right. I haven't. Every other host has been able to follow their schedule. I haven't. I'd love to know the one nation who voted to re-open bids, because whoever you are, you were wise and prescient. The only one.

I'm sorry for everyone else.


KP, I think that many people in this competition are simply grateful that we have a host. I think the opportunity to RP and explore sports that don't receive much airtime in this forum is invaluable. As far as I know, you have responded to the problems and fixed them, which is all we can ask from a host. We all know that hosting the Olympics is an incredible amount of work and there are going to be mistakes and that we must have patience with our host. So, from the bottom of my heart, I thank you for taking on this endeavor.

As to your mental health, I don't think any one of us can be frustrated with you. These things are so far beyond our ken (or at least mine, I won't speak for anyone) that we don't have the right to criticize you. I have been with friends as they have had panic attacks and they are paralyzing. For someone sitting on the outside, I feel so useless when all I can do is try to be as calm and comforting as possible and wait for the storm to pass. I cannot imagine what it feels like to be a person experiencing one. NS should, in some degree, relieve RL problems rather than cause them. The simplest thing I can say is that I don't blame you in any way and that I support you wholeheartedly.
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Postby Commerce Heights » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:01 pm

The Kytler Peninsulae wrote:Some of you on IRC will have noticed how anxious I have been in the last few days of hosting.

Every mistake feels like a dagger to the heart. Every TG is awaited with dread, every morning check on the Problem Alerts thread is tearing me apart, every missed event, every scorination slip, every error puts me closer to a potential legitimate panic attack.

The last two days of scorination have taken so long because I have actually had panic attacks in the middle of them. I took today off work because I had another panic attack on checking the Problem Alerts thread to find the tennis was completely broken. I've just had another panic attack from basically the moment I posted the results without the gymnastics.

I know - and every one of you knows, but dare not admit it because you're mostly too polite - that I am the worst Olympic host ever. I have proven this on many occasions, couldn't even complete a small regional Games, and my limitations are being ruthlessly exposed. Every other host managed all 26 - and sometimes more! - sports. I haven't. Every other host got things right. I haven't. Every other host has been able to follow their schedule. I haven't. I'd love to know the one nation who voted to re-open bids, because whoever you are, you were wise and prescient. The only one.

I'm sorry for everyone else.

The I Olympic Winter Games were scheduled over sixteen days. It actually took me twenty-nine days to finish. You could make excuses for me about how I had to write a brand-new scorinator for it and it wasn’t as well-developed as xkoranate is now, but still, those were winter games with fewer events, generally much simpler competition structures, and only forty nations entering. The women’s team nordic combined and ski jumping events had just two entries!

If you need to adjust the schedule, then adjust the schedule. If you need to take a break, then take a break. We can wait. If you complete half the events and spell most of the athletes’ names correctly, you’ll already be a better Olympic host than Quakmybush was! If you make it to the end, even if it takes much longer than you planned, and RP the ceremonies, you’ll be a better Olympic host than I was my first time.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:13 pm

Nova Anglicana wrote:
The Kytler Peninsulae wrote:Some of you on IRC will have noticed how anxious I have been in the last few days of hosting.

Every mistake feels like a dagger to the heart. Every TG is awaited with dread, every morning check on the Problem Alerts thread is tearing me apart, every missed event, every scorination slip, every error puts me closer to a potential legitimate panic attack.

The last two days of scorination have taken so long because I have actually had panic attacks in the middle of them. I took today off work because I had another panic attack on checking the Problem Alerts thread to find the tennis was completely broken. I've just had another panic attack from basically the moment I posted the results without the gymnastics.

I know - and every one of you knows, but dare not admit it because you're mostly too polite - that I am the worst Olympic host ever. I have proven this on many occasions, couldn't even complete a small regional Games, and my limitations are being ruthlessly exposed. Every other host managed all 26 - and sometimes more! - sports. I haven't. Every other host got things right. I haven't. Every other host has been able to follow their schedule. I haven't. I'd love to know the one nation who voted to re-open bids, because whoever you are, you were wise and prescient. The only one.

I'm sorry for everyone else.


KP, I think that many people in this competition are simply grateful that we have a host. I think the opportunity to RP and explore sports that don't receive much airtime in this forum is invaluable. As far as I know, you have responded to the problems and fixed them, which is all we can ask from a host. We all know that hosting the Olympics is an incredible amount of work and there are going to be mistakes and that we must have patience with our host. So, from the bottom of my heart, I thank you for taking on this endeavor.

