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Postby New Bern99 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:47 pm

New Lusitaniagrad wrote:The position of Minister of War (Defense) is currently being discussed by The Council, and myself. Should you have any specific reasons for why you would be the best candidate, now would be the time to share.


Cause im big. Playground rules say keep the big guy happy so he doesn't squish you :D.

JK...I'm not really interested in the position.
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Postby New Lusitaniagrad » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:51 pm

New Bern99 wrote:
New Lusitaniagrad wrote:The position of Minister of War (Defense) is currently being discussed by The Council, and myself. Should you have any specific reasons for why you would be the best candidate, now would be the time to share.


Cause im big. Playground rules say keep the big guy happy so he doesn't squish you :D.

JK...I'm not really interested in the position.

The fact that you have a population of over four billion, and thus a huge military potential, has been duly noted.
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Postby Tristaniano » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:57 pm

The Imperial Forces of Tristaniano is a militaristic nation. The whole nation's male population is the army if necessary, though the main fighting force is highly trained and highly funded by the Imperial Director. Every expense is paid for the military and only the best of the best of Tristanians are allowed to be in it. Its a great honor to be a officer in the military, and only the most skilled and well rounded of soldiers become officers through military exploits only, not through other means.

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Postby Crontor » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:04 pm

Tristaniano wrote:The Imperial Forces of Tristaniano is a militaristic nation. The whole nation's male population is the army if necessary, though the main fighting force is highly trained and highly funded by the Imperial Director. Every expense is paid for the military and only the best of the best of Tristanians are allowed to be in it. Its a great honor to be a officer in the military, and only the most skilled and well rounded of soldiers become officers through military exploits only, not through other means.


And what is your wartime experience?

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Postby Tristaniano » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:08 pm

I have participated in some military threads. In real life I study military strategy and politics so...there is some war time experience.

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Postby Crontor » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:10 pm

May we see some links? :?:

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Postby New Bern99 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:11 pm

Tristaniano wrote:I have participated in some military threads. In real life I study military strategy and politics so...there is some war time experience.



Just making sure everyone knows im no longer interested in the position of Minister of War.

Link your best examples of RPs for the council. If you are going to be Minister of War you should be able to RP well.

EDIT: Ninjad by Crontor
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Postby Bokaya » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:51 am

In terms of "minister of war", I've got lots and lots of ideass regarding how the new legions ought to be structured, how they ought to be equipped and how they're going to fight. I have a lot of RP experience, however not nescessarily war. However, thi is not a real disadvantage. Previous experience has taught us that this position is really rather limited: it is the minister of war's job to look after the men, yes, but other than that all he really does is say "yes, okay, you can use the UPA in *insert war name here*, how many men would you like?"

I vote that I be allowed to assume the position temporarily, at least untill my army model has been put into practice. Then, I'll happily resign.
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Postby Old Erisia » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:23 am

Also, can we get a link to the forum in the OP?
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Postby New Lusitaniagrad » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:20 am

Bokaya wrote:In terms of "minister of war", I've got lots and lots of ideass regarding how the new legions ought to be structured, how they ought to be equipped and how they're going to fight. I have a lot of RP experience, however not nescessarily war. However, thi is not a real disadvantage. Previous experience has taught us that this position is really rather limited: it is the minister of war's job to look after the men, yes, but other than that all he really does is say "yes, okay, you can use the UPA in *insert war name here*, how many men would you like?"

I vote that I be allowed to assume the position temporarily, at least untill my army model has been put into practice. Then, I'll happily resign.


You are quite right, being the Minister of War is more of an organizational job than an actual fighting job. The MoW sees that each member makes their mandatory troop donation and then organizes them into one single fighting force.

Anyways, until a suitable candidate is found Bokaya is acting as MoW.
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Postby Bokaya » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:41 am

Woohoo! I'll get right on the whole organizational thang.
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Postby St George of England » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:12 am

Damn it! I was going to go for MoW.

