World Baseball Classic Discussion Thread

[Saintland]

Is Maklohi Vai eligible for reelection?

No

WBC Constitution, December 2013
(previously amended April 2012)

Article III: President of the Council

Section 2: The president will be elected after every third World Baseball Classic, and will serve terms of three Classics. No one may serve as president for two consecutive terms.

[Super-Llamaland]

Thanks to everybody for their congratulations. I'm almost done with my RP!

The Llamanean WBC 31 Victory Song

"But Llama, that's not an RP!"

Right. I'll have the Epic Quest finale done by the end of the week.

[Maklohi Vai]

I've only received four nominations so far, so please nominate someone if you haven't nominated already. Again, this goes to my puppet Greenview by 10 pm Pacific this Sunday.

[Maklohi Vai]

So far I have received only 6 nominations, spread across 5 candidates. I will therefore be extending the deadline by a few more days, because frankly we need more candidates. The new deadline is this Wednesday, October 8th, at 11 pm Pacific time. Once again, votes are to be sent to my puppet Greenview. If no new nominations come in by that date, we will commence voting on the one candidate who currently holds two nominations. If this becomes the case, the person will effectively accede to the Presidency with just one vote, seeing as they would have no opponent. If there are proposals for alternate solutions to this problem, please let me know.

[Jeckland]

So far I have received only 6 nominations, spread across 5 candidates. I will therefore be extending the deadline by a few more days, because frankly we need more candidates. The new deadline is this Wednesday, October 8th, at 11 pm Pacific time. Once again, votes are to be sent to my puppet Greenview. If no new nominations come in by that date, we will commence voting on the one candidate who currently holds two nominations. If this becomes the case, the person will effectively accede to the Presidency with just one vote, seeing as they would have no opponent. If there are proposals for alternate solutions to this problem, please let me know.

I can't think of any other solutions to this problem, but perhaps sending out reminder TGs to the councillors who have not yet nominated anybody would help to avoid it.

[Maklohi Vai]

So far I have received only 6 nominations, spread across 5 candidates. I will therefore be extending the deadline by a few more days, because frankly we need more candidates. The new deadline is this Wednesday, October 8th, at 11 pm Pacific time. Once again, votes are to be sent to my puppet Greenview. If no new nominations come in by that date, we will commence voting on the one candidate who currently holds two nominations. If this becomes the case, the person will effectively accede to the Presidency with just one vote, seeing as they would have no opponent. If there are proposals for alternate solutions to this problem, please let me know.

I can't think of any other solutions to this problem, but perhaps sending out reminder TGs to the councillors who have not yet nominated anybody would help to avoid it.

Will do.

[The Fair Republic]

So far I have received only 6 nominations, spread across 5 candidates. I will therefore be extending the deadline by a few more days, because frankly we need more candidates. The new deadline is this Wednesday, October 8th, at 11 pm Pacific time. Once again, votes are to be sent to my puppet Greenview. If no new nominations come in by that date, we will commence voting on the one candidate who currently holds two nominations. If this becomes the case, the person will effectively accede to the Presidency with just one vote, seeing as they would have no opponent. If there are proposals for alternate solutions to this problem, please let me know.

Is there still only one country with more than one nomination?

[Maklohi Vai]

So far I have received only 6 nominations, spread across 5 candidates. I will therefore be extending the deadline by a few more days, because frankly we need more candidates. The new deadline is this Wednesday, October 8th, at 11 pm Pacific time. Once again, votes are to be sent to my puppet Greenview. If no new nominations come in by that date, we will commence voting on the one candidate who currently holds two nominations. If this becomes the case, the person will effectively accede to the Presidency with just one vote, seeing as they would have no opponent. If there are proposals for alternate solutions to this problem, please let me know.

Is there still only one country with more than one nomination?

I will not reveal anything until the deadline, which is in a little less than 6 hours.

[Maklohi Vai]

The nominations are in!

Just about half of the council members voiced their opinions on who they wish to see as president, and in the first part of this process we have some definitive entrants to vote on. THREE members reached the required amount of 2 nominations, and they are as follows:

Super-Llamaland
Zwangzug
Nova Anglicana

Those nominated cannot vote. All other eligible council members are able to cast a vote for one of the above listed. I strongly recommend casting a secondary choice of nation vote in the event of a tie.

