NS Rugby Discussion Thread (v.2)

[Neu Engollon]

I'm happy to accept the nomination, but on the caveat that I'll be taking a short break from NS for personal reasons – shouldn't be away longer than a month or so – and am happy to take the post, if so elected, on my return.

Depending on when you take off, by the time voting is done and assuming you are confirmed, you may be back just in time to start your term with no one the wiser.

Yeah, the bit about winning didn't really apply to me =p

Thank you for your nomination! I realise I've never been too involved in the organisational business, but I'd be happy to do so.

Ah, the winning part. So close. I am still working on my final match report post for the thread, believe it or not. Some RL stuff got in the way. Glad you accept the nomination. I think you'll do fine. You, Aels and Racao should make a great team.

[NS Rugby Board Executive Council]

I'm going to get the NSRB back on track here. Are there any other nominations for the NSRB Executive Council? I will give a rough 3 day deadline to get any other nominations for candidates in, then we will start the voting process.
So far, here are the nominations:

Aels for NSRB President (League VP)
Ko-oren for NSRB VP (Union VP)
Racao for NSRB co-VP (Sevens VP)

All those nominations have been accepted by the nominees.

Also, if you are participating in the Port Louis Sevens, don't forget to get your rosters and RPs posted HERE.

I will have the RLWC Sign ups posted up in the next few days - one week at the latest. Keep an eye out for them.

[Neu Engollon]

I'm going to get the NSRB back on track here. Are there any other nominations for the NSRB Executive Council? I will give a rough 3 day deadline to get any other nominations for candidates in, then we will start the voting process.
So far, here are the nominations:

Aels for NSRB President (League VP)
Ko-oren for NSRB VP (Union VP)
Racao for NSRB co-VP (Sevens VP)

Running behind on this. Should have the eligible voters rolls compiled by tonight. We'll also be having a separate vote for amendments to the NSRB document. Basically just confirming that references to the R7WC should be removed in favor of the Rugby Sevens World Series cycle.

Thanks to Racao for hosting the Port Louis Sevens!

Lastly, sign ups for the RLWC 16. Get working on those host bids.

[Frenline Delpha]

Question: When will the council be voting on my Rugby 7s tournament proposal?

viewtopic.php?p=26245134#p26245134

[Frenline Delpha]

Did I miss something? Did Racao finish the cup and plate finals, or am I just blind?

[Racao]

Did I miss something? Did Racao finish the cup and plate finals, or am I just blind?

No! The Olympics happened!

I'll really try to get the finals scorinated tonight (if I don't have to spend three hours fixing problems, that is)

[NS Rugby Board Executive Council]

Question: When will the council be voting on my Rugby 7s tournament proposal?

viewtopic.php?p=26245134#p26245134

I am the Council. Just me. So...I will consider it. One thing I will mention is that briefly reviewing your bid proposal, some things seem off from the other tournaments. Tiebreakers jumps out at me right away. We said from the start that we wanted the tournaments pretty similarly formatted in order that we can keep ranking and rules uniform throughout.

My suggestion would be to take another look at the other NSRB 7s tournaments and get yours more in line with them.
Londinium 7s
AVBF 7s
Port Louis 7s

Also, trying to penalize players for RP discrepancies doesn't sound very kosher. Usually, such things are discussed between the two match opponents and worked out civilly, before anyone official, host or otherwise, should need to step in.

[NS Rugby Board Executive Council]

Alright, without further ado, let's get the elections going!

The following members are eligible to vote for the position of Union vice-president (NSRB president):

Neu Engollon
Borxinoia
Welcomzia
Aquitayne
Lauranienne
Barunia
The Royal Kingdom of Quebec
Nova Anglicana
Greater Vakolicci Haven
Saintland
Kaboomlandia
Aels
Aloquirbe
Elejamie
Albaie
South Donese Union
Natanians and Nosts
Frenline Delpha
Polaaskan
Gregoryisgodistan
Shytysle
The Fair Republic
Cata Larga
Eura
Gim
Uitbregen
Lymantatia
Krytenia
Kernansquillec
Burthnas
Pey
Racao
Hutanjia
The Sword Bloke
Abanhfleft
United States of Devonta
Oisinistan
Ekoz
Ethane

You have the option of voting for:

Ko-oren
Reopen Nominations

The following members are eligible to vote for the position of League vice-president (NSRB vice-president):

Royal Kingdom of Quebec
The Royal Barangay
Kernansquillec
Welcomzia
Ko-oren
Patistan
Elejamie
Maltta
Neu Engollon
The Sword Bloke
Cosumar
Borxinoia
United States of Devonta
Abanhfleft
84733842
BCmania
The Jeckish Union
Wesleyia
Polkopia
Nova Pruthenia
Uitbregen
The Fair Republic
Lunar Republic Islands
New West Guiana
Green Jello Salad
Nizov
Kaboomlandia
State of Europa
Hutanjia
Nassau-Hessen
Logria
Estogium

You have the option of voting for:

Aels
Reopen Nominations

The following members are eligible to vote for the position of Sevens vice-president (NSRB vice-president):

Scottopian Isles
Hutanjia
Lisander
Natanians and Nosts
Elejamie
Ethane
Sioux Lookout
Neu Engollon
United States of Devonta
Abanhfleft
Prenteron
Nova Anglicana
Frenline Delpha
Levivania
Oisinistan

You have the option of voting for:

Racao
Reopen Nominations

Remember these are EXECUTIVE positions, NOT RP positions. Please vote for the person you believe to be most able to carry out the respective duties of the roles.

