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Skellig
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Postby Skellig » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:16 am

To: Carthage
From: Government and Monarchy of Skellig

You are a truly horrible nation whose intentions lie directly in using weapons of mass destruction to extort more civil nations than your Psychotic Dictatorship. We will however agree to have a discussion. We would intently fly a delegate from one of our carriers to your capital in order to have a meeting. Under the premise that should he not return,that your nation is under striking distance from our Nuclear Submarines and Naval Fleet.

We would happily agree to any economic,military,cultural assistance should Carthage agree to give up their WMD'S.

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Postby Queendom of Carthage » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:20 am

Skellig wrote:
To: Carthage
From: Government and Monarchy of Skellig

You are a truly horrible nation whose intentions lie directly in using weapons of mass destruction to extort more civil nations than your Psychotic Dictatorship. We will however agree to have a discussion. We would intently fly a delegate from one of our carriers to your capital in order to have a meeting. Under the premise that should he not return,that your nation is under striking distance from our Nuclear Submarines and Naval Fleet.

We would happily agree to any economic,military,cultural assistance should Carthage agree to give up their WMD'S.

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From: the Queendom of Carthage

You might genuinely have the wrong nation if you mean't what you wrote in the first sentence. Regardless we shall await your delegates arrival.
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Postby Vulkata II » Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:22 am

Vulkatan capitol building
It was 12:00 Vulkatan time and that was lunch.

Diplomats went outside and John went outside as well waving goodbye as he leaves heading to the right while the others headed to the left and John went in his Lincoln mobile.

He went back to his home and ate boneless chicken,Boneless Bangus and some garlic rice his mom prepared him and after drawing a submarine of his own design in his notebook he kissed his mom goodbye and headed back to the Capitol building.

By the time he came back it was 12:35 PM but some diplomats came back with smiles on their faces and newspapers on their armpits and John went into a newspaper deposit and paid 15 Vulkan cent and grabbed a newspaper as well.

They all sat on the long circular black sofa's that was meant for waiting guests and then some people came out of the food court but the diplomats read the daily news and they along with John was not happy on what they're reading.

"Wow they hate each other" a diplomat said

"Well i don't like nukes and some of our "friends" would use it against us if they would" another one said

"Well let's try on making peace with them if this is going to fail" John said and all of them read their newspapers.
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Postby The Cyberiad Council » Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:26 am

Citadel, The Cyberiad
The Commander Prime was seated at his desk reading over some ludicrous issue that had been plaguing his citizens when his secretary walked in the room.
"Commander Prime, we have new intelligence on the Carthage situation."
"Very good, let me see."
Intelligence report
Subject: Carthage Situation
Our satellites have observed that The Government and Monarchy of Skellig is beginning to prime nuclear warheads. Peace talks are underway in Carthage. Skellig vessels are still in Carthage waters.
End report

"This is getting out of hand, I hope it can be diffused in the peace talks, but the suspected actions of Skellig do not bode well for its success. Call the Council, I need to speak to Orwell.'

"Right away sir.'

After the Cyberiad Council had assembled around the circular discussion table, The Commander Prime took his seat.
"Counselors you have all been briefed on the situation in Carthage, correct?

"Yes sir, we have all been briefed."

"Good, then we may discuss our options if the peace talks fail." Turning his attention to the head of the Intelligence department The commander prime asked, "Is there a way for us to remotely seize control of their nuclear weapons systems?"

"No sir, we do not have a remote terminal in place, and a full range Cyber attack would take time, and is not guaranteed to succeed."

"Orwell, can you prep a Spec Ops team to infiltrate Carthage and Skellig to set us a remote terminal to gain access to their systems?"
The Commander-In -Chief stood, "We can definitely prep a Spec Ops team and plant the remote terminal, however it would not affect any vehicle-based Nuclear attack, such as from submarines."

"Very well then, prep the Muninn for takeoff."

"Yes sir." The Commander replied as he hurried to oversee the prep.


A few hours later, the Muninn, and Archangel cargo plane (compare to a C-17), took off on a course to Skellig flying at its maximum service ceiling. Carrying two five-man spec ops teams.

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Postby Skellig » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:01 am

8AM SES Skellrovia Carrier 10 miles out from Carthage shores:

Admiral Wyatt smoking his cigar said 'Alright, board Mr Baker on to the chopper , make it quick we have a fighter about to touch down in 10 minutes' gesturing towards the MI8 helicopter, Mr Baker sat in and within minutes the helicopter flew towards Mainland Carthage to land in an airfield.

