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[Poland-Krakow]

Who owns Italy? I want to see if I can become an Albanian Resistance.

Me. I wouldn't mind; it would actually be pretty fun. BTW, I really think that 2 million is pushing it. Maybe if that was including reserves..

Cool. I'll apply first. What do you mean by 2 million?

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

Me. I wouldn't mind; it would actually be pretty fun. BTW, I really think that 2 million is pushing it. Maybe if that was including reserves..

Cool. I'll apply first. What do you mean by 2 million?

US troop count.

[Poland-Krakow]

Cool. I'll apply first. What do you mean by 2 million?

US troop count.

Ok. Is Mussolini in power in your Italy?

[The Dutch-Prussian Empire]

Let me start off by saying this;

I am completely unhappy by the amount of "bitching" by the Philippines, the United Kingdom and and to a real less extent. This was a matter that could of easily been solved by a simple telegram and not dragged out into the IC and the OOC. On top of this, it seems as if you all have piss poor reading skills however I will address the problems highlighted to me. Philippines did not need to "temporarily leave" the RP over a thing that could be solved in 2 seconds, its petty shit like this that annoys me.

1 - Troop Size

> Ok, this is maybe the only 1 or 2 I am willing to compromise on
> 3 million will be reduced to 2 million
> Conscription etc will still be effect and contribute to my troop numbers
> I will reduce troop numbers deployed to Europe

Oh and for that Philippines idiot who "laughed" at the Marine raiders;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Raiders

Still laughing.
They are infamous because of the Japs M8.
I aint no Jap. Ain't no war in my front with ur Marines.

[Poland-Krakow]

I might be Haiti.

[The Belkan States]

Another thing that Dutch pointed out; how is the American publicly with a sudden immense mobilization! IRL WW2 they were patriotic because of Pearl Harbor, and rallied behind the war effort. And now, with the pre war isolationism SO popular among the Americans, they're completely behind a complete mobilization of millions because... Some far away countries mobilized???

I found the magic word;

Conscription

If you also read the USAs OOC posts you will find that it id an alternate USA, socialist leaning and its driving force is the hate of the spread of Fascism.

USA is an observer of WarPac.
Dutch Empire and USA are FPA.

I understand your "issues" but im struggling to see your point.

There was a US before this and they were following IRL US. So, there is no way that everything would change all of a sudden as it is a democracy still, not a totalitarian dictatorship. America, in IRL and IC, would not all of a sudden go into a mobilization out of war, nor could they get 3 million troops into Europe in two weeks.

[The Belkan States]

The Hispaniolan government wants to be sure that both Japan and the UK wouldn't attack Hispaniola so far.

Youre already being bombed bud

[The Dutch-Prussian Empire]

Actually we're just now entering 1939. I suggest everyone in the damn thread calm down before moderation has to step in. While I do agree that if anything he should only have a basic prototype for the M4, seeing as it entered production in 1942, you have to calm down. The Dutch are launching aircraft carriers, the Philippines have a competent military ( ), and Poland has a decent navy. If you want to complain about someone, make sure you aren't poking holes in yourself.

I have extremely weak and Underpowered AC's. 6 types of vehicles being produced in factories. My tanks are the only formidable shites you are gonna encounter.

I agree with the prototype part. the T-29 prototype was completed 1943.

But i don't get where the T-29 comes from (And the Pershing, and the Easy 8 ).
Are you seriously time travelling or crossing another dimension? Where did you get the basic designs for these? It has to be researched man. you have to slowly move up.

My tanks actually kinda suck. They are the most basic tanks i can think of. They are meant against jap tanks. (But its armed with High Velocity guns so yeah it will kinda fvck u up 1st )

And no one reads this part:

It would take some time for your factories to switch to war-time production and even worse is that you make it sound so easy to produce foreign made military vehicles without disrupting the assembly line.

AND THIS!

You sure this aint bad for your economy? sure it won't cause massive shortages in food, raw materials, fuel, etc. and affect people's lives? Question your president's actions?

And your army of conscripts, they aren't professional/well trained
I kept an army of 600,000 men. Well trained with 200,000 conscripts and more arriving.
Everyone complains about me having an AC but what about the Dutch? They have tons of ships.

I have more things to brag about, but im limiting this to this as of now.
I don't really want to halt your progress guys but please make it fair for both of us.
Germany can deploy Rattes in a zap.

[The Dutch-Prussian Empire]

Hey crockerland and Genyulan.

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

US troop count.

Ok. Is Mussolini in power in your Italy?

Yes.

[Baelish Fingers]

Shut the hell up Italy 2 million is just right don't push it

[Laeuwen]

Shut the hell up Italy 2 million is just right don't push it

This.

I found the magic word;

Conscription

If you also read the USAs OOC posts you will find that it id an alternate USA, socialist leaning and its driving force is the hate of the spread of Fascism.

USA is an observer of WarPac.
Dutch Empire and USA are FPA.

I understand your "issues" but im struggling to see your point.

There was a US before this and they were following IRL US. So, there is no way that everything would change all of a sudden as it is a democracy still, not a totalitarian dictatorship. America, in IRL and IC, would not all of a sudden go into a mobilization out of war, nor could they get 3 million troops into Europe in two weeks.

Stop putting words into the US' mouth.
They did not say 3 million (which is now 2) in 2 weeks.