If you are eligible to vote in more than one section please make each vote distinct. Should I have missed a nation or puppet in any list that is also the candidate up for a vote, a reminder that they cannot vote for themselves, regardless if I accidentally included them on one of the voter rolls.
ALL VOTES should go to The Uff of Hutanjia.
This election closes 168 hours, or one week, from the time of this post. Each sub-election may be called if one of the two options takes an unassailable lead.

[Litorea]

Cata Larga here, requesting that my ranking and NSRB membership be transferred over to this nation. It's ICly the same country, I've just changed the name. Confirmation to come.

[Cata Larga]

Cata Larga here, requesting that my ranking be transferred over to this nation. It's ICly the same country, just changed the name. Confirmation to come.

Confirming.

[NS Rugby Board Executive Council]

Cata Larga here, requesting that my ranking be transferred over to this nation. It's ICly the same country, just changed the name. Confirmation to come.

Confirming.

Noted. Thank you.

Everyone, please don't forget to vote! I have received only one vote for NSRB Council leadership. See my last post above. Votes are being received at The Uff of Hutanjia. Please vote!

[Frenline Delpha]

Question: When will the council be voting on my Rugby 7s tournament proposal?

viewtopic.php?p=26245134#p26245134

I am the Council. Just me. So...I will consider it. One thing I will mention is that briefly reviewing your bid proposal, some things seem off from the other tournaments. Tiebreakers jumps out at me right away. We said from the start that we wanted the tournaments pretty similarly formatted in order that we can keep ranking and rules uniform throughout.

My suggestion would be to take another look at the other NSRB 7s tournaments and get yours more in line with them.
Londinium 7s
AVBF 7s
Port Louis 7s

Also, trying to penalize players for RP discrepancies doesn't sound very kosher. Usually, such things are discussed between the two match opponents and worked out civilly, before anyone official, host or otherwise, should need to step in.

Noted. I will look at the formatting. However, I am a firm believer that if you don't read your opponent's RP permission before you RP, then you deserve to be punished if you violate those permissions. After all, the permissions are there for a reason. However, that's just a personal belief.

[Frenline Delpha]

I have edited it to fix the tie-breakers. Also, I will not be changing the rule on RP permissions, as stated above.

[Barunia]

This, from the host bid:

However, if you do a Boatia on it and give your player 'cancer' out of the blue, and have extremely poor grammar and spelling, this will reduce your RP bonus. More RP points are available for posting a roster.

If they want to give their player cancer out of the blue, they should be allowed too. It seems you are demanding a level of realism that doesn't exist in NS Sports. I mean, I won the Di Bradini with Furellum with a team of doppelgangers made up of solidified magic. Instantaneous cancer is nothing in comparison.

As for correct grammar and spelling, I would strongly remind people that we have posters here for whom english is not their first language, and some for whom it is not a language at all, who use translation programmes to convert their RP to english before posting.

When marking any RP, you should keep in mind one simple question: what are the criteria I am assessing? Personally, I'd be looking for quality of description, plot development, and originality mostly, with the only requirement for writing ability being that the work has basic legibility.

I'd put in a counter-bid, but I only do Union.

[NS Rugby Board Executive Council]

In my last act as Acting NSRB President, I wanted to put forth an amended version of the NSRB Governing Document for vote by all members to approve. The amendments are minor and refer to the elimination of a World Cup for Rugby Sevens in favor of the Series cycle of tournaments. The changes have been shown in bold in the following version:

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NS Rugby Board Governing Document

The NS Rugby Board (hereafter NSRB) governs the World Cups of rugby union, rugby league, and the Series of rugby sevens in NS Sports.

Membership of the NSRB and of its Union Section, League Section, or Sevens Section is granted to all nations that posted a roster in the last completed Rugby Union World Cup (RWC), Rugby League World Cup (RLWC), or Rugby Sevens Series of Tournaments, respectively. (The Rugby Sevens Series International is treated as the first R7WC.) A single player controlling two or more NSRB member nations may only vote through one of them on any given question.

The NSRB as a whole select the hosts of each RWC, RLWC, and R7 Series of Tournaments. The NSRB Sections also elect a Vice President periodically, after a cycle of three or more World Cups including at least one of each of the two types of Cups has been completed, and one cycle of NSRB sanctioned sevens tournaments. All NSRB members entered into the tournament may vote on host bids, but only the members of a Section may vote for that section's Vice President.

