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German American States

The start of German American history was in the 1830s. In the United States, it was the start of the First Industrial Revolution, and immigrants from Germany were flowing into America. They mostly settled in the Midwest and the Great Lakes region. They had hoped that they could find a haven and better opportunities in the US, but they faced hostile Nativists who opposed their living in the US. The German Americans were tired of being tormented by the Nativists, so some declared independence from the US. These small states were not big, some covering no more than a city block. While they claimed to be independent, they did not want to face opposition from the much stronger US government, they went underground. They realized that they could not keep up like this, so some decided to think of founding a German settlement in untaken land in the Caribbean. As their ships set sail, they seemed to be sucked into an alternate dimension around the Bermuda Triangle, into what is now known as the Zweittewelt, the world where the German American States is. The different exploration companies set up settlements on what is now the German American States, and after a bitter North-South war in 1870, the States were formed under the first government in 1876. Various changes in governance took place, and now is under the Dritterepublik, a democratic republic. Currently, the nation is amidst nationalist fervor after the assassination of President Johann Kruger.

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Felix

The Federal Republic of Felix was founded in 1875 when the men of Felix declared itself independent from the US, UK, France, Spain and Germany and made it's own state. There was no war of independence as the states formerly controlling it, just gave it up. The first president of Felix was Giovanni Napolitano of the Liberal Party and he was elected in 1876 and had a 10 year term. In 1886 the people of Felix elected a new president, Leonardo Di Francesco of the Conservative Party, and reduced the amount of years for a term from 10 to 5 years. Fast forward to 2009 and Luis Garcia is President of Felix from the Liberal Party. Since those years Felix has yet to fight a war and unemployment was bellow 5% over the past 20 years. The Liberals have maintained a alliance with the United Party and has yet to be kicked out of office (last time Felix had a Conservative government was 1986). But then the troubles of foreign forces caused the Felixian populace to be in a state of panic where the Liberal government was kicked out (via ballot) and it's more militaristic former ally, the United Party was voted in. Economically, socially and politically the Libs and the Uniteds were the same but the UP was pro-military formation. Unfortunately the UP has failed to live up to their "rapid military formation" in their charter and the nation is slowly drifting to the increasingly fascistic and radical Nationalist Party.





German American States
Ah, ya got me there! Just kidding.

~Three seasons of domestic leagues(football)
~Familiarity with the used scorinator(more on that later!)
~AAFA Season 1
~Federation Club Cup 1

Felix
~Copa Gaveo 1-3 and 5-6 (as Gaveo)
~Esquarium Cup I (as Gaveo)
~U-15 WC 6 (as Felix)
~4 seasons worth of Felixian club football.



None other than the good old NSFS(Newest version, of course)!



Great question! Both of us feel that we need to bring the tournament back to its good old nature, and by that we mean NO QUALIFYING! That's right, we feel the qualifying idea, although interesting at first, is just not the way to run the CE. We will go right to the group stages of the Campionato, ideally cutting off signups around 48 nations. If we hit 48 nations right on the mark(which will probably not happen), we'll separate the groups into 8 groups of 6 teams, with 4 groups playing in Felix and 4 in the States. If it gets to some other even number(52 nations being the max amount), we will make changes as needed. If it gets to an odd number, we will either allow for one more team to enter or have to cut the last person to sign up. After each team plays each other in the group stages, the top 2 teams will advance to the Round of 16, with the teams split between Felix and GAS. Standard procedure ensues.



We will use a cumulative bonus, using a grading scale from 0-4. Be ready for us to hand out decimals, but within reason, probably to the second or third decimal point at most. As always, quality over quantity. 15 paragraphs of filler and big spacing thus will not do as well as a couple of paragraphs of vivid details. We would both like interesting stories to read and grade, as would the rest of the region.



~H2H
~Goal difference
~Goals scored
~HTH GD
~HTH goals scored
~HTH away goals

These are loosely based on the RL FIFA tiebreakers. God help us if there needs to be a playoff match, but that's what'll happen if after all the tiebreakers its still knotted up.



