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A meeting place where national storefronts can tout their wares and discuss trade. [In character]

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Postby Allancia » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:52 pm

Kyrashia wrote:
Allancia wrote:Like, if they became a communist state, then they might throw away their economy, but that would necessitate throwing away money as well.


Not to mention changing the currency you use, including conversion rate and everything, would absolutely tank your economy.

I am beginning to suspect this person does not entirely understand how economies and political structures work. For example, in one of their posts,they claimed to be against fascism and communism. However, monarchy is a type of fascism, so what the hell.
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Postby Urivoa » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:54 pm

Allancia wrote:
Kyrashia wrote:
Not to mention changing the currency you use, including conversion rate and everything, would absolutely tank your economy.

I am beginning to suspect this person does not entirely understand how economies and political structures work. For example, in one of their posts,they claimed to be against fascism and communism. However, monarchy is a type of fascism, so what the hell.

no it isnt thats like saying the queen is adolf hitler xD

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Postby Kyrashia » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:55 pm

Urivoa wrote:
Allancia wrote:I am beginning to suspect this person does not entirely understand how economies and political structures work. For example, in one of their posts,they claimed to be against fascism and communism. However, monarchy is a type of fascism, so what the hell.

no it isnt thats like saying the queen is adolf hitler xD


I don't think you understand how politics and government work.....

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Postby Allancia » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:56 pm

Urivoa wrote:
Allancia wrote:I am beginning to suspect this person does not entirely understand how economies and political structures work. For example, in one of their posts,they claimed to be against fascism and communism. However, monarchy is a type of fascism, so what the hell.

no it isnt thats like saying the queen is adolf hitler xD

Monarchy is a political style in which the state is controlled by a single individual. The succession of power usually takes place via a complex hereditary system. Fascism is almost the same, except that the central figure (Mussolini, Hitler, Franco) is so highly revered that they become a political messiah. Both fascism and monarchy employ state religion and authoritarianism.
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Postby Kyrashia » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:58 pm

Allancia wrote:
Urivoa wrote:no it isnt thats like saying the queen is adolf hitler xD

Monarchy is a political style in which the state is controlled by a single individual. The succession of power usually takes place via a complex hereditary system. Fascism is almost the same, except that the central figure (Mussolini, Hitler, Franco) is so highly revered that they become a political messiah. Both fascism and monarchy employ state religion and authoritarianism.


Exactly. There is also Constitutional Monarchies however, like the UK, where the reigning monarch is celebrated as the ceremonial head of state but has no power within the government.

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Postby Allancia » Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:01 pm

Kyrashia wrote:
Allancia wrote:Monarchy is a political style in which the state is controlled by a single individual. The succession of power usually takes place via a complex hereditary system. Fascism is almost the same, except that the central figure (Mussolini, Hitler, Franco) is so highly revered that they become a political messiah. Both fascism and monarchy employ state religion and authoritarianism.


Exactly. There is also Constitutional Monarchies however, like the UK, where the reigning monarch is celebrated as the ceremonial head of state but has no power within the government.

They're a glorified figurehead. Also, Mussolini still kept the king and queen of Italy in office, although they were largely politically impotent, whereas Hitler had almost the entirety of the former Kaisereich government exterminated. The Empire of Italy and the Greater German Reich seem to have parallels with this country, especially in regards to military contracting with corporations (Krupp, etc.).
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:18 pm

Or they just burned all their money.... and gold
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Postby Allancia » Sat Mar 28, 2015 4:32 pm

Polar Svalbard wrote:Or they just burned all their money.... and gold

Not sure how you burn gold, but seems a-okay to me.
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Postby Zambara » Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:35 pm

Wow, this went from fixing this storefront to talk about "Throwing away the Economy" to talk of fascism.
This guy is going to need another storefront.
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Postby Zambara » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:06 pm

Based of NSEconomy (Which might not be true), Urivoa, 1 gol =$0.22
or 22¢
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Postby Allancia » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:07 pm

Zambara wrote:Wow, this went from fixing this storefront to talk about "Throwing away the Economy" to talk of fascism.
This guy is going to need another storefront.

I see it was necessary to edit that message 4 times over for maximum effect.
However, that is true. Thankfully though, this guy's storefront is so terrible, he would probably need a new one anyway.
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Postby Zambara » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:18 pm

Yeah, it was necessary, but I see your point.

