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Posted: **Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:03 pm**

“One Big Island; One Big World Cup.”

NEWMANISTAN - THE BABBAGE ISLANDS
Official World Cup 49 Hosting Bid

Introduction: We welcome everyone to One Big Island for the 49th running of the World Cup, one that should be highly entertaining given the results of the last one. For decades now, One Big Island’s stature has increased on the international scene and now it’s time to bring the Cup to OBI.

The nations of Newmanistan and The Babbage Islands are excited to team up for this hosting opportunity. For Newmanistan, this is as much as a monumental World Cup as World Cup 50 will be for the world as this Cup will be our tenth such event. The Babbage Islands will be entering the field for the third time but in a short time they have proven themselves to be a valuable participant in the sporting community and more then capable of hosting this event.

Newmanistan’s “frighteningly good” economy makes it more then able to host the event with many outstanding facilities throughout the Empire, including the well-known Tundra Falls Proving Grounds, which would be the site of the final. Transportation around the Empire and hotel accommodations will not be an issue. The Babbage Islands has a thriving economy, and hosting a World Cup should only serve to strengthen it. The nation is known for incredible civil rights.

Now, let us get to the important stuff:

A) Scorination- NSFS 2.0.7 will be used and style modifiers ranging between +/- 3 will be permitted.

B) RP Bonus- Roleplaying is what makes the World Cup great and cumulative RP bonus from the start to the end of qualifying will be used. Quality is much valued over quantity, and things that include originality, variety, humor, use of available information, and interaction with opponents are things that we will be looking for. Your time and effort will be rewarded.

C) Format- Presently we are at 122 signups, not counting CtE’s. This would make fifteen groups of eight again be the format. I have made a note on the sign up thread that further signups might not be accepted after that point. Since groups of 10, 12, and 15 are desirable and any group size over eight nations gets to be too long, this will be the cutoff number. After further discussion, we have decided to allow 137 signups, of 15 groups of nine.

D) Experience- Neither Newmanistan nor The Babbage Islands has co-hosted a World Cup before. This cannot be denied and it is understood if this causes some initial hesitations amongst voters. However, this certainly does not mean there is a lack of experience in this bid, because there is actually a lot of it, and hopefully that experience can ease everyone's mind and that you will feel that the tournament would be in very capable hands. Our experience is as follows:

Newmanistan: The more experienced of the two nations, having hosted the Cup of Harmony on three occasions (33, 35, and 39) and the World Bowl on three occasions (1, 2, and 5). These are the especially relevant tournaments for the World Cup bid as these also use NSFS. Additionally, Newmanistan has hosted two World Baseball Classics (8 & 11), three World Lacrosse Championships (2, 4 & 5), a college basketball series (NSCAA 1), and a stock car racing series. The nation also has an active bid to be hosting the World Cup of Hockey. The Babbage Islands and myself have agreed to scorinate the World Cup, if successful, with her hosting the first half of qualifying, and me the second. This way, overlaps with the World Cup of Hockey (should that bid be successful) should not be a concern as it will either be over, or at such a latter stage where it would not be a hindrance. The Keisler Cup will also be over by then, and Newmanistan will take no additional hosting role while World Cup 49 would be taking place.

The Babbage Islands: In a relative short span of time, The Babbage Islands has gained quite a bit of experience, and her creation of golfinator, a scorinator for golf, shows her commitment to NS Sport and ability to host. With golfinator, The Babbage Islands has hosted three tournaments, one having 96 individual entrants who required scorination of. There is also the First Ultimate World Championships, as well as tournaments in Babbage Rules football and International Rules football. Even with all of that, the most appealing event hosted by the Babbage Islands is the Silver Bowl, which was the “Cup of Harmony” of World Bowl 7. This used NSFS and went without a hitch. Additionally, Babbage Islands has been approved as the host of World Bowl 8, a competition which has 52 entrants and will use NSFS. There will be no conflict with World Bowl 8, as it is not expected to be a long tournament and is expected to end by the end of the month.

E) Hosts Ranking during the Proper
Neither co-host, if accepted, is among the top 20-25 nations in the world, therefore they will not be in “pot 1" if they do not deserve to be. They will be seeded in accordance to their rank, and if it means they are in “pot 4", then pot 4 it will be.

Feel free to ask questions you may have concerning the bid.

Posted: **Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:31 pm**

I can see Star didn't design your bid logo! :lol:

Posted: **Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:02 pm**

Jeruselem wrote:I can see Star didn't design your bid logo!

No, he did not. The logo is the regional flag of OBI in the background; designed by region founder Brightonburg.

Posted: **Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:28 pm**

Newmanistan wrote:
Jeruselem wrote:I can see Star didn't design your bid logo!