Fantastic. If you have a question pertaining to anything about the bid, TG me or Felix, ask here, on IRC, or carrier pigeon. Good luck finding our addresses.

Hi, I don't know if I can sign up in this, I created the nation yesterday but I forgot the password, so I decided to create this again.

Also, this is the flammable puppet of SJG.

Flammable American States 2 wrote:Hi, I don't know if I can sign up in this, I created the nation yesterday but I forgot the password, so I decided to create this again.

Also, this is the flammable puppet of SJG.

Confirming this

Let's do this thing!

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Things you need to know about Boring Paradise

As many of you know hopefully who I am. The country was created from gaining independence from the ruthless Eastfield Lodge as of many other countries/states, like Westfield House and the rest are in Paradise Storage. The Paradisians call this the Borishium Empire for some reason but not sure why. Then came the separation of Boring Paradise and Westfield House as they gain independence and moved to Esportiva while the main body was left in Rushmore.

You may have read my RPs in World Cup 66 and 68 which shows a bit on the freak accident that lead Boring Paradise to Center of Esportiva as a set of two islands. When I say center it is nearly the center surrounded by the Felixian Sea and Licentian Channel. The country is split into two continents where they both cross, called Terrabondante and Mardujsha. There is no dispute on which one to be as the government is still the same.

The ruler of the country and the empire is the Malik Family, (That includes the one in the RPs I mentioned earlier), the current figure head is Lord Malik the Second but he is in his dying moments so it should be Lord Malik the Third any time soon. The country itself is one of the top 5 percent for the most developed and one of them 10% for safest. Not only that but the government is corrupt but it has a fats growing economy.

RP Bonuses

As of me I will be using a RP Range from 0 to 2 but for the rosters I will be doing 0 to 3.

I will be judging it on Quality not Quantity as well for the Tournament. Also It may differ with the Quality of it.

Scorination and Tie Breakers

Will be scorinating with NSFS 3.0.1 but then using Table Generator for the following tiebreakers

Points
Goal Difference
Head-to-head goal difference
Goals For
Head-to-head goals for
Goals Against
Play a Match between Teams (Only if needed)

Format

From what I can see there has been 44 sign-ups so I am planning to close them at 48 and the make 8 groups of 6 with a double round-robin. The tie-breakers will be enforced as well. I hope you will be fine with that. Then there will be single leg knockout started with a round of 16 with the top 2 of each group going through.

Or

If we finish at 44, I will be enforcing qualifying. The hosts and the previous champion will automatically qualify. The other 42 nations will be put into 6 groups of 7 and play each other twice. The top five teams of each group will go through. Meaning 30 nations will go through as well as the previous champion and the hosts. The group stage will consist of 8 groups of 4 and will be a single leg like in the World Cup and so would be the rest of it..

Experience

In my recent times I have hosted many things such as...

16 seasons of Domestic Football.
3 Cups of Domestic Football
1 season of Domestic Cricket
1 season of Domestic Beach Soccer
Paradisian Cup
International Firestorm Cup II
International Firestorm Cup III
Friendly Cup X

Any Questions? Feel Free To Ask.

A couple of questions if I may, BP.

Why do you think that you deserve to host this tournament over the other two sets of hosts? What advantage does your own bid hold over their bids?

As for tiebreakers, why are you using GD over H2H GD? This seems arbitrary at best, and - to me at least - unfairly skews the system.

EDIT - Upon rereading, I've noticed that all the bids contains tiebreakers in the same order (i.e GD before H2H GD/Points), and as such I'd like to extend the same question to all the bidders.

Kirigiri-no-Mikoto wrote:A couple of questions if I may, BP.

Why do you think that you deserve to host this tournament over the other two sets of hosts? What advantage does your own bid hold over their bids?

As for tiebreakers, why are you using GD over H2H GD? This seems arbitrary at best, and - to me at least - unfairly skews the system.