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Postby Urivoa » Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:16 am

Zambara wrote:Wow, this went from fixing this storefront to talk about "Throwing away the Economy" to talk of fascism.
This guy is going to need another storefront.

urivoa banned the economy

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Postby Avdrea » Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:21 am

Urivoa wrote:
Zambara wrote:Wow, this went from fixing this storefront to talk about "Throwing away the Economy" to talk of fascism.
This guy is going to need another storefront.

urivoa banned the economy

You... What? I don't think 'economy' means what you think it means.....

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Postby Kyrashia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:29 am

Urivoa wrote:
Zambara wrote:Wow, this went from fixing this storefront to talk about "Throwing away the Economy" to talk of fascism.
This guy is going to need another storefront.

urivoa banned the economy


You did what now?

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Postby Soviet Klaec » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:31 pm

Urivoa wrote:
Zambara wrote:Wow, this went from fixing this storefront to talk about "Throwing away the Economy" to talk of fascism.
This guy is going to need another storefront.

urivoa banned the economy


You..... What is this, I don't even....... *Brain implodes. Violently.*
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Postby Allancia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:51 pm

Soviet Klaec wrote:
Urivoa wrote:urivoa banned the economy


You..... What is this, I don't even....... *Brain implodes. Violently.*

This bastard thinks he can contort reality.
I'll show him.
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Postby Zambara » Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:27 am

Urivoa wrote:
Zambara wrote:Wow, this went from fixing this storefront to talk about "Throwing away the Economy" to talk of fascism.
This guy is going to need another storefront.

urivoa banned the economy



Look... You Can Not Ban Your Economy! Why you ask?

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Postby Esalonia » Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:20 am

Urivoa again. You're lucky I just had a very great day and I'm not about to ruin it.

Once again: you banned economy. And for UR-47: Kyrashia has once written:

"And yes, a respected and properly-formatted storefront by all means needs images. And I am sorry to say but taking an image of an AK-47 and haphazardly writing "Urivoa" on it with Microsoft Paint is not the same as someone who spent hours in Photoshop making banners (Like I do)."

I actually have my own guns (like you), but I sacrifice time to draw them on paper, and now I'm looking for people to make soft copies of these drawings. Before you make your own guns, make some research. TBH my M-2015 looks like the turret is as long as the hull, and why? Insetting the gun more, gives it more stability and accuracy if I can correctly recall Lyras' write-up on his LY4 (forgive me if you're thinking I'm destroying copyrights). I've also explored a whole host of crazy ideas from combining an HE warhead with an APFSDS round, basically making an APHEDS (Armor Piercing High Explosive Discarding Sabot) but then I abandoned it because it's a very bad idea. Another one is my AR-95, and I have been wanting to make a drawing for it, and also exploring ideas for a rifle, like one good for both cased and "caseless" rounds.

And banning economy is basically banning yourself from development. What's the point of Urivoa Company if you're just gonna ban economy?? This is the most absurd statements and/or actions that I have witnessed in my life, and particularly my RP experience as well. I'm not an RP Mentor (my name isn't in Lime/Bright Green), nor am I a scientific expert for real, but as one who has been in NS for a bit of a long time and had gone through thick and thin I think I can help you with RPing, and you can drop a telegram anytime you want me to help you.
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Postby Allancia » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:04 am

Esalonia wrote:Urivoa again. You're lucky I just had a very great day and I'm not about to ruin it.

Once again: you banned economy. And for UR-47: Kyrashia has once written:

"And yes, a respected and properly-formatted storefront by all means needs images. And I am sorry to say but taking an image of an AK-47 and haphazardly writing "Urivoa" on it with Microsoft Paint is not the same as someone who spent hours in Photoshop making banners (Like I do)."

I actually have my own guns (like you), but I sacrifice time to draw them on paper, and now I'm looking for people to make soft copies of these drawings. Before you make your own guns, make some research. TBH my M-2015 looks like the turret is as long as the hull, and why? Insetting the gun more, gives it more stability and accuracy if I can correctly recall Lyras' write-up on his LY4 (forgive me if you're thinking I'm destroying copyrights). I've also explored a whole host of crazy ideas from combining an HE warhead with an APFSDS round, basically making an APHEDS (Armor Piercing High Explosive Discarding Sabot) but then I abandoned it because it's a very bad idea. Another one is my AR-95, and I have been wanting to make a drawing for it, and also exploring ideas for a rifle, like one good for both cased and "caseless" rounds.