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To: Carthage
From: Skellig Government and Monarchy
Encryption: Maximum

Our delegate has been dispatched and is due to arrive very soon, He is quite stubborn and will only eat the finest fish and red wine. We hope to find a peaceful non nuclear resolution.
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Postby Queendom of Carthage » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:55 am

As the chopper was touching down, Philosir as waiting outside. He looked like an average citizen of Carthage in a white tunic. As Mr. Baker stepped out Philosir was the only person in sight. "Greetings Mr. Baker of SKellig, I am Philosir. I shall be taking you to the Queen." The airport was not in the city itself but rather to the side of the city as it was considered (just like driving cars IN a city) not to be aesthetically pleasing.
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Postby Skellig » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:12 am

Queendom of Carthage wrote:As the chopper was touching down, Philosir as waiting outside. He looked like an average citizen of Carthage in a white tunic. As Mr. Baker stepped out Philosir was the only person in sight. "Greetings Mr. Baker of SKellig, I am Philosir. I shall be taking you to the Queen." The airport was not in the city itself but rather to the side of the city as it was considered (just like driving cars IN a city) not to be aesthetically pleasing.

Mr Baker would have a tribute of three of Skellig's finest Ostrich egg's of the harvest and happily present them 'Hello your majesty, The All Mighty Empire of Skellig is willing to offer anything in return for your nuclear disarmnment, Quite literally.'

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Postby Queendom of Carthage » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:15 am

OOC: I'm going to assume that we drove, because the Queen wasn't at the airport, she was at her palace.

Standing by the open end of her Palace the Queen wondered... "And exactly why do you want nuclear disarmament. Your nation is in possession of nuclear weapons. Do we not have that freedom?"
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Postby Skellig » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:21 am

Queendom of Carthage wrote:OOC: I'm going to assume that we drove, because the Queen wasn't at the airport, she was at her palace.

Standing by the open end of her Palace the Queen wondered... "And exactly why do you want nuclear disarmament. Your nation is in possession of nuclear weapons. Do we not have that freedom?"

Mr Baker stood relcuctantly speaking , 'Your nation is a relatively small dictatorship essentially, ours is a Major Democracy with a population of several hundred million. No non-democracy is entitled to Nuclear Warheads. You are a Queen, not an elected official. '

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Postby Queendom of Carthage » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:46 pm

Skellig wrote:
Queendom of Carthage wrote:OOC: I'm going to assume that we drove, because the Queen wasn't at the airport, she was at her palace.

Standing by the open end of her Palace the Queen wondered... "And exactly why do you want nuclear disarmament. Your nation is in possession of nuclear weapons. Do we not have that freedom?"

Mr Baker stood relcuctantly speaking , 'Your nation is a relatively small dictatorship essentially, ours is a Major Democracy with a population of several hundred million. No non-democracy is entitled to Nuclear Warheads. You are a Queen, not an elected official. '

"And you have a corporate police state run by a bunch of traitors to their own country. You have a government that kills its own people for the sake on disarming a fellow sovereign state. Does that entitle you to Nuclear Warheads? Of course it does. I am a Queen who provides a higher amount of both personal and economic freedom to my citizens. The millimeters of higher political freedom which you claim to have don't change that is is a very low amount. As for your statement that non-democracies aren't entitled, you better disarm yourself then."
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Postby Skellig » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:20 pm

Queendom of Carthage wrote:
Skellig wrote:Mr Baker stood relcuctantly speaking , 'Your nation is a relatively small dictatorship essentially, ours is a Major Democracy with a population of several hundred million. No non-democracy is entitled to Nuclear Warheads. You are a Queen, not an elected official. '

"And you have a corporate police state run by a bunch of traitors to their own country. You have a government that kills its own people for the sake on disarming a fellow sovereign state. Does that entitle you to Nuclear Warheads? Of course it does. I am a Queen who provides a higher amount of both personal and economic freedom to my citizens. The millimeters of higher political freedom which you claim to have don't change that is is a very low amount. As for your statement that non-democracies aren't entitled, you better disarm yourself then."

"We are not in the interest of word wars, I am here to negotiate. We want you to disarm, what do you desire in return ?"

