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Postby Topkekkia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:04 pm

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My president buried Watson in a state funeral, you guys got nothing on Watson. Also, as top said smoke has made bad shots go not well. The entire area is as already discussed a rather regular flatish forest. That doesn't make for good sniper angles before smoke.


Thermal Vision on Scope as well as laser sight which could help to identify moving objects in smoke.

Watson? And if he's dead how is he a problem?

I did specify IR smoke. And a laser isn't very helpful when people are behind the smoke, not in it. And Watson's only officially dead.
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Postby New Decius » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:13 pm

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Thermal Vision on Scope as well as laser sight which could help to identify moving objects in smoke.

Watson? And if he's dead how is he a problem?

I did specify IR smoke. And a laser isn't very helpful when people are behind the smoke, not in it. And Watson's only officially dead.


And officially the people of this team exist only by word of mouth that is passed from the Kaiser to the KSK-Oberstgruppenführer and then from him to the commander of this team. If you've ever read 1984 by George Orwell, basically its the same as how people get Unwritten in that scenario. No record whatsoever, families disappear, friends are plucked off the street, every trace of these people existing is removed from existance. Would any government take such precautions if it wasn't worth it.

Your guy Roman has already met and learned the background of one member of this team, whom shall also soon be Unwritten (Goodbye Panzergrenadier Regiment 17, you've been relieved of duty), but I can provide background on the others if it would help to gauge their abilities.
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Postby Topkekkia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:18 pm

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Topkekkia wrote:I did specify IR smoke. And a laser isn't very helpful when people are behind the smoke, not in it. And Watson's only officially dead.


And officially the people of this team exist only by word of mouth that is passed from the Kaiser to the KSK-Oberstgruppenführer and then from him to the commander of this team. If you've ever read 1984 by George Orwell, basically its the same as how people get Unwritten in that scenario. No record whatsoever, families disappear, friends are plucked off the street, every trace of these people existing is removed from existance. Would any government take such precautions if it wasn't worth it.

Your guy Roman has already met and learned the background of one member of this team, whom shall also soon be Unwritten (Goodbye Panzergrenadier Regiment 17, you've been relieved of duty), but I can provide background on the others if it would help to gauge their abilities.

I'll try to work that in
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Postby Pillowlandia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:42 pm

Buried as in a false casket, not even the government knows Watson is alive. Except about five, well I guess it's ten if you count his new team
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Postby Topkekkia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:43 pm

Pillowlandia wrote:Buried as in a false casket, not even the government knows Watson is alive. Except about five, well I guess it's ten if you count his new team

If they don't know that he's alive, how do you have him know where to go?
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Postby New Decius » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:53 pm

Topkekkia wrote:
Pillowlandia wrote:Buried as in a false casket, not even the government knows Watson is alive. Except about five, well I guess it's ten if you count his new team

If they don't know that he's alive, how do you have him know where to go?


The easy part about my nations Unwritten operatives is that one of the two people whom known they exist or have existed is the sovereign so his orders are usually personally issued to them.
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Postby Pillowlandia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:53 pm

Topkekkia wrote:
Pillowlandia wrote:Buried as in a false casket, not even the government knows Watson is alive. Except about five, well I guess it's ten if you count his new team

If they don't know that he's alive, how do you have him know where to go?



Think the Spartan program, but a lot smaller.... Think the winter soldier with less brainwashing. Well, the admiral in charge of ONI knows he's alive. One or two rear admirals too, and his handler. Plus the five members of his team. But he's dead to the government, like really dead. just like Persia
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Postby Topkekkia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:05 pm

Pillowlandia wrote:
Topkekkia wrote:If they don't know that he's alive, how do you have him know where to go?



Think the Spartan program, but a lot smaller.... Think the winter soldier with less brainwashing. Well, the admiral in charge of ONI knows he's alive. One or two rear admirals too, and his handler. Plus the five members of his team. But he's dead to the government, like really dead. just like Persia

So, the government effectively just knows that his team exists unlike Pillowlandia Minor in a few years
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Postby New Decius » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:02 am

You still haven't explained what makes Watson such a big threat
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Postby Topkekkia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:30 am

New Decius wrote:You still haven't explained what makes Watson such a big threat

Other than him being a well armed spook actively helping rebels?
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Postby Pillowlandia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:26 am

He's just my best field agent, with an interesting backstory, sorta. That's about it.
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Postby Spektronia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:57 pm

I got u new Decius lol
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  • Head Madame Häussler "enjoys her duties as an envoy", meeting with French President Macron.
  • Vice-Chancellor Heinrich Alexander Häussler heads colonial administrative efforts in Nigeria, is appointed General Governor of Nigeria.

