DON'T PANIC! - Gameside down

by **The Blaatschapen** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:57 am

Nea Videssos wrote:I got a bit worried when I just tried logging in several times, and it told me "You have specified an incorrect password. Please check your password and try again" despite it clearly being the right password. Obviously works now, but it was still a bit of a surprise. I'm assuming this has something to do with it?

If you try to login through the forums, and the game-side is down, then yes. This has something to do with it.

The forum tries to login you in through the gameside, but since that is down, it can't, so it just returns the invalid password error instead.

by **Ameige** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:12 am

Ryanimus wrote:is the gameside sever down again?

Not for me. Maybe something is wrong with your internet connection.

by **Araraukar** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:14 am

Ameige wrote:
Ryanimus wrote:is the gameside sever down again?

Not for me. Maybe something is wrong with your internet connection.

He couldn't be on the forums if it was his connection.

For me the gameside currently works, but a bit slowly.

by **Ameige** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:15 am

Araraukar wrote:
Ameige wrote:Not for me. Maybe something is wrong with your internet connection.

He couldn't be on the forums if it was his connection.

For me the gameside currently works, but a bit slowly.

Fair enough point. Game side works just fine for me too.

by **[violet]** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:59 am

More disk troubles, alas. Will be more downtime in the next 24 hours.

by **Bears Armed** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:21 am

Zethes X Spec Ops Team I wrote:So you mean we skipped an update?

Apparently so: the World Census is still ranking us for the same stat as it did yesterday, anyhows...

by **Enfaru** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:19 am

[violet] wrote:More disk troubles, alas. Will be more downtime in the next 24 hours.

Get a Hitachi, they're expensive sure, but they won't easily let you down.

by **Harenhime** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:37 am

[violet] wrote:More disk troubles, alas. Will be more downtime in the next 24 hours.

Would we melt less disks if we had a database instead of a file based system of storing nations?

by **Bears Armed** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:44 am

Harenhime wrote:
[violet] wrote:More disk troubles, alas. Will be more downtime in the next 24 hours.

Would we melt less disks if we had a database instead of a file based system of storing nations?

But the work involved in that changeover would probably melt our Admins!
:roll:

by **Harenhime** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:54 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Harenhime wrote:
Would we melt less disks if we had a database instead of a file based system of storing nations?

But the work involved in that changeover would probably melt our Admins!

/me wonders if we've made enough off stamps and site supporters to hire temp ones to do that

by **Reploid Productions** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:48 am

Harenhime wrote:
[violet] wrote:More disk troubles, alas. Will be more downtime in the next 24 hours.

Would we melt less disks if we had a database instead of a file based system of storing nations?

Probably not, as faulty hardware is faulty hardware, regardless of what's running on it.

by **Socio Polor** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:58 am

[violet] wrote:More disk troubles, alas. Will be more downtime in the next 24 hours.

Again!? Well, guess it can't be helped. Also if I may ask, why do u guys need a disk?

by **Reploid Productions** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:36 pm

Socio polor wrote:
[violet] wrote:More disk troubles, alas. Will be more downtime in the next 24 hours.

Again!? Well, guess it can't be helped. Also if I may ask, why do u guys need a disk?

It's kinda sorta what all our nations are stored on-?

by **Trotterdam** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:45 pm

Too late, I already panicked.

You know, it's a shame that the game site has a humorous error message, but I barely get to see it for one second before being automatically redirected to a lame CloudFlare page.

by **Maljaratas** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:47 pm

It makes me sad that I always miss the times when the game goes down...

by **Vando0sa** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:48 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Socio polor wrote:Again!? Well, guess it can't be helped. Also if I may ask, why do u guys need a disk?

It's kinda sorta what all our nations are stored on-?

That terrifies me.. a global puppet sweep!

by **The Blaatschapen** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:22 pm

Vando0sa wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:It's kinda sorta what all our nations are stored on-?

That terrifies me.. a global puppet sweep!

You never heard of the 0 of 0 bug, back in 2005: http://www.nationstates.net/page=news/2 ... index.html and http://www.nationstates.net/page=news/2 ... index.html

Every nation that logged in *poof*

by **Maljaratas** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:47 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Vando0sa wrote:

That terrifies me.. a global puppet sweep!

You never heard of the 0 of 0 bug, back in 2005: http://www.nationstates.net/page=news/2 ... index.html and http://www.nationstates.net/page=news/2 ... index.html

Every nation that logged in *poof*

What happened when the admins logged in?

by **Reploid Productions** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:03 pm

Maljaratas wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
You never heard of the 0 of 0 bug, back in 2005: http://www.nationstates.net/page=news/2 ... index.html and http://www.nationstates.net/page=news/2 ... index.html

Every nation that logged in *poof*

What happened when the admins logged in?

[violet] doesn't have an actual nation associated with the forum account, she has direct access to all the backend server-y stuff.

by **Lockdownn** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:04 pm

Maljaratas wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
You never heard of the 0 of 0 bug, back in 2005: http://www.nationstates.net/page=news/2 ... index.html and http://www.nationstates.net/page=news/2 ... index.html

Every nation that logged in *poof*

What happened when the admins logged in?

I'll assume that their accounts are "special" as in when they are promoted they are added to an "untouchable" section of storage.

But then again, what do I know?

by **Lockdownn** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:05 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Maljaratas wrote:What happened when the admins logged in?

[violet] doesn't have an actual nation associated with the forum account, she has direct access to all the backend server-y stuff.

What about Salusa?

by **Maljaratas** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:06 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Maljaratas wrote:What happened when the admins logged in?

[violet] doesn't have an actual nation associated with the forum account, she has direct access to all the backend server-y stuff.

I mean, I know she doesn't have a nation, because I tried to find it once, but what about Salusa, (did you have Forum Admin back then), or whatever admins were back then but are now retired.
Follow up question; what about the Forum Mods of the time?

by **Caelapes** » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:23 pm

The techies doubtless all have access to the filesystem where nation data is stored and to the SQL server that this forum runs on. That access wouldn't be revoked by the 0 of 0 bug, which was a problem with NationStates code that affected nation data, not shell users on the server used for nation data.

Back when that happened, I think NS still used the Jolt forum, so forum accounts would not have been affected.

by **Bedetopia** » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:14 am

Damn, I was accustomed to getting my issues at specific times and this downtime changed everything. I suppose fixing the issue timers isn't possible?

by **Trotterdam** » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:30 am

Exact timing would be less of a concern if there were a little more room in the issue folder so you don't have to check in multiple times a day just to keep it from filling up.

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