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Postby The Untied Federation of Russia » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:23 pm

After hearing about the peace talks Russia orders their air force to come back to New Moscow but if peace talks fails Russia will get ready to launch it's WMD's.
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Postby Queendom of Carthage » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:27 pm

Skellig wrote:
Queendom of Carthage wrote:"And you have a corporate police state run by a bunch of traitors to their own country. You have a government that kills its own people for the sake on disarming a fellow sovereign state. Does that entitle you to Nuclear Warheads? Of course it does. I am a Queen who provides a higher amount of both personal and economic freedom to my citizens. The millimeters of higher political freedom which you claim to have don't change that is is a very low amount. As for your statement that non-democracies aren't entitled, you better disarm yourself then."

"We are not in the interest of word wars, I am here to negotiate. We want you to disarm, what do you desire in return ?"

"Seeing as you have demanded a pacifist nation halt its affairs and your country has already committed acts or war via blockade, you seem to be very interested in starting a world war. Carthage on the other hand doesn't. You want us to disarm, we want to keep peace. There is no way that your nation will get us to disarm without destroying itself in the process. All you can do is back down and return to peace. Am I understood?"
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Postby Skellig » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:32 pm

Queendom of Carthage wrote:
Skellig wrote:"We are not in the interest of word wars, I am here to negotiate. We want you to disarm, what do you desire in return ?"

"Seeing as you have demanded a pacifist nation halt its affairs and your country has already committed acts or war via blockade, you seem to be very interested in starting a world war. Carthage on the other hand doesn't. You want us to disarm, we want to keep peace. There is no way that your nation will get us to disarm without destroying itself in the process. All you can do is back down and return to peace. Am I understood?"

"Our military ,populace, manufacturing potential and all other indicators show that the odds are in our favor. Since you show no real lust for peace, I shall leave. And most likely the blockade shall continue, it's only a matter of time before your economy collapses." Mr Baker would leave the room, and if he is not interrupted would return to the Carrier.

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Postby Queendom of Carthage » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:35 pm

Skellig wrote:
Queendom of Carthage wrote:"Seeing as you have demanded a pacifist nation halt its affairs and your country has already committed acts or war via blockade, you seem to be very interested in starting a world war. Carthage on the other hand doesn't. You want us to disarm, we want to keep peace. There is no way that your nation will get us to disarm without destroying itself in the process. All you can do is back down and return to peace. Am I understood?"

"Our military ,populace, manufacturing potential and all other indicators show that the odds are in our favor. Since you show no real lust for peace, I shall leave. And most likely the blockade shall continue, it's only a matter of time before your economy collapses." Mr Baker would leave the room, and if he is not interrupted would return to the Carrier.

"Quite ignorant of you. Not only that you are willing to sacrifice your entire country to blockade about two ships from entering a country, but that you don't realize I will launch nuclear strikes if it continues."
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Postby Skellig » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:39 pm

"Our nation has contingency plans, yours does not. We have over 10 nuclear submarines ready to launch right now 30 Nuclear Warheads. And since you have only recently had your first successful detonation, it is unlikely even if you launched your entire nuclear warhead set, which we are making the assumption that you have intercontinental ballistic missiles that you could destroy the Great Nation of Skellig.

If we do not get a resolution soon, we will be sending both Nuclear and Chemical weapons to your shores"
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Postby Queendom of Carthage » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:43 pm

Skellig wrote:"Our nation has contingency plans, yours does not. We have over 10 nuclear submarines ready to launch right now 30 Nuclear Warheads. And since you have only recently had your first successful detonation, it is unlikely even if you launched your entire nuclear warhead set, which we are making the assumption that you have intercontinental ballistic missiles that you could destroy the Great Nation of Skellig.

If we do not get a resolution soon, we will be sending both Nuclear and Chemical weapons to your shores"

"Obviously you have nuclear submarines, we detected your fleets hours ago when they entered the Mediterranean. I don't think you understand. Nuclear weapons are the great equalizer. Both our nations will be completely and entirely destroyed and yet you do not step down and persist that a state of war must exist? Your country is like North Korea if you ask me."
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Postby Skellig » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:45 pm

Skellig Post: The Menace Never Sleeps!

Today we have reports that the nation of Carthage has been exploiting infants in order to progress their chemical weapons program, sadly this is nothing new as many similar experiments have came to light in the past.

However, you can be safe from the Menace that is Carthage, dispatched to every house,school and hospital is a gas mask for each person, with instructions. Get used to it! When the Carthaginian menace strikes , it will be the only thing between you.... and the fallout.


When the Carthaginian menace strikes, do not look for other family members, they have likely made their way to authorities. instead seek cover in your basement, or head to your local Fallout shelter, Law Enforcement will be on every road to ensure you make it their in saftey. Ensure you have a portable radio and adequate water supplies if staying at home. God Bless Skellig.
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Postby Queendom of Carthage » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:47 pm

Skellig wrote:
Skellig Post: The Menace Never Sleeps!