As to your mental health, I don't think any one of us can be frustrated with you. These things are so far beyond our ken (or at least mine, I won't speak for anyone) that we don't have the right to criticize you. I have been with friends as they have had panic attacks and they are paralyzing. For someone sitting on the outside, I feel so useless when all I can do is try to be as calm and comforting as possible and wait for the storm to pass. I cannot imagine what it feels like to be a person experiencing one. NS should, in some degree, relieve RL problems rather than cause them. The simplest thing I can say is that I don't blame you in any way and that I support you wholeheartedly.

I know what it feels like and it is even more hellish for the person experiencing one than being one sitting on the outside. I've also got to admit that I don't host as I am afraid of my mental health and migraines being a liability. The migraines can stop me from doing anything all day long as I tend to become heavily nauseous and unable to see straight. The migraines have even triggered panic attacks during a migraine and merely even thinking about them too much.
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Postby Electrum » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:19 pm

Kytler, you are doing an excellent job at these games. We all make mistakes and things get inevitably missed, but don't make those normal things put you down like that. Pick yourself back up and take some time. There's no rush, and as long as you scorinate every event, no one minds at all, no matter how long it takes
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Postby The Kytler Peninsulae » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:32 pm

Commerce Heights wrote:
The Kytler Peninsulae wrote:Some of you on IRC will have noticed how anxious I have been in the last few days of hosting.

Every mistake feels like a dagger to the heart. Every TG is awaited with dread, every morning check on the Problem Alerts thread is tearing me apart, every missed event, every scorination slip, every error puts me closer to a potential legitimate panic attack.

The last two days of scorination have taken so long because I have actually had panic attacks in the middle of them. I took today off work because I had another panic attack on checking the Problem Alerts thread to find the tennis was completely broken. I've just had another panic attack from basically the moment I posted the results without the gymnastics.

I know - and every one of you knows, but dare not admit it because you're mostly too polite - that I am the worst Olympic host ever. I have proven this on many occasions, couldn't even complete a small regional Games, and my limitations are being ruthlessly exposed. Every other host managed all 26 - and sometimes more! - sports. I haven't. Every other host got things right. I haven't. Every other host has been able to follow their schedule. I haven't. I'd love to know the one nation who voted to re-open bids, because whoever you are, you were wise and prescient. The only one.

I'm sorry for everyone else.

The I Olympic Winter Games were scheduled over sixteen days. It actually took me twenty-nine days to finish. You could make excuses for me about how I had to write a brand-new scorinator for it and it wasn’t as well-developed as xkoranate is now, but still, those were winter games with fewer events, generally much simpler competition structures, and only forty nations entering. The women’s team nordic combined and ski jumping events had just two entries!

If you need to adjust the schedule, then adjust the schedule. If you need to take a break, then take a break. We can wait. If you complete half the events and spell most of the athletes’ names correctly, you’ll already be a better Olympic host than Quakmybush was! If you make it to the end, even if it takes much longer than you planned, and RP the ceremonies, you’ll be a better Olympic host than I was my first time.


Considering that I have always seen you as the definitive Olympic host - creating xkoranate obviously has a lot to do with that, of course - that means a heck of a lot. I hadn't realised that you had that experience, much less with the much smaller Winter Games!

I've been speaking to Zwangzug, who has been incredibly supportive; my RL partner, ditto. I have been given ample IC justification for a postponement. (Thanks, Greg!) And I think my intended schedule of 23 undilated days - even accounting for Liventia handling several sports, including the notorious time sinks of sailing and equestrian - was, in retrospect, perhaps too ambitious.

I anticipate taking tomorrow off, and using the "bought time" to consider alternatives. The support on here is overwhelming - I feared that pausing the Games was an act of betrayal to the RPers on here, but this reaction has disproven that in staggering fashion.
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Todd McCloud
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Postby Todd McCloud » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:51 pm

The Kytler Peninsulae wrote:Some of you on IRC will have noticed how anxious I have been in the last few days of hosting.

Every mistake feels like a dagger to the heart. Every TG is awaited with dread, every morning check on the Problem Alerts thread is tearing me apart, every missed event, every scorination slip, every error puts me closer to a potential legitimate panic attack.

The last two days of scorination have taken so long because I have actually had panic attacks in the middle of them. I took today off work because I had another panic attack on checking the Problem Alerts thread to find the tennis was completely broken. I've just had another panic attack from basically the moment I posted the results without the gymnastics.

