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Common Territories
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Postby Common Territories » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:24 pm

Greco-Roman Hellenic Empire wrote:Hello!

Quick Question. Does anyone know where I could find bombers that are built to kill ships on the forum?

Depends on your definition of bombers. Strategic bombers of large size can't operate on aircraft carriers - not to mention certain aircraft can only operate on certain platforms. If you're looking for jet planes that are multirole and can conduct bombings than there is a few storefronts like mine who provide such aircraft. Though I wont name names until im positive what you're looking for.

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Postby Greco-Roman Hellenic Empire » Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:34 pm

Common Territories wrote:
Greco-Roman Hellenic Empire wrote:Hello!

Quick Question. Does anyone know where I could find bombers that are built to kill ships on the forum?

Depends on your definition of bombers. Strategic bombers of large size can't operate on aircraft carriers - not to mention certain aircraft can only operate on certain platforms. If you're looking for jet planes that are multirole and can conduct bombings than there is a few storefronts like mine who provide such aircraft. Though I wont name names until im positive what you're looking for.


I am looking for bombers that can engage large surface ships and submarines. I don't have any aircraft carriers, so the bombers can be largeish. Also, the bomber should have a lengthy range-not inter-continental, but at least have enough fuel to be able to engage targets all over a region.

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Postby Land of the Evil Mastermind » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:06 pm

I new to the game, do you actually pay the amounts and are your purchases available as resources for your nation state?

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Postby Pharthan » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:14 pm

Land of the Evil Mastermind wrote:I new to the game, do you actually pay the amounts and are your purchases available as resources for your nation state?

No. It's more about being reasonable to what your nation could have. If you're roleplaying with a nation of 10 million people, don't try to strut around with a 1 million man army and twenty supercarriers.
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Postby Common Territories » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:33 pm

Greco-Roman Hellenic Empire wrote:
Common Territories wrote: Depends on your definition of bombers. Strategic bombers of large size can't operate on aircraft carriers - not to mention certain aircraft can only operate on certain platforms. If you're looking for jet planes that are multirole and can conduct bombings than there is a few storefronts like mine who provide such aircraft. Though I wont name names until im positive what you're looking for.


I am looking for bombers that can engage large surface ships and submarines. I don't have any aircraft carriers, so the bombers can be largeish. Also, the bomber should have a lengthy range-not inter-continental, but at least have enough fuel to be able to engage targets all over a region.


Sorry for delay in response.

Anyways. Just about any modern fighter can fulfill that list with refueling aircraft. If you really want long range bombers though there's a couple storefronts I can name that have them - not sure if some are still open. Though I don't know if they'd be able to travel the distance you're thinking of (im not familiar with your region or your regional status - such as regions and the distance on a map). Parthan has a number of aircraft that may be suited though to your needs as well as a few of my own aircraft - and another person's if you're interested.

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Postby Chistanad » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:08 pm

I'm thinking of creating a storefront for a gaming corporation in my nation. Does anyone have any ideas on what exactly I can do? I have a basic idea, but it's not enough to fill out a full storefront.

OOC: I don't know if this is the place to ask this or not.

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Postby Yohannes » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:53 am

Chistanad wrote:I'm thinking of creating a storefront for a gaming corporation in my nation. Does anyone have any ideas on what exactly I can do? I have a basic idea, but it's not enough to fill out a full storefront.

OOC: I don't know if this is the place to ask this or not.


There are quite some players out there who have made storefronts for gaming corporations in their nations. I cannot help with any advice as I personally (though I can always be wrong) think that it would be best for you to look up these examples, and maybe take the initiative by searching (search box with 'gaming' or other similar tags) in Global Economics & Trade for any other such storefronts made in the past

From there, you can mix and match and experiment with your own version

1. The Trinity Game House by New Aglore
2. Clarkson Electronics byAinin (not gaming, but gaming are pretty much same formatting as electronics)
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Postby Stormwrath » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:11 am

I'm thinking of creating an MT electronics/technology company focusing mainly on computers and smartphones - of course with more to come - and I am looking for some electronics companies where I can draw some inspiration from. It can be in formatting, products, and other things.

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Postby The Nation of Ceneria » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:35 pm

Stormwrath wrote:I'm thinking of creating an MT electronics/technology company focusing mainly on computers and smartphones - of course with more to come - and I am looking for some electronics companies where I can draw some inspiration from. It can be in formatting, products, and other things.

Trelatche Computing Development is a good storefront to look at formatting-wise, and for large computers.

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Postby The Doom Marine (Ancient) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:39 pm

Hey!
I'd like to make a Mercenary For Hire page, but with a twist- I'd like it to be more of a demonhunter/Alien Hunter.
So my question is:
How would I go about making a Mercenary For Hire page, but with said twist?