No, he did not. The logo is the regional flag of OBI in the background; designed by region founder Brightonburg.

Now, a serious question ... what's the tie breaking methodology for teams on the same points going to be?

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:28 am**

Newmanistan wrote:B) RP Bonus- Roleplaying is what makes the World Cup great and cumulative RP bonus from the start to the end of qualifying will be used. Quality is much valued over quantity, and things that include originality, variety, humor, use of available information, and interaction with opponents are things that we will be looking for. Your time and effort will be rewarded.

Will the cumulative bonus from qualifiers actually be carried through to the Cup proper, as in WC48?

Oh, and I rather think that you've left out a "not" in the following section...

Newmanistan wrote:D) Experience- Neither Newmanistan nor The Babbage Islands has co-hosted a World Cup before. This cannot be denied and it is understood if this causes some initial hesitations amongst voters. However, this certainly does (not ?) mean there is a lack of experience in this bid, because there is actually a lot of it, and hopefully that experience can ease everyone's mind and that you will feel that the tournament would be in very capable hands.

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:48 am**

Bears Armed wrote:Will the cumulative bonus from qualifiers actually be carried through to the Cup proper, as in WC48?

Yes, what will be used here? It caused some controversy in the last edition, so it would be good to clarify things clearly beforehand.
(i.e. new rankings + rp bonus, just new rankings, just rp bonus)

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:11 am**

I for one have no problem with two first time hosts, especially given your broader NS sport experience. Some new WC hosting blood would be welcome.

I also think point E (over host seeding) is unnecessary but admirable.

Otherwise, I have no specific questions that haven't already been raised, and have simply stopped by to comment encouragingly on a couple of issues that seem to concern you.

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:46 am**

Peisandros wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Will the cumulative bonus from qualifiers actually be carried through to the Cup proper, as in WC48?

Yes, what will be used here? It caused some controversy in the last edition, so it would be good to clarify things clearly beforehand.
(i.e. new rankings + rp bonus, just new rankings, just rp bonus)

Newmanistan and I are on different RL schedules at the moment, and I have just responded to his TG on tiebreakers and RP bonuses. I believe that we are agreed on using post-qualifying ranks and resetting RP bonus, effectively treating the Cup qualifying as a separate event from the Cup proper.

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:52 am**

Jeruselem wrote:
Newmanistan wrote:
Jeruselem wrote:I can see Star didn't design your bid logo!

No, he did not. The logo is the regional flag of OBI in the background; designed by region founder Brightonburg.

Now, a serious question ... what's the tie breaking methodology for teams on the same points going to be?

Number of wins
Goal differential
Head-to-head
Goals scored
Playoff game

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:25 am**

Won't hosting the WC clash with the WCoH?

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:00 am**

Bears Armed wrote:
Oh, and I rather think that you've left out a "not" in the following section...
Newmanistan wrote:D) Experience- Neither Newmanistan nor The Babbage Islands has co-hosted a World Cup before. This cannot be denied and it is understood if this causes some initial hesitations amongst voters. However, this certainly does (not ?) mean there is a lack of experience in this bid, because there is actually a lot of it, and hopefully that experience can ease everyone's mind and that you will feel that the tournament would be in very capable hands.

Fixed! Good catch!

Quintessence of Dust wrote:Won't hosting the WC clash with the WCoH?

No. I'm expecting the WCoH to begin by the end of the month and probably around the 24th. I anticipate this will begin around the middle of November given the Baptism of Fire still will come before it. The bid also mentions that The Babbage Islands will scorinate the first leg and myself the second leg. By the time the second leg begins, we're looking at later in November. The WCoH, if not completely finished by then will be in such a later stage (where only one or two games needs a scorination), that if there is an overlap, it will not be anything significant.

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:00 am**

Quintessence of Dust wrote:Won't hosting the WC clash with the WCoH?

Newmanistan wrote:The nation also has an active bid to be hosting the World Cup of Hockey. The Babbage Islands and myself have agreed to scorinate the World Cup, if successful, with her hosting the first half of qualifying, and me the second. This way, overlaps with the World Cup of Hockey (should that bid be successful) should not be a concern as it will either be over, or at such a latter stage where it would not be a hindrance. The Keisler Cup will also be over by then, and Newmanistan will take no additional hosting role while World Cup 49 would be taking place.

We have made provisions for that, should both bids be successful.

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:34 am**

After some discussion on it, our bid will allow each nation to have a maximum of three friendlies per period (pre, mid, post). We are willing to do these scorinations if you wish to schedule them!

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:39 am**

Palmouth supports this bid, and wishes to join you as back up whenever nessary.