Still laughing.
They are infamous because of the Japs M8.
I aint no Jap. Ain't no war in my front with ur Marines.

And now you're just bloody annoying.
This is alternate history for a reason.

[New Normandia]

Shut the hell up Italy 2 million is just right don't push it

This.

There was a US before this and they were following IRL US. So, there is no way that everything would change all of a sudden as it is a democracy still, not a totalitarian dictatorship. America, in IRL and IC, would not all of a sudden go into a mobilization out of war, nor could they get 3 million troops into Europe in two weeks.

Stop putting words into the US' mouth.
They did not say 3 million (which is now 2) in 2 weeks.

Still laughing.
They are infamous because of the Japs M8.
I aint no Jap. Ain't no war in my front with ur Marines.

And now you're just bloody annoying.
This is alternate history for a reason.

All of the above.

Posts have been edited, troop numbers and everything else has been halved.
Now can everyone stop moaning at everything and get back to the damn RP.

[Chkalovsk]

Posts have been edited, troop numbers and everything else has been halved.
Now can everyone stop moaning at everything and get back to the damn RP.

Seem's as if the changes were fair enough to me, lets go.

There was a US before this and they were following IRL US. So, there is no way that everything would change all of a sudden as it is a democracy still, not a totalitarian dictatorship. America, in IRL and IC, would not all of a sudden go into a mobilization out of war, nor could they get 3 million troops into Europe in two weeks.

You do realise that USA was kicked thus everything they did and posted is voided and never happened... right?
(Only because the USA's actions were minor and did not effect anything thus they deserved a fresh start).

[The Dutch-Prussian Empire]

1 - Troop Size
> 3 million will be reduced to 2 million

He just said 3 mi. Lauewen.

And Chkalovsk are you seriously letting them have T29's,Pershings, and fvckin' Shermans that weren't in existence yet

GODDAMN.

[Chkalovsk]

He just said 3 mi. Lauewen.

And Chkalovsk are you seriously letting them have T29's,Pershings, and fvckin' Shermans that weren't in existence yet

GODDAMN.

"Research does not mean production and production does not mean deployment" - OP Chkalovsk.

Research; Applying to the research of T-29, Pershings and other tanks
Development; Applying to the research of further Sherman models
Deployment; Actually deploying these models after enough are produced

"Letting him have" implies that the tanks are in active service or are even being fully constructed.
Strict limitations on what the USA can/cant deploy/develop already have been made clear to him.

I just dont understand the problem with the USA researching and putting plans together to build a tank.
Its not like the USA is mass constructing T-29's and Pershings which would be absolutely unfair.
The USA at the most is simply 1-2 years a head of it self, just as the Soviet Union is.

Unless the USA then goes on to deploy these "advanced tank models" (disregarding the Shermans that already exist and the tanks already produced) then yes, that would be unfair and I would not allow it, but all the USA is currently doing is bolstering its research into other ground vehicles, naval ships and aircraft. I understand why this could be perceived as annoying but the USA is not using them as weapons nor is he using them... at all.

My stance remains...

[Chkalovsk]

And I am just going to drop this here too;

Now can everyone stop moaning at everything and get back to the damn RP.

[The Dutch-Prussian Empire]

And I am just going to drop this here too;

Now can everyone stop moaning at everything and get back to the damn RP.

One last thing..

Then why the fck are the Dutch requesting/buying Sherman Easy 8's and Pershings from the frickin' US?!

That was the root of ALL MY COMPLAINING.

[The Belkan States]

So, I think we need to free up all of the American nations other then the US and Hispaniola as they havn't done anything in forever.

[Chkalovsk]

And I am just going to drop this here too;

One last thing..

Then why the fck are the Dutch requesting/buying Sherman Easy 8's and Pershings from the frickin' US?!

That was the root of ALL MY COMPLAINING.

As in when they are COMPLETED in RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT and PRODUCTION they want to buy it

[The Dutch-Prussian Empire]

As in when they are COMPLETED in RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT and PRODUCTION they want to buy it

Fair enough.
(Someone that isn't part of the RP posted in the IC. Don't post yet guys!)

[Chkalovsk]

Yo italy

Just a heads up cos i cant really post today;

My forces are basically about to/pretty much have secured ankara and istanbul and theres a naval fleet due to arrive there

So yaknow

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

Yo italy

Just a heads up cos i cant really post today;

My forces are basically about to/pretty much have secured ankara and istanbul and theres a naval fleet due to arrive there

So yaknow

Okay. So how about I secure the Dardanelles(excluding Istanbul and surroundings) and you secure Bulgaria and Anatolia?

[Chkalovsk]

The nearly 100% updated map that i cant finish because when i highlight certain nations to fill it highlights the whole map;

http://i.imgur.com/L5dGJTx.png

Yo italy

Just a heads up cos i cant really post today;

My forces are basically about to/pretty much have secured ankara and istanbul and theres a naval fleet due to arrive there

So yaknow

Okay. So how about I secure the Dardanelles(excluding Istanbul and surroundings) and you secure Bulgaria and Anatolia?

Yeah.

[The Northern Chinese Provinces]

Hello everyone

Due to some unexpected IRL Events, and a lot of time being used up off of NS, I'm going to have to drop out of this RP. Baelish Fingers, feel free to either disregard my posts or imagine China from where I left off.

Thank you.