1) I just think that I would host it over the other bids because of the amount experience they had and are much younger in nation compare to me.

2) I am just experimenting the tie-breakers.

Boring Paradise wrote:1) I just think that I would host it over the other bids because of the amount experience they had and are much younger in nation compare to me.

2) I am just experimenting the tie-breakers.

Frankly speaking, BP, your first answer does little to convince me. Unless I have been frequenting the wrong website every day for the past six months, every single one of the co-hosts have been more active in sports RPing that you have in the last two cycles or so. I hardly think your foundation date is a convincing argument for your 'experience' either. In fact, I'd say that the other prospective hosts, despite their appreciably later foundation, have much more in the way of 'relevant' hosting experience compared to you.

Re your second answer, I don't like to think that the CE is being thought of as a convenient platform for experimentation. I'll refrain from commenting further until all three bidding combos have replied to my question.

EDIT - Fixed minor typo.
EDIT 2 - Clarified tiebreakers with GAS over IRC, but the question still stands for the NSI-Ytt duo.

Kirigiri-no-Mikoto wrote:

Boring Paradise wrote:1) I just think that I would host it over the other bids because of the amount experience they had and are much younger in nation compare to me.

2) I am just experimenting the tie-breakers.

Frankly speaking, BP, your first answer does little to convince me. Unless I have been frequenting the wrong website every day for the past six months, every single one of the co-hosts have been more active in sports RPing that you have in the last two cycles or so. I hardly think your foundation date is a convincing argument for your 'experience' either. In fact, I'd say that the other prospective hosts, despite their appreciably later foundation, have much more in the way of 'relevant' hosting experience compared to you.

Re your second answer, I don't like to think that the CE is being thought of as a convenient platform for experimentation. I'll refrain from commenting further until all three bidding combos have replied to my question.

EDIT - Fixed minor typo.

1) I don't get the time to do as many RPs, as I got exams coming near me. So I spend more time on that than NS in general.

2) Well I may change it if any more complaints come in on about the tie-breakers.

It's a question not only to BP, but also to the others. I note (one of the most important criteria) that BP opts for double-round robin, contrary to the other two bids. Why exactly? Or why the single-round, for the others?

A question to the NSYtt-bid. "More information on the group stage will come if we are chosen as hosts." Ehm... That makes it hard to pick, guys. You're going Casaran? 2 groups of 24? 16 of 3? Or -RL WC 1950 style- 3 groups of 5, 4 groups of 4, 5 groups of 3, 1 group of 2?

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Actually, we used RL FIFA tiebreakers for the World Cup. There's nothing unusual about that.

I do have a question of my own for the bidders: Why have you chosen to go with NSFS? 2 of the bids use NSFS for scorinator and the other uses xkoranate with the NSFS formula.

Noburu Taiyou wrote:Actually, we used RL FIFA tiebreakers for the World Cup. There's nothing unusual about that.

I do have a question of my own for the bidders: Why have you chosen to go with NSFS? 2 of the bids use NSFS for scorinator and the other uses xkoranate with the NSFS formula.

We both have the most experience with NSFS and know it front and back. We think its better using something we know how to use really well than xkorinate, which we don't have much experience with.

Buyan wrote:It's a question not only to BP, but also to the others. I note (one of the most important criteria) that BP opts for double-round robin, contrary to the other two bids. Why exactly? Or why the single-round, for the others?

Well I decided to kind of follow the European Championships Qualifying when I did the Double-Round Robin, as well as it would include more matches and more RPing for people.

Gregoryisgodistan wrote:

Itanpavia wrote:Sign me up c:

You're in Rushmore. You can't sign up.

Oh, apologies, I misunderstood. Ignore me

A question for the two co-hosted bids (NSI and Ytt, GAS and Felix): why have you chosen to go with two person bids for the tournament ?? And a similar question for BP: why have you chosen to go solo ??

The Licentian Isles wrote:A question for the two co-hosted bids (NSI and Ytt, GAS and Felix): why have you chosen to go with two person bids for the tournament ?? And a similar question for BP: why have you chosen to go solo ??