At the first election of all Section Vice Presidents, the Union Section VP shall be designated as NSRB President with the League Section VP as First Vice President and the Sevens Section VP as Second Vice President. At the second such election, these posts are assigned in the order League-Sevens-Union, and at the third such election Sevens-Union-League.

The President of the NSRB opens signup threads for the two World Cups and oversees selection of their hosts, (NSRB Sevens tournament sign ups are run by their respective approved hosts), organises the election of Section Vice Presidents as called for above, organises votes on properly proposed amendments to this document as stated below, and chairs the Executive Council for the resolution of emergencies.

The Vice Presidents of the NSRB take up the duties of the President in sequence, First then Second, when that officer becomes temporarily or permanently unable or unwilling to perform the above duties. Both also serve on the Executive Council for the resolution of emergencies.

NSRB members shall not vote in a host bid election or Section Vice President election where they are a candidate. The President or acting President shall appoint another NSRB member to supervise balloting when they are a candidate.

A two-thirds majority of those voting is required to approve amendments to this document, which must first be proposed and endorsed in the current rugby discussion thread by three persons who each represent a different section. All NSRB members are eligible to vote on amendments.

Votes may be submitted here to this thread by members. Should there be confusion on your current status of membership, please TG The UFF of Hutanjia for clarification, or check the previous post about President and VP elections.

Stay tuned for NSRB President and VP results after this post. Host bid for RLWC 16 will be posted momentarily in that respective sign up thread.

[NS Rugby Board Executive Council]

The results for the election of your new NSRB President and Council are in:

Union vice-president (NSRB president):
Ko-oren: 6
Reopen Nominations: 0

League vice-president (NSRB vice-president):
Aels: 3
Reopen Nominations: 0

Sevens vice-president (NSRB vice-president):
Racao: 2
Reopen Nominations: 1

Without further adieu, let's welcome our new President and VPs to office! Congratulations!

[Frenline Delpha]

Congrats, everyone.
Also, I vote Yay on the proposal.

[Ko-oren]

Hey all, thanks for voting for me! I'll try my hardest not to let you down.

I'll get in touch with the other two VPs and see what's going on in the RLWC.

Does anybody know what happened to the Post-RLWC 15 ranks?

[Frenline Delpha]

Hey all, thanks for voting for me! I'll try my hardest not to let you down.

I'll get in touch with the other two VPs and see what's going on in the RLWC.

Does anybody know what happened to the Post-RLWC 15 ranks?

Question: As president, do you accept my bid for the Freedom 7's Tourney, found here.

[Neu Engollon]

Hey all, thanks for voting for me! I'll try my hardest not to let you down.

I'll get in touch with the other two VPs and see what's going on in the RLWC.

Congrats! You can also TG me as I might be able to clear some things up. I'm not going to dump it all on your lap with no explanation.

Does anybody know what happened to the Post-RLWC 15 ranks?

We were unable to get a volunteer to step forward to compile said list, so it doesn't exist as of yet. If I can get more time, and there still are no numbers savvy volunteers to step forward, I will attempt it.

[Neu Engollon]

Question: As president, do you accept my bid for the Freedom 7's Tourney, found here.

Ko-oren and the rest of the Council have had the office for what, a couple hours? And you're already trying to play the mommy-daddy game. Where I was on the fence before, I'm now firmly a NO vote for your hosting a NSRB sanctioned tournament, at least until more maturity is shown.

[Frenline Delpha]

Question: As president, do you accept my bid for the Freedom 7's Tourney, found here.

Ko-oren and the rest of the Council have had the office for what, a couple hours? And you're already trying to play the mommy-daddy game. Where I was on the fence before, I'm now firmly a NO vote for your hosting a NSRB sanctioned tournament, at least until more maturity is shown.

You know what, nothing in the world is worth this much to me. I officily withsraw my bid. Good day, sir.

[OIsINiSTAn]

Do I need to get my bid for the RWC verified? Not really sure how verification works

[The Royal Kingdom of Quebec]

As someone who's not as involved but has experiences running a federation, here are my thoughts on the matter:

- It'd be much appreciated if bidders stop asking if their bid needs to get verified or not. Unless there are significant flaws to the bid and requires immediate rejection, the organiser/president will accept your bid and have it go for a host voting process where it'd be handled under greater public in the committee/signees. Please be patient with it.

- Please refrain from a specific personal opinion in such a blatant, public fashion. Let the public decide. Once again, just my opinions, but really I think that NE didn't execute it the best of the ways.

- Please stay mature.....none of us are superhumans and it's not a good thing to expect everything to be done within minutes or responses. Give people some time.

Thank you.

[Liventia]

That's a bit rich coming from you, Quebec. I happen to think Neu Engollon was perfectly entitled to speak out, as the outgoing president who had been hounded repeatedly over the issue.