I know - and every one of you knows, but dare not admit it because you're mostly too polite - that I am the worst Olympic host ever. I have proven this on many occasions, couldn't even complete a small regional Games, and my limitations are being ruthlessly exposed. Every other host managed all 26 - and sometimes more! - sports. I haven't. Every other host got things right. I haven't. Every other host has been able to follow their schedule. I haven't. I'd love to know the one nation who voted to re-open bids, because whoever you are, you were wise and prescient. The only one.

I'm sorry for everyone else.

The Olympics are tough as balls to embark on and finish. While I've never done them before, I've seen how tough it's been for past hosts. And they didn't get them right all the time. But that's fine because we're only human and we have real lives outside of this. Most people understand that, and for those who don't, well, they can have an Olympics all to themselves if they want.

I don't hold a lot of clout like the others who have already commented do. But dammit dude, you need to give yourself more credit because you've put in a lot of good work for this. And we're grateful for what you've done. Perhaps we don't say that enough to you or any of the other hosts, but I think it's true.

Look if you need to take some time off, I'm fine with that. I'm sure others are too and if they aren't, well too bad. And if you need any help from us, in any capacity, I'm certain there's going to be several people willing to help. That's because we a community, and community has unity built right in the word. That's not unintentional. It's what we are.
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Free Swiss States
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Postby Free Swiss States » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:03 pm

For what it's worth, I have found the Olympics to be very enjoyably so far. Coming on here and checking the results is always a highlight of the day for me and any technical issues are way, way forgotten by the satisfaction I gain in participating in such an awesome event with so many other awesome people. So thank you for hosting this, I have only appreciation for you taking on so much work, time, and stress just to make everyone else's day a little brighter.
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Kelssek
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Postby Kelssek » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:14 pm

Every other host managed all 26 - and sometimes more! - sports. I haven't. Every other host got things right. I haven't. Every other host has been able to follow their schedule. I haven't.


Here is a post I wrote when I hosted the 5th Summer Olympics (Outineau):
Kelssek wrote:I think I should apologise for how poorly I have run these Olympics. The community has been quite supportive but I personally feel I could and should have done much better, especially with the group stages of team events, which at this point I'm basically just crossing my fingers and hoping they've been done correctly. Many of the errors and problems have just been pure carelessness on my part. I perhaps also have been unnecessarily harsh with participants who annoyed me - that could've been handled better.

I will be away from the internets next week, meaning there's a longish break after Day 20, after which I'll resume the rest of the Games. I seek your understanding, I was planning to finish before this trip, but the unforseen extra work shifts in that week where there was only one per day had a knock-on effect.


Oh yeah, I fell behind the schedule so bad it conflicted with a trekking trip I'd long ago booked and planned, and so there was over a week with no scorination at all (and some people who didn't read my OOC post got worried cause there was no contact with me at all).

I messed up one of the team sports so badly the whole group stage was retconned. I scorinated two qualifications for one of the field events without realizing it. And lots of those other little things which are inevitable and due to the fact that you're a human being.

Kytler, take a break, a day or two off not even thinking about this will probably do you good. You're seeing mistakes as a personal failing, when mistakes are really just mistakes which no one remembers later on - which is exactly why you looked at past hosts and assumed all previous Olympics were perfect. Well, except Quakmybush, who shall carry that mark of shame forevermore.

I have full confidence you'll finish this, but make sure you're doing that in a way that doesn't affect your off-line life is the most important thing -- when you say it's affecting your work that's a big red flag to me. Step back and come back to this when you've got your head in the right place.

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Liventia
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Postby Liventia » Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:30 am

Not sure there's a lot more that I can add to the above.

Let me know if you need me to help with any other sports too, if that helps ease the pressure. (Specifically thinking gymnastics and any other, as you call them, 'time sinks'.)

For what it's worth, all three Games I hosted also had days off built in – I can't remember a recent Games without them – and they've hardly been 100% issue free either.
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The Kytler Peninsulae
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Postby The Kytler Peninsulae » Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:58 am

My tentative thoughts on this are as follows:

* Today (Day 7) becomes an off day, ICly as well as OOCly, with the IC justification being a "day of peace" in reflection of the Aardswood shooting incident. This replaces and incorporates the planned off day later in the Games for the remembrance of the Lasft terrorist attacks. I may RP as much later today, as it'd be nice to focus on that rather than number crunching.

Liventia scorinates the gymnastics qualification, as that ICly took place on day 6, and should be RPed accordingly. The bonus values used throughout day 6 would apply as well.