Can I just say, however, that we should keep apps in a separate thread. Makes it easier to decide and debate them.

We need a thread for the military donations as well.
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Postby Legeonas » Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:52 am

St George of England wrote:Damn it! I was going to go for MoW.

Can I just say, however, that we should keep apps in a separate thread. Makes it easier to decide and debate them.


I didn't know you could hold two seats.
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Postby St George of England » Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:54 am

Legeonas wrote:
St George of England wrote:Damn it! I was going to go for MoW.

Can I just say, however, that we should keep apps in a separate thread. Makes it easier to decide and debate them.


I didn't know you could hold two seats.

I didn't know I had a seat.
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Postby Legeonas » Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:55 am

St George of England wrote:
Legeonas wrote:
I didn't know you could hold two seats.

I didn't know I had a seat.


According to the thread, you're still minister for foreign affairs

EDIT: Shouldn't it be minister for defense, since the Steel Pact is a defensive alliance now?
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Postby St George of England » Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:58 am

Legeonas wrote:
St George of England wrote:I didn't know I had a seat.


According to the thread, you're still minister for foreign affairs

EDIT: Shouldn't it be minister for defense, since the Steel Pact is a defensive alliance now?

Minister for War should be Minister for Defence.
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Postby New Lusitaniagrad » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:02 am

Legeonas wrote:
St George of England wrote:I didn't know I had a seat.


According to the thread, you're still minister for foreign affairs

EDIT: Shouldn't it be minister for defense, since the Steel Pact is a defensive alliance now?

Members of the Pact can be appointed to several postions if I like. I just choose to appoint diffrent members to diffrent seats beaucse it makes organizing the work easier.
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Postby Legeonas » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:04 am

Ah, fair enough. It's just that Council's vote on things, which makes it more democratic if there's more people in the Council, representing more views.
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Postby New Lusitaniagrad » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:21 am

Not exactly, members are appointed to run semi autonomous sections of the administration, because for me to run the entire pact by myself would be extremely difficult. While they can offer their advice only I, or the Deputy should I be absent, have the final say. There is no voting, voting is contradictory to our principles.
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Postby Legeonas » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:23 am

New Lusitaniagrad wrote:Not exactly, members are appointed to run semi autonomous sections of the administration, because for me to run the entire pact by myself would be extremely difficult. While they can offer their advice only I, or the Deputy should I be absent, have the final say. There is no voting, voting is contradictory to our principles.


Ah, okay.
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Postby Tristaniano » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:46 am

Ah ok then.

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Postby Bokaya » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:13 am

I wasn't aware that this was a purely defensive alliance now... *hackles raise*
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Postby Legeonas » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:29 am

Bokaya wrote:I wasn't aware that this was a purely defensive alliance now... *hackles raise*


Did you not read the new charter? :P

EDIT: The Void Act.. I hope this doesn't interfere with our rules, though it does change my application slightly.
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Postby Bokaya » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:09 pm

Hmm... a couple of things on there are questionable, but there you go. National sovereignty and all that jazz.

Anyway, I've been hard at work euipping and training the new UPA. We of Bokaya are happy to announce the first full battalion of the UPA! Two infantry platoons, a command section, an artillery contingent and a tank contingent! Here it is for you to peruse at your leisure. Please note that, at the end of the day, I didn't in fact equip them along the same lines as my common army, but my elite Republican Guard. This means that the weapons and gear they use will be reasonably modern, giving us a fair chance against pretty much any opponent.
As with most Bokayan equipment, the weapons are based on RL designs with a few IC differences. It's the same with the vehicles.