Voting will take place over the next 4 days, ending on October 12th at 11 pm Pacific time, at which point I will announce the new president of the WBC. Once again, my puppet Greenview will be available to collect votes. Good luck to the three above!

[Maklohi Vai]

The votes are in!

This was an incredibly close race, with our top 2 finishers alternating between one vote leads and ties. The tiebreaker was definitely a possibility. Without further ado:

Super-Llamaland - 5
Zwangzug - 4
Nova Anglicana - 1

So with that, Super-Llamaland is now your new WBC President. Thank you all who voted. As of this post, I will now step down and let the new head start delegating.

[Super-Llamaland]

Many thanks to the five who voted me, and the other five as well, whose opinions I respect.

I will first appoint Nova Anglicana to the role of vice-president, who will take over if ever I resign or am eaten by bears. Preferably the first.

Traditionally, the WBC has opened signups six weeks after the ending of the previous one. As the previous one ended on September 20, the next one should be up by the beginning of November, possibly earlier.

More updates to come soon.

[Jeckland]

Congratulations to Super-Llamaland, and many thanks to Maklohi Vai for an excellent term as president.

[Nova Anglicana]

Many thanks to the five who voted me, and the other five as well, whose opinions I respect.

I will first appoint Nova Anglicana to the role of vice-president, who will take over if ever I resign or am eaten by bears. Preferably the first.

Traditionally, the WBC has opened signups six weeks after the ending of the previous one. As the previous one ended on September 20, the next one should be up by the beginning of November, possibly earlier.

More updates to come soon.

Congratulations to Llama on a well-deserved presidency, and thank you for appointing me to be vice-president. I hope I don't have to take over or anything. Looking forward to the future of the WBC.

[Imota]

Congratulations to Super-Llamaland on winning the presidency, and to Nova Anglicana on being appointed to vice president. Many thanks to Maklohi Vai for your service as president. Is this the dawn of the Age of the Llama?

[Zwangzug]

Karditan are you still working on a ranks program? Do we need a deputy deputy rank tallier?

[Zwangzug]

Okay well, either way, I should probably make sure there's a public copy of this, Saintland shouldn't be obligated to keep up the ranks. For future reference:

Compute the number of wins for each team throughout the tournament, including the group stage and the knockouts, but not "play-in rounds" contested by, for instance, only group runners-up if other teams have byes in this round. Find out which team played the most games, again ignoring certain playoffs, and divide every team's number of wins by that common denominator. The result will be some number from 0 to 1.

Scale this up by a factor of 4 for the most recent tournament, 2 for the one before that, and leave it unchanged (so, multiplying by 1) for the one before that. Then add those three numbers together to get the team's current ranking.

Result should be something like this (this is out of date; do not use it). The top row is the denominator value for each tournament (the cell is never actually called upon directly because I just hardcode the number in, but I leave it there for my own reference). Obviously future rank-updaters can find their own programs and formats but this is just to show how you get there.

Just for the historical lulz, behold the broken "all-time" spreadsheet, which I used to compute the ranks back in the day. There was some bizarre sorting years ago which means the earliest (farthest-right) few columns don't actually contain the right numbers, so some of the cells aren't accurate for historical purposes. But most of it would be correct, once you get close enough to the WBC29 era.

[Jeckland]

Okay well, either way, I should probably make sure there's a public copy of this, Saintland shouldn't be obligated to keep up the ranks. For future reference:

Compute the number of wins for each team throughout the tournament, including the group stage and the knockouts, but not "play-in rounds" contested by, for instance, only group runners-up if other teams have byes in this round. Find out which team played the most games, again ignoring certain playoffs, and divide every team's number of wins by that common denominator. The result will be some number from 0 to 1.

Scale this up by a factor of 4 for the most recent tournament, 2 for the one before that, and leave it unchanged (so, multiplying by 1) for the one before that. Then add those three numbers together to get the team's current ranking.

Result should be something like this (this is out of date; do not use it). The top row is the denominator value for each tournament (the cell is never actually called upon directly because I just hardcode the number in, but I leave it there for my own reference). Obviously future rank-updaters can find their own programs and formats but this is just to show how you get there.