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Postby Crookfur » Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:02 pm

The Doom Marine wrote:Hey!
I'd like to make a Mercenary For Hire page, but with a twist- I'd like it to be more of a demonhunter/Alien Hunter.
So my question is:
How would I go about making a Mercenary For Hire page, but with said twist?

The same way you would any other merc/pmc type store front by promoting what services you can provide and what makes your group "special".
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Postby The Doom Marine (Ancient) » Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:03 pm

Crookfur wrote:
The Doom Marine wrote:Hey!
I'd like to make a Mercenary For Hire page, but with a twist- I'd like it to be more of a demonhunter/Alien Hunter.
So my question is:
How would I go about making a Mercenary For Hire page, but with said twist?

The same way you would any other merc/pmc type store front by promoting what services you can provide and what makes your group "special".

Alright. Are there any really good examples to model off of?

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Postby Chistanad » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:05 pm

Yohannes wrote:
Chistanad wrote:I'm thinking of creating a storefront for a gaming corporation in my nation. Does anyone have any ideas on what exactly I can do? I have a basic idea, but it's not enough to fill out a full storefront.

OOC: I don't know if this is the place to ask this or not.


There are quite some players out there who have made storefronts for gaming corporations in their nations. I cannot help with any advice as I personally (though I can always be wrong) think that it would be best for you to look up these examples, and maybe take the initiative by searching (search box with 'gaming' or other similar tags) in Global Economics & Trade for any other such storefronts made in the past

From there, you can mix and match and experiment with your own version

1. The Trinity Game House by New Aglore
2. Clarkson Electronics byAinin (not gaming, but gaming are pretty much same formatting as electronics)
3. Animator byAinin
4. Trelatche Computing Development by Trelatche

I should of told you this immediately but thanks for the advice and links.

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Postby The Pacifican Islands » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:41 am

This may sound naive, but why did my storefront get so few orders?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=383469&p=29300832&sid=9088221e2da715f88fab6c6b18a5aa0e#p29300832

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Postby Crookfur » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:39 pm

The Pacifican Islands wrote:This may sound naive, but why did my storefront get so few orders?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=383469&p=29300832&sid=9088221e2da715f88fab6c6b18a5aa0e#p29300832

The brutal truth it's just another small arms storefront that doesn't offer anything special. It falls into a middle ground part of the market between the couple lines and a few random pics type that appeals to those who just want a quick bit of fun or happen to be currently part of the same bunch of newbies and the high end stores with seldom drawn art and an obvious in depth technical knowledge.

Stores selling only small arms were never hugely successful and pretty much died once PMG came along.
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Postby Holy Marsh » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:48 pm

The Pacifican Islands wrote:This may sound naive, but why did my storefront get so few orders?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=383469&p=29300832&sid=9088221e2da715f88fab6c6b18a5aa0e#p29300832


I like to imagine Covenant Arms is a reasonably successful arms storefront but it goes through long periods without orders. Your storefront may catch on, who knows.

Beyond that, Crookfur is right. Your weapons just fall into a few traps. Some of them leap off of RL weaponry in an IC fashion- something that just about anyone can do ICly, so why buy it from a storefront? (I say same thing when I see people tossing RL equipment or weapons for sale in an IC storefront. It is really silly to me IMHO) You just need to find your niche, be different, be creative, and find joy in the creation rather than the selling. I want people to buy my Covenant Arms weapons, but I'm okay if they are never purchased because the creativity and fun I had making them was what I was after.

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Postby Crookfur » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:11 pm

Holy Marsh wrote:
The Pacifican Islands wrote:This may sound naive, but why did my storefront get so few orders?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=383469&p=29300832&sid=9088221e2da715f88fab6c6b18a5aa0e#p29300832


I like to imagine Covenant Arms is a reasonably successful arms storefront but it goes through long periods without orders. Your storefront may catch on, who knows.

Beyond that, Crookfur is right. Your weapons just fall into a few traps. Some of them leap off of RL weaponry in an IC fashion- something that just about anyone can do ICly, so why buy it from a storefront? (I say same thing when I see people tossing RL equipment or weapons for sale in an IC storefront. It is really silly to me IMHO) You just need to find your niche, be different, be creative, and find joy in the creation rather than the selling. I want people to buy my Covenant Arms weapons, but I'm okay if they are never purchased because the creativity and fun I had making them was what I was after.

Yep the creating stuff for the pleasure of creating it is pretty much the only way to go. Heck I actually created far more stuff once I gave up caring if anyone bought anyhting (although i got really lazy and pretty much stopped doing anyhting major in the way of writeups.