Today we have reports that the nation of Carthage has been exploiting infants in order to progress their chemical weapons program, sadly this is nothing new as many similar experiments have came to light in the past.

However, you can be safe from the Menace that is Carthage, dispatched to every house,school and hospital is a gas mask for each person, with instructions. Get used to it! When the Carthaginian menace strikes , it will be the only thing between you.... and the fallout.


When the Carthaginian menace strikes, do not look for other family members, they have likely made their way to authorities. instead seek cover in your basement, or head to your local Fallout shelter, Law Enforcement will be on every road to ensure you make it their in saftey. Ensure you have a portable radio and adequate water supplies if staying at home. God Bless Skellig.
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OOC: Your people are genuinely brainwashed
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Postby Skellig » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:48 pm

Queendom of Carthage wrote:
Skellig wrote:"Our nation has contingency plans, yours does not. We have over 10 nuclear submarines ready to launch right now 30 Nuclear Warheads. And since you have only recently had your first successful detonation, it is unlikely even if you launched your entire nuclear warhead set, which we are making the assumption that you have intercontinental ballistic missiles that you could destroy the Great Nation of Skellig.

If we do not get a resolution soon, we will be sending both Nuclear and Chemical weapons to your shores"

"Obviously you have nuclear submarines, we detected your fleets hours ago when they entered the Mediterranean. I don't think you understand. Nuclear weapons are the great equalizer. Both our nations will be completely and entirely destroyed and yet you do not step down and persist that a state of war must exist? Your country is like North Korea if you ask me."

"I think this meeting has run it's course, if you have anything objective to bring to the table, any compromise we would be happy. Out of sheer curiosity, would you even agree to a treaty limiting the amount of Nuclear Warheads you possess?"

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Postby Skellig » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:48 pm

Queendom of Carthage wrote:
Skellig wrote:
Skellig Post: The Menace Never Sleeps!

Today we have reports that the nation of Carthage has been exploiting infants in order to progress their chemical weapons program, sadly this is nothing new as many similar experiments have came to light in the past.

However, you can be safe from the Menace that is Carthage, dispatched to every house,school and hospital is a gas mask for each person, with instructions. Get used to it! When the Carthaginian menace strikes , it will be the only thing between you.... and the fallout.


When the Carthaginian menace strikes, do not look for other family members, they have likely made their way to authorities. instead seek cover in your basement, or head to your local Fallout shelter, Law Enforcement will be on every road to ensure you make it their in saftey. Ensure you have a portable radio and adequate water supplies if staying at home. God Bless Skellig.
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OOC: Your people are genuinely brainwashed

OOC: The Skellig Post is owned by the state so that might have something to do with it ;)

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Postby Queendom of Carthage » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:51 pm

Skellig wrote:
Queendom of Carthage wrote:"Obviously you have nuclear submarines, we detected your fleets hours ago when they entered the Mediterranean. I don't think you understand. Nuclear weapons are the great equalizer. Both our nations will be completely and entirely destroyed and yet you do not step down and persist that a state of war must exist? Your country is like North Korea if you ask me."

"I think this meeting has run it's course, if you have anything objective to bring to the table, any compromise we would be happy. Out of sheer curiosity, would you even agree to a treaty limiting the amount of Nuclear Warheads you possess?"

"I truly don't understand you people. You're the Kings of interventionism, but you do it for all the wrong reasons. Good day, your chopper is still at the airport."
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Postby Skellig » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:53 pm

"Whilst I do understand your concerns , ultimately the decision is not up to me. " Mr Baker was now sweating at the possibility of nuclear war, and was wondering if what the Government told him about Carthage was correct, he returned to the carrier.

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Postby Skellig » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:59 pm

War Cabinet Bunker 300 feet Below Skellrovia:
Overseer Ryan gestured towards the Microphone and began speaking, "Ladies and gentlemen, I am sad to announce today that our delegate has returned with no fruits of success, they never had any intention of peace and indeed threatened to launch Nuclear Warheads against our shores, we must act decisively and hurry along the 'Action A43' chemical for deployment soon. But right now I am requesting that we aim 150 Nuclear Warheads at Carthage and prepare for launch at a minutes notice should we detect anything'

The War Cabinet discussed passionately for a few minutes before deciding that it was the best course of action. The Warheads have been aimed.

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