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Postby Topkekkia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:03 pm

Spektronia wrote:I got u new Decius lol

Just like Jean's about to have a .45 aneurysm?
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Postby Pillowlandia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:05 pm

Spektronia wrote:I got u new Decius lol


>opens fire at an explicitly armored person. Person is wearing expensive spy armor. Expects things to go well. Prep to get rekt Scrub.

also, what guns are you even using? the germans have said they're using auto-pistols of a sort, I'm using a standard issue (for me) CR-04.
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Postby New Decius » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:26 pm

Pillowlandia wrote:
Spektronia wrote:I got u new Decius lol


>opens fire at an explicitly armored person. Person is wearing expensive spy armor. Expects things to go well. Prep to get rekt Scrub.

also, what guns are you even using? the germans have said they're using auto-pistols of a sort, I'm using a standard issue (for me) CR-04.


The combat armor issued to my operatives is resistant enough to all but high velocity sniper rounds and machine guns. They get it now, and two years later the Panzergrenadier's get it.
Proud advocate that Europe stands stronger together than divided. The EU may be flawed in some areas but the idea of a united Europa can only bring good fortune to Europe and the world. For more than two thousand years, Europe was home to conflicts inspired by coveting one another's territory and resources, even making the continent the home to some of the world's most destructive and costly conflicts. But the idea was all wrong in their minds. Their idea was to bring this territory or that under their flag and spread influence on the continent. The idea they should all have been thinking was that the goal should be to bring the continent under one unified flag.

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Postby Topkekkia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:30 pm

New Decius wrote:
Pillowlandia wrote:
>opens fire at an explicitly armored person. Person is wearing expensive spy armor. Expects things to go well. Prep to get rekt Scrub.

also, what guns are you even using? the germans have said they're using auto-pistols of a sort, I'm using a standard issue (for me) CR-04.


The combat armor issued to my operatives is resistant enough to all but high velocity sniper rounds and machine guns. They get it now, and two years later the Panzergrenadier's get it.

Roman doesn't even have armor. That said, my operatives get to use whatever they like.
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Postby Spektronia » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:35 pm

Pillowlandia wrote:
Spektronia wrote:I got u new Decius lol


>opens fire at an explicitly armored person. Person is wearing expensive spy armor. Expects things to go well. Prep to get rekt Scrub.

also, what guns are you even using? the germans have said they're using auto-pistols of a sort, I'm using a standard issue (for me) CR-04.

-47s
Even the back of their heads? They're just using standard issue AK-47s, they were part of the disguise.
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  • Chancellor Häussler meets with Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah of Hezboallah.
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Postby New Decius » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:23 pm

If someone does not post right now, I am going to fire a nuke at Moscow! Wait wrong incentive, I will fire a nuke at every ice cream factory in the world!
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Postby The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:30 pm

New Decius wrote:If someone does not post right now, I am going to fire a nuke at Moscow! Wait wrong incentive, I will fire a nuke at every ice cream factory in the world!

Yay, ice cream is spared!
Capilean News (Updated 16 November)
Where is the horse gone? Where the warrior?
Where is the treasure-giver? Where are the seats at the feast?
Where are the revels in the hall?
Alas for the bright cup! Alas for the mailed warrior!
Alas for the splendour of the prince!
How that time has passed away, dark under the cover of night, as if it never were.

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Postby The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:14 pm

So, they're something we need to talk about. I'll be going on vacation on Monday, and I'll be gone for roughly two weeks. During that time I will have my computer but I won't have an internet connection. So we have a problem.
I can try and post either on my phone, which will have internet connection(but I'll be using data so 1) Posts will be rare and 2)Posts will be low quality since it'll be on mobile), or I can go to the public library and use their computers(or I suppose I could go to Starbucks or MacDonald's or somewhere with WiFi).

If you guys don't want to deal with that then our only other options are either wrapping this RP up prematurely(with a possibility for a sequel?) or putting it on hold until I get back. That last one is kinda risky since usually when that happens a lot of people don't come back to continue it.

So what do you guys think? I'm completely open for suggestions or using any of these options, although I'd be a little sad if people want me to end this RP. Maybe I'll make a poll later.
Capilean News (Updated 16 November)
Where is the horse gone? Where the warrior?
Where is the treasure-giver? Where are the seats at the feast?
Where are the revels in the hall?
Alas for the bright cup! Alas for the mailed warrior!
Alas for the splendour of the prince!
How that time has passed away, dark under the cover of night, as if it never were.

The Wanderer

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Postby New Decius » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:26 pm

The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:So, they're something we need to talk about. I'll be going on vacation on Monday, and I'll be gone for roughly two weeks. During that time I will have my computer but I won't have an internet connection. So we have a problem.
I can try and post either on my phone, which will have internet connection(but I'll be using data so 1) Posts will be rare and 2)Posts will be low quality since it'll be on mobile), or I can go to the public library and use their computers(or I suppose I could go to Starbucks or MacDonald's or somewhere with WiFi).