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:37 am**

Sarzonia also endorses this bid.

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:58 am**

Swartaz officially endorses this WC49 bid.

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:23 pm**

Needless to say, Das BB supports this bid!

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:31 pm**

BrightonBurg wrote:Needless to say, Das BB supports this bid!

Good to know but if only you had a vote.

(He designed our admittedly not as cool logo as the Dancougar-Macabees bid's logo.)

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:47 pm**

I support this bid, as it would mean I won't have to face Newmanistan until the Cup itself! :roll:

Posted: **Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:03 pm**

Newmanistan wrote:
BrightonBurg wrote:Needless to say, Das BB supports this bid!

Good to know but if only you had a vote.

(He designed our admittedly not as cool logo as the Dancougar-Macabees bid's logo.)

I am not a artist,but I try,hehe

Posted: **Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:30 pm**

Whats the friendly policy in this bid?

As of current physically my country hates this bid, although my real self has it as the current frontrunner do to some discrepencies in other bids.

Posted: **Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:36 pm**

Taeshan wrote:Whats the friendly policy in this bid?

As of current physically my country hates this bid, although my real self has it as the current frontrunner do to some discrepencies in other bids.

Potential co-hosts are under no obligation to answer this type of question as friendlies are not a requirement of World Cup hosting, and are irrelevant to hosting bids under current WCC rules.

Though if they want to answer, that is of course their prerogative.

Posted: **Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:45 pm**

The Archregimancy wrote:
Taeshan wrote:Whats the friendly policy in this bid?

As of current physically my country hates this bid, although my real self has it as the current frontrunner do to some discrepencies in other bids.

Potential co-hosts are under no obligation to answer this type of question as friendlies are not a requirement of World Cup hosting, and are irrelevant to hosting bids under current WCC rules.

Though if they want to answer, that is of course their prerogative.

Obviously. Its not as if i was demanding an answer, it was a simple question. And anyways Arch we've been over this whole point in the Discussion thread. Can you just get over the fact that people may want to know something, and it may effect a decision. >:(

Posted: **Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:56 pm**

Taeshan wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
Taeshan wrote:Whats the friendly policy in this bid?

As of current physically my country hates this bid, although my real self has it as the current frontrunner do to some discrepencies in other bids.

Potential co-hosts are under no obligation to answer this type of question as friendlies are not a requirement of World Cup hosting, and are irrelevant to hosting bids under current WCC rules.

Though if they want to answer, that is of course their prerogative.

Obviously. Its not as if i was demanding an answer, it was a simple question. And anyways Arch we've been over this whole point in the Discussion thread. Can you just get over the fact that people may want to know something, and it may effect a decision.

Well the policy was mentioned in this thread already though not in the original bid because as Arch says friendlies are not immediately relevant to the hosting of the World Cup.

This is something that is done at the host's discretion, and Babbage and I have agreed that we would permit three friendlies per period per team. The reason for this is because we know some people like to play out rivalries with other nations and this is a good way to do it. Having said this, we would like it if people did mainly schedule those kind of games, ones that are important to their nation, and not schedule games because "oh look I have an empty spot that I could fill." In other words (not directed to you, specifically Tae, but in general), don't abuse our leniency on allowance of games.

Posted: **Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:15 pm**

Newmanistan wrote:
Taeshan wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
Taeshan wrote:Whats the friendly policy in this bid?

As of current physically my country hates this bid, although my real self has it as the current frontrunner do to some discrepencies in other bids.

Potential co-hosts are under no obligation to answer this type of question as friendlies are not a requirement of World Cup hosting, and are irrelevant to hosting bids under current WCC rules.

Though if they want to answer, that is of course their prerogative.

Obviously. Its not as if i was demanding an answer, it was a simple question. And anyways Arch we've been over this whole point in the Discussion thread. Can you just get over the fact that people may want to know something, and it may effect a decision.

Well the policy was mentioned in this thread already though not in the original bid because as Arch says friendlies are not immediately relevant to the hosting of the World Cup.

This is something that is done at the host's discretion, and Babbage and I have agreed that we would permit three friendlies per period per team. The reason for this is because we know some people like to play out rivalries with other nations and this is a good way to do it. Having said this, we would like it if people did mainly schedule those kind of games, ones that are important to their nation, and not schedule games because "oh look I have an empty spot that I could fill." In other words (not directed to you, specifically Tae, but in general), don't abuse our leniency on allowance of games.

Well i was just wondering. And i could potentially fill it up with all rivalries. Sometimes someone new is kindoff cool to schedule. Smetimes it helsp out your plans.

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World Cup 49 host bid: Newmanistan/The Babbage Islands

World Cup 49 host bid: Newmanistan/The Babbage Islands