Just for the historical lulz, behold the broken "all-time" spreadsheet, which I used to compute the ranks back in the day. There was some bizarre sorting years ago which means the earliest (farthest-right) few columns don't actually contain the right numbers, so some of the cells aren't accurate for historical purposes. But most of it would be correct, once you get close enough to the WBC29 era.

Now I no I'm no expert, but in the formula as I remember it the "denominator" was calculated differently. The winning team, regardless of whetehr they had played the most games, had 1 added to the number of games they played, and this was the denominator. For example, Super-Llamaland played 39 games last cycle, and won all, but in the rankings he has 39/40. I may be wrong, but this is how I remember it.

[Free Republics]

Okay well, either way, I should probably make sure there's a public copy of this, Saintland shouldn't be obligated to keep up the ranks. For future reference:

Compute the number of wins for each team throughout the tournament, including the group stage and the knockouts, but not "play-in rounds" contested by, for instance, only group runners-up if other teams have byes in this round. Find out which team played the most games, again ignoring certain playoffs, and divide every team's number of wins by that common denominator. The result will be some number from 0 to 1.

Scale this up by a factor of 4 for the most recent tournament, 2 for the one before that, and leave it unchanged (so, multiplying by 1) for the one before that. Then add those three numbers together to get the team's current ranking.

Result should be something like this (this is out of date; do not use it). The top row is the denominator value for each tournament (the cell is never actually called upon directly because I just hardcode the number in, but I leave it there for my own reference). Obviously future rank-updaters can find their own programs and formats but this is just to show how you get there.

Just for the historical lulz, behold the broken "all-time" spreadsheet, which I used to compute the ranks back in the day. There was some bizarre sorting years ago which means the earliest (farthest-right) few columns don't actually contain the right numbers, so some of the cells aren't accurate for historical purposes. But most of it would be correct, once you get close enough to the WBC29 era.

Now I no I'm no expert, but in the formula as I remember it the "denominator" was calculated differently. The winning team, regardless of whetehr they had played the most games, had 1 added to the number of games they played, and this was the denominator. For example, Super-Llamaland played 39 games last cycle, and won all, but in the rankings he has 39/40. I may be wrong, but this is how I remember it.

In fact, the reason why Super-Llamaland has a 40 in the denominator for last WBC was because somebody else (most likely his opponent in the finals) played 40 games.

[Jeckland]

Now I no I'm no expert, but in the formula as I remember it the "denominator" was calculated differently. The winning team, regardless of whetehr they had played the most games, had 1 added to the number of games they played, and this was the denominator. For example, Super-Llamaland played 39 games last cycle, and won all, but in the rankings he has 39/40. I may be wrong, but this is how I remember it.

In fact, the reason why Super-Llamaland has a 40 in the denominator for last WBC was because somebody else (most likely his opponent in the finals) played 40 games.

You're right, that's me being thick and inventing things in my head. And yes, I did play 40 gaems in that Classic since I lost one somewhere in the playoffs

[Nova Anglicana]

Not to be nitpicky, but I think I'm missing two wins from WBC 31. I won 25 group stage games, and beat The Fair Republic in the Round of 16 (leaving out my Ro24 wins b/c not everyone participated).

[Saintland]

Not to be nitpicky, but I think I'm missing two wins from WBC 31. I won 25 group stage games, and beat The Fair Republic in the Round of 16 (leaving out my Ro24 wins b/c not everyone participated).

You were correct.

I've double-checked the rankings for WBC 31 and they should now be error-free.

[Nova Anglicana]

Not to be nitpicky, but I think I'm missing two wins from WBC 31. I won 25 group stage games, and beat The Fair Republic in the Round of 16 (leaving out my Ro24 wins b/c not everyone participated).

You were correct.

I've double-checked the rankings for WBC 31 and they should now be error-free.

Thank you.

[Super-Llamaland]

A week or so to WBC signups!

[Super-Llamaland]

Come one and come all!

Have a great Thanksgiving everyone!

[Super-Llamaland]

I don't believe there's a precedent for hosting but not participating in a tournament, nor is it mentioned in the constitution.

And a clarification: The Northern Union (which will have its own separate nation should the bid win) is a coalition of my puppets The Hakifao Isles, Vjaalsburg, and The Arendellenske Union.