I just think that if I did go with a partner, it would be hard to communicate with my timings and my co-hosts. But also that there would presumably two sets of cut-offs while in a solo bidder, you get one certain cut-off time.

Edit: Typo

The Licentian Isles wrote:A question for the two co-hosted bids (NSI and Ytt, GAS and Felix): why have you chosen to go with two person bids for the tournament ?? And a similar question for BP: why have you chosen to go solo ??

Well, initially, we just wanted to host together because it'd be a cool thing for us ICly and OOCly and we just wanted to do it together. However, having a co-host has some advantages. I feel that it takes the pressure off both of us and its good to know someone has you back if something happens along the way.

EDIT:

Buyan wrote:It's a question not only to BP, but also to the others. I note (one of the most important criteria) that BP opts for double-round robin, contrary to the other two bids. Why exactly? Or why the single-round, for the others?

Well, all of the past CE's I've been a part of have had a round robin format, and after all, a round robin is closer to the IRL equivalent(I'm looking at you, World Cup). Besides, with the format we have, four matches will definitely be enough for everyone to get a good RPing experience. With the numbers we're looking at as far as the signups go, double-round robin will likely drag on, and we don't want the tournament to last an excessively long time.

Kirigiri-no-Mikoto wrote:EDIT - Upon rereading, I've noticed that all the bids contains tiebreakers in the same order (i.e GD before H2H GD/Points), and as such I'd like to extend the same question to all the bidders.

If it ain't broken, Mizu, why would you fix it, really? It's a pretty fine and fair way to tiebreak stuff, so that's how we're going with this.

The Licentian Isles wrote:A question for the two co-hosted bids (NSI and Ytt, GAS and Felix): why have you chosen to go with two person bids for the tournament ?? And a similar question for BP: why have you chosen to go solo ??

I wasn't exactly planning to do anything a bit after the Baptism of Fire, I must admit. However, Yttribia asked me quite a while ago for assistance as he felt that going solo for a bid would most likely not work, which I need to say was a mistake on my view, as my co-host could and most likely would be able to host this tournament solo as I bare no oppositions to such a fine member. Regardless, he felt he needed a co-host that had some name and could then boost the bid up, hence why I got called. As a result, we now bid against the forces that want to take the name joke farther than we should but still would love to take this tournament seriously as a way to show how our region is developing strongly. Hence why we hope that we are picked, we want to be the folks that will be immortalized as the guys that hosted the legendary tenth Campionato Esportiva.

*hears claps*

Thank you, you're a lovely audience.

Buyan wrote:A question to the NSYtt-bid. "More information on the group stage will come if we are chosen as hosts." Ehm... That makes it hard to pick, guys. You're going Casaran? 2 groups of 24? 16 of 3? Or -RL WC 1950 style- 3 groups of 5, 4 groups of 4, 5 groups of 3, 1 group of 2?

First off, a Casaran CE won't happen if we're selected as hosts.

Secondly, if the forty-four signups are put as they are, then eleven groups of four will be used. The eleven group stage winners will automatically move on to the round of 16. Meanwhile, the ten best runner-ups from the group stage will take part in a one-match playoff, against each-other, to determine who will move onward to the round of sixteen.

We're in, what's the worst that can happen?

Albaie signs up and maybe finally revolve the plot line I began last time or was it the time before it was a long time ago.

We're in, and we request to be in Gregiryisgodistan's group.

Gregoryisnotgodistan wrote:We're in, and we request to be in Gregiryisgodistan's group.

Unfortunately, you are not eligible for this edition, as you have just moved to Esportiva well after this thread has opened.

Sangti wrote:

Gregoryisnotgodistan wrote:We're in, and we request to be in Gregiryisgodistan's group.

Unfortunately, you are not eligible for this edition, as you have just moved to Esportiva well after this thread has opened.

I guess you'll just have to wait to lose to me. And I still want to know who you are.