If you guys don't want to deal with that then our only other options are either wrapping this RP up prematurely(with a possibility for a sequel?) or putting it on hold until I get back. That last one is kinda risky since usually when that happens a lot of people don't come back to continue it.

So what do you guys think? I'm completely open for suggestions or using any of these options, although I'd be a little sad if people want me to end this RP. Maybe I'll make a poll later.


It's only two weeks, I think we can keep it alive until you get back.

[Get's defibrillator]

CLEAR! Sorry that was close!

Anyway, there's the whole camp bit going on and I can always have my token forces already in Capile combat the rebels to give the Capilean military a break.
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Postby The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:29 pm

Topkekkia wrote:
Cesopium wrote:The sides are beginning to basically look like Germans vs everyone else

That's just because most people who run a country that aligns with Nova Capile's beliefs happen to be going for a First Reich vibe

This goes way back, but how is my nation comparable to the Holy Roman Empire?
Capilean News (Updated 16 November)
Where is the horse gone? Where the warrior?
Where is the treasure-giver? Where are the seats at the feast?
Where are the revels in the hall?
Alas for the bright cup! Alas for the mailed warrior!
Alas for the splendour of the prince!
How that time has passed away, dark under the cover of night, as if it never were.

The Wanderer

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Postby Pillowlandia » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:44 pm

to be fair, we could wrap up negotiations between the pillowlandians and the Capilians quickly with me walking out. That would allow the RP to move onto the next phase which involves my forces preparing for a landing on either your south or western coasts. (maybe both??) Besides the obvious breakdown in negotiations that will happen most of the actual fighting could probably just be dumped on New Decius until you return. Either that or we could just have the rebels disappear for a few weeks and then come back better armed and trained for... reasons?

sidenote, if you ordered an extraction squad I don't think they will like an empty field where the call from a sat phone went through in some dirt poor nation. Not going to lie, half expected a heartfelt call to his family instead of some cryptic message to a clearly false pizza place.
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Postby New Decius » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:46 pm

The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:
Topkekkia wrote:That's just because most people who run a country that aligns with Nova Capile's beliefs happen to be going for a First Reich vibe

This goes way back, but how is my nation comparable to the Holy Roman Empire?


I think their confused.

Here is the list of Reich's (Which means Empire essentially so let's just say a list of Empire's)

First Reich was the Holy Roman Empire which was a collection of German States and Austrian dominions ruled overall by the Emperor of Austria, dissolved following Austria's defeat at the hands of Napoleon

Second Reich was the German Empire which formed in 1871 after the Kingdom of Prussia steamrolled France in the Franco-Prussian War and which was disbanded following WWI (Stupid Allies and their stupid treaty)

Third Reich was the National Socialist Regime in Germany (1933-1945)
Proud advocate that Europe stands stronger together than divided. The EU may be flawed in some areas but the idea of a united Europa can only bring good fortune to Europe and the world. For more than two thousand years, Europe was home to conflicts inspired by coveting one another's territory and resources, even making the continent the home to some of the world's most destructive and costly conflicts. But the idea was all wrong in their minds. Their idea was to bring this territory or that under their flag and spread influence on the continent. The idea they should all have been thinking was that the goal should be to bring the continent under one unified flag.

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Postby The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:50 pm

Pillowlandia wrote:to be fair, we could wrap up negotiations between the pillowlandians and the Capilians quickly with me walking out. That would allow the RP to move onto the next phase which involves my forces preparing for a landing on either your south or western coasts. (maybe both??) Besides the obvious breakdown in negotiations that will happen most of the actual fighting could probably just be dumped on New Decius until you return. Either that or we could just have the rebels disappear for a few weeks and then come back better armed and trained for... reasons?

sidenote, if you ordered an extraction squad I don't think they will like an empty field where the call from a sat phone went through in some dirt poor nation. Not going to lie, half expected a heartfelt call to his family instead of some cryptic message to a clearly false pizza place.

Oh no, the pizza place wasn't supposed to be fake. Sorry if I didn't make it seem real, I don't order pizzas very often. But yeah, he just called a pizza parlor he remembered from back home.
:p
EDIT:
Okay, I'll consider handing over control of my country to New Decius and Spektronia while I'm away.
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Capilean News (Updated 16 November)
Where is the horse gone? Where the warrior?
Where is the treasure-giver? Where are the seats at the feast?
Where are the revels in the hall?
Alas for the bright cup! Alas for the mailed warrior!
Alas for the splendour of the prince!
How that time has passed away, dark under the cover of night, as if it never were.

The Wanderer

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