* The remaining days are scorinated largely on the dilated basis used at recent Games, with two scorination rounds per IC day, though a full programme should be possible on Saturdays and potentially this Sunday. (Sundays thereafter will have shorter and earlier scorination sessions, to allow for completion before NFL games start at 1700 UTC/1800 BST/1300 ET.) Saturday cutoffs are also liable to be movable feasts, and a split scorination round is possible, as my RL partner will be watching Doctor Who on the TV that's attached to the scorination machine.

There are, I think, 17 Games days remaining. As a result, this new schedule would likely lead to a finish date in late September.
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Postby Sargossa » Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:35 am

To be honest KP I think you're only failing here is one we all suffer from (expect possibly CH who I expect may be an AI gone rogue), you're only human. This is my sixth Olympics and your hosting is right up there with the best of them. Yes, there's been a couple of little errors here and there but that's the nature of the beast and you responded to them and reacted to them in a suitably hostly way. I personally think you're doing a grand job. Not being polite, just a plain statement of fact.
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Postby Schutzenphalia and West Ruhntuhnkuhnland » Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:38 am

I can only add that you've given us plenty to RP with your detailed description of the setting, so we can still have plenty to write even if off-days are necessary. I hope you take as much time as you need.

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Postby Liventia » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:15 am

I will scorinate the women's artistic gymnastics all-around qualification tonight at approximately 1900 BST (subject to change), ICly held on Day 6.
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Postby Britonisea » Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:45 am

The Kytler Peninsulae wrote:Some of you on IRC will have noticed how anxious I have been in the last few days of hosting.

Every mistake feels like a dagger to the heart. Every TG is awaited with dread, every morning check on the Problem Alerts thread is tearing me apart, every missed event, every scorination slip, every error puts me closer to a potential legitimate panic attack.

The last two days of scorination have taken so long because I have actually had panic attacks in the middle of them. I took today off work because I had another panic attack on checking the Problem Alerts thread to find the tennis was completely broken. I've just had another panic attack from basically the moment I posted the results without the gymnastics.

I know - and every one of you knows, but dare not admit it because you're mostly too polite - that I am the worst Olympic host ever. I have proven this on many occasions, couldn't even complete a small regional Games, and my limitations are being ruthlessly exposed. Every other host managed all 26 - and sometimes more! - sports. I haven't. Every other host got things right. I haven't. Every other host has been able to follow their schedule. I haven't. I'd love to know the one nation who voted to re-open bids, because whoever you are, you were wise and prescient. The only one.

I'm sorry for everyone else.


Your apology is not needed. Every games has had issues and all sorts in both Nationstates and real life. So far, I am enjoying this Olympics so much and I am happy that you are hosting such a sporting event. I know about these Panic Attacks- They are not nice, but I think that you are thinking too much. Just focus on the best of these games. Have breaks between scorinating (which you already are probably doing), go for a walk, have a great sleep, stay away from chocolate and... Yeah.
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Postby Paradystopia » Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:21 am

The Kytler Peninsulae wrote:My tentative thoughts on this are as follows:

* Today (Day 7) becomes an off day, ICly as well as OOCly, with the IC justification being a "day of peace" in reflection of the Aardswood shooting incident. This replaces and incorporates the planned off day later in the Games for the remembrance of the Lasft terrorist attacks. I may RP as much later today, as it'd be nice to focus on that rather than number crunching.

Liventia scorinates the gymnastics qualification, as that ICly took place on day 6, and should be RPed accordingly. The bonus values used throughout day 6 would apply as well.

* The remaining days are scorinated largely on the dilated basis used at recent Games, with two scorination rounds per RL day, though a full programme should be possible on Saturdays and potentially this Sunday. (Sundays thereafter will have shorter and earlier scorination sessions, to allow for completion before NFL games start at 1700 UTC/1800 BST/1300 ET.)

There are, I think, 17 Games days remaining. As a result, this new schedule would likely lead to a finish date in late September.

I (and I believe everyone else here) fully support any changes to schedule you have to make, or any future changes you may make.

Having hosted merely the athletic side of the Esportivan Autumn Festival (which was still smaller than the athletic portion of the Olympics), I understand somewhat the burden of the scorination of such a massive scale event. I can only come to the conclusion that anyone willing to host the Olympics is completely insane.

Any nation with that degree of utter madness will always have Paradystopi support.

Hang in there Kytler, and do what you need to do.
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