And banning economy is basically banning yourself from development. What's the point of Urivoa Company if you're just gonna ban economy?? This is the most absurd statements and/or actions that I have witnessed in my life, and particularly my RP experience as well. I'm not an RP Mentor (my name isn't in Lime/Bright Green), nor am I a scientific expert for real, but as one who has been in NS for a bit of a long time and had gone through thick and thin I think I can help you with RPing, and you can drop a telegram anytime you want me to help you.

He seems to take long and unexplained breaks from NS frequently, like right now. I've tried to help him too, but he has yet to reply. He claims to be against Communism, even though Communism in of itself requires the banning of an economy. If he could be on more frequently, this would be much easier.
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Postby Esalonia » Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:46 pm

Kyrashia wrote:Okay, given that you have now established a conversion rate, you are selling AK-47s for 0.3 x 10^13 dollars. Or roughly $3.5 trillion.

I can just buy two Lyran Longswords using the price of a hyper-expensive piece of equipment that would only shoot bullets. One good thing about a successful storefront is good pricing. And I once read in Pharthan's storefront:

"We do not jack up prices to give the false impression of quality"-or something like that.

Another thing: I'm not against you naming your wares, like uSongs, uPhones...but please give a description of the wares. And images, probably drawings. I can't wait to see someone using gallium arsenide on phones...bad thing it's a carcinogen. Sorry NS, but Silicon is better in logic handling than GaAs. They're better off in solar panels. But they have their bests.

Another thing: 300 calls. Usually you don't list it down as just 300 calls, it's 300 minutes of calls. 500 messages for 19.99 Euros? And everythign for free forever for just 30 euros? What the hell...4Network has been banned by the Esalonian Ministry of Commerce-Commission of Telecommunications
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Postby Avdrea » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:17 am

Allancia wrote:
Esalonia wrote:Urivoa again. You're lucky I just had a very great day and I'm not about to ruin it.

Once again: you banned economy. And for UR-47: Kyrashia has once written:

"And yes, a respected and properly-formatted storefront by all means needs images. And I am sorry to say but taking an image of an AK-47 and haphazardly writing "Urivoa" on it with Microsoft Paint is not the same as someone who spent hours in Photoshop making banners (Like I do)."

I actually have my own guns (like you), but I sacrifice time to draw them on paper, and now I'm looking for people to make soft copies of these drawings. Before you make your own guns, make some research. TBH my M-2015 looks like the turret is as long as the hull, and why? Insetting the gun more, gives it more stability and accuracy if I can correctly recall Lyras' write-up on his LY4 (forgive me if you're thinking I'm destroying copyrights). I've also explored a whole host of crazy ideas from combining an HE warhead with an APFSDS round, basically making an APHEDS (Armor Piercing High Explosive Discarding Sabot) but then I abandoned it because it's a very bad idea. Another one is my AR-95, and I have been wanting to make a drawing for it, and also exploring ideas for a rifle, like one good for both cased and "caseless" rounds.

And banning economy is basically banning yourself from development. What's the point of Urivoa Company if you're just gonna ban economy?? This is the most absurd statements and/or actions that I have witnessed in my life, and particularly my RP experience as well. I'm not an RP Mentor (my name isn't in Lime/Bright Green), nor am I a scientific expert for real, but as one who has been in NS for a bit of a long time and had gone through thick and thin I think I can help you with RPing, and you can drop a telegram anytime you want me to help you.

He seems to take long and unexplained breaks from NS frequently, like right now. I've tried to help him too, but he has yet to reply. He claims to be against Communism, even though Communism in of itself requires the banning of an economy. If he could be on more frequently, this would be much easier.

Even Communism still requires economy... Production is still a part of economy.

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Postby Allancia » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:29 pm

Avdrea wrote:
Allancia wrote:He seems to take long and unexplained breaks from NS frequently, like right now. I've tried to help him too, but he has yet to reply. He claims to be against Communism, even though Communism in of itself requires the banning of an economy. If he could be on more frequently, this would be much easier.

Even Communism still requires economy... Production is still a part of economy.

Communism, by definition, is a lack of an economy. Society is not run by ownership, like in the less efficient capitalism, but by usership. I personally am a Socialist, as Communism on a wide scale is pretty much impossible, and capitalism is, you know.
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