The New Model of The Unified Pact Army

As you can see, I've utilised a Republican Guard style uniform to cut production costs and ease manufacture. You are about to see the standard black colour scheme, but the uniforms are availiable in tan, olive drab, grey and brilliant white. The brilliant white trousers, boots, and shirt and armour are lined with reindeer fur; and a matching balacalava is also availiable, as this is the basis of the uniform of the famous "Antarctic Warfare Regiment, Republican Guard". The tan uniform is made of lighter, thinner cotton.
Cap
Body Armour
Shirt
Trousers
Boots


Full Battalion of the UPA

One Colonel, armed with BNA MHG M1
One Command Radio Operator, armed with BNA BR M1
One Sniper, armed with BNA BR M1SR
One Medic, armed with BNA BR M1
One Support Gunner, armed with BNA LSSW M1


Platoon Command Squad
One Captain, armed with BNA MHG M1
One Command Radio Operator, armed with BNA BR M1
One Sniper, armed with BNA BR M1SR
One Medic, armed with BNA BR M1
One Support Gunner, armed with BNA LSSW M1

Combat Squad One
One Sergeant, armed with BNA LSSW M1
One Radio Operator, armed with BNA BR M1
Eight Soldiers, armed with BNA BR M1

Combat Squad Two
One Sergeant, armed with BNA LSSW M1
One Radio Operator, armed with BNA BR M1
Eight Soldiers, armed with BNA BR M1

Special Support Unit
Ten Support Gunners armed with BNA LSSW M1
OR
Ten Snipers armed with BNA BR M1SR
OR
One Machine Gun Commander armed with BNA BR M1
Three Heavy Machine Gun Crews of three men, armed with BNA MHG M1 and operating BNA HMG M1

Heavy Support Unit
Five Ammunition Bearers, armed with BNA MHG M1
Five Shooters, armed with BNA ATPP M1
OR
One Mortar Commander, armed with BNA BR M1
Three Mortar Crews of three men, armed with BNA MHG M1 and operating BNA VanSaar Automortar M2.

Scout Party
One Radio Operator Sergeant, armed with BNA BR M1SR
Four Snipers, armed with BNA BR M1SR

Light Tank
One BNA RG-7E Ghast

Total Strength
50 men, 1 tank


Platoon Command Squad
One Captain, armed with BNA MHG M1
One Command Radio Operator, armed with BNA BR M1
One Sniper, armed with BNA BR M1SR
One Medic, armed with BNA BR M1
One Support Gunner, armed with BNA LSSW M1

Combat Squad One
One Sergeant, armed with BNA LSSW M1
One Radio Operator, armed with BNA BR M1
Eight Soldiers, armed with BNA BR M1

Combat Squad Two
One Sergeant, armed with BNA LSSW M1
One Radio Operator, armed with BNA BR M1
Eight Soldiers, armed with BNA BR M1

Special Support Unit
Ten Support Gunners armed with BNA LSSW M1
OR
Ten Snipers armed with BNA BR M1SR
OR
One Machine Gun Commander armed with BNA BR M1
Three Heavy Machine Gun Crews of three men, armed with BNA MHG M1 and operating BNA HMG M1

Heavy Support Unit
Five Ammunition Bearers, armed with BNA MHG M1
Five Shooters, armed with BNA ATPP M1
OR
One Mortar Commander, armed with BNA BR M1
Three Mortar Crews of three men, armed with BNA MHG M1 and operating BNA VanSaar Automortar M2.

Scout Party
One Radio Operator Sergeant, armed with BNA BR M1SR
Four Snipers, armed with BNA BR M1SR

Light Tank
One BNA RG-7E Ghast

Total Strength
50 men, 1 tank


Ten BNA Gun, Rifled, 100mm, plus five crew per gun. Fifty men in total.


Main Battle Arm
One BNA MBT-7 Command Varient
Six BNA MBT-7
Cavalry/Tactical Arm
One BNA RG-7E Ghast Command Varient
Two BNA RG-7E Ghast

Total Strength
Ten Tanks


205 Men, inc. tank crews.
10 Artillerypieces
12 Tanks, 5 light, 8 main battle
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