One additional thing i would add, and I mean this in the nicest way, is keep the story element of the blurb/write up to aminimum. It always great to ahve a fully fleshed out idea of where a firearm sits in your national story and its context, but thats the sort of stuff that works best on a factbook description. For selling stuff a breif paragraph giving some context and back ground is more than enough whislt the rest should focus on the technical details and trying to "sell" the design i.e. what does it do better and how does it do it or what does it offer compared to other similar things etc etc. Some might disagree but in general i always found that unless it was attached to something special the more story i added the less stuff sold.
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Postby Common Territories » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:41 pm

I've gotta triple agree here.

Though I enjoy relatively high activity, I did start out with just small arms so I know where you're coming from. I was never good with gun art and PMG was easy if you know how to use it, so I used it like many, but I found it didn't slow me down. I can tell you from back then that I got even less orders than you I think - no one found interest even if I made the product more unique and the art didn't blow; I mostly had to pressure friends to buy my guns. Other said it, but I'll say it again. Small arms just aren't a big seller, period. I didn't see real activity growth until I started offering vehicles - vehicles are typically the greatest seller. I'd take Cookfur's advice to heart ,and my own advice would be to make your brand unique as well; unique by art, write-up, products, etc. It's hard in this market but if you can do it and have fun doing it, more power to you.

Edit: I corrected a lot of grammar above. I wrote it while I was drinking so that and doing it fast really fucked up what I was trying to say.
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Postby Stormwrath » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:47 am

The Nation of Ceneria wrote:
Stormwrath wrote:I'm thinking of creating an MT electronics/technology company focusing mainly on computers and smartphones - of course with more to come - and I am looking for some electronics companies where I can draw some inspiration from. It can be in formatting, products, and other things.

Trelatche Computing Development is a good storefront to look at formatting-wise, and for large computers.

Okay. Any storefronts for smartphones out there?

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Postby The Nation of Ceneria » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:53 am

Stormwrath wrote:
The Nation of Ceneria wrote:Trelatche Computing Development is a good storefront to look at formatting-wise, and for large computers.

Okay. Any storefronts for smartphones out there?

Well, Shadrax Interactive and Dream Games (both CTE) have one smartphone design each, but that's all I can dredge up right now.

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Postby Amnarei-asud » Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:47 am

Do tongue-in-cheek storefronts go down okay?

I'm not really out for orders, just want to put 'something' out there that starts to fill out the colour of my nation. I figured cos this looks like it basically is a role play forum, it might be okay? But I don't want to waste people's time/be spammy.

It's a natural resource that the state would be opening up international access to, if that makes a difference. Imagine an international trade equivalent to the "free manure" signs you see when you drive past farms...
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Postby Maltropia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:07 pm

Stormwrath wrote:Okay. Any storefronts for smartphones out there?

I know for a fact that there have been several, and I feel like ViZion had at least one selling them. Neu Engollon's Scwyz Logiztek has a smartphone, but its specialised target market (and the fact that that's very much a side project of SL) probably disqualifies that from your search. This was a very thorough and recent attempt at a product that seems, tragically, to have failed. Otherwise, search results turn up no real results for 'smartphone' later than Allanea's venture last June.

Amnarei-asud wrote:Do tongue-in-cheek storefronts go down okay?

I'm not really out for orders, just want to put 'something' out there that starts to fill out the colour of my nation. I figured cos this looks like it basically is a role play forum, it might be okay? But I don't want to waste people's time/be spammy.

It's a natural resource that the state would be opening up international access to, if that makes a difference. Imagine an international trade equivalent to the "free manure" signs you see when you drive past farms...

Someone once sold a 'tactical rock', and another guy sells various mobile toilets, not to mention the many parody airlines that have risen and fallen throughout history. Have at it.
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Postby Neu Engollon » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:54 am

Maltropia wrote:
Stormwrath wrote:Okay. Any storefronts for smartphones out there?

I know for a fact that there have been several, and I feel like ViZion had at least one selling them. Neu Engollon's Schwyz Logiztek has a smartphone, but its specialised target market (and the fact that that's very much a side project of SL) probably disqualifies that from your search. This was a very thorough and recent attempt at a product that seems, tragically, to have failed. Otherwise, search results turn up no real results for 'smartphone' later than Allanea's venture last June.


Daawww. Thanks, Mal. Yeah, the SL GXP is being marketed as high end gear for the military/security/intelligence community, but sales of the GXP to civilians aren't restricted. SL doesn't have their own stores, nor would your typical corner electronics/cell provider store have GXP's in the window. I imagine something like Stretta's old Electronic Village, or whatever the active equivalent to RL Sharper Image on GE&T is these days, to be able to special order in a model for a customer willing to fork out that kind of money.
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Postby Aurora Confederacy » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:22 pm

and another guy sells various mobile toilets, not to mention the many parody airlines that have risen and fallen throughout history. Have at it.

you mean this one Malt? viewtopic.php?f=6&t=269915 ??
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