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Oliva's Apocalypse (Signup and OOC)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:17 pm
by The Tripartite Republics of Rome
This will be the signup and OOC thread to the IC story 'Oliva's Apocalypse'. This is my first full venture into RP in months, so I will be seeking a Co-OP for this thread. While there will be a definite end to this story, anyone who joins this RP is free to continue it on their own either with the same nations or with new nations. If you would like to donate a map or globe of what Oliva would look like, it is optional (just telegram me for a general description). The actual RP won't start until after Thanksgiving, as there will very likely be people traveling next week.

Rules are pretty much same as the general RP rules on NS, but there are additional provisos for this thread:
1 - OP and CO-OP is GOD. Once we rule on a dispute, the matter is settled NO IFS ANDS OR BUTS
2 - Any OOC disputes among players will be brought here so as not to pollute the IC thread with trivial minutiae.
3 - THIS IS NOT A WAR THREAD so don't come into it expecting to get into a war. If you decide to continue the Oliva story as a conflict thread, then it'll be your own thread. I did not set this up as a war thread nor will I accept it being turned into one!
4 - If for whatever reason I am not online at the time of an OOC issue between players, CO-OP is to be treated as God. I WILL STAND BY THEIR DECISION, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. Rule #1 will apply.
5 - "I understand that people have lives outside of NS, so a certain leeway will be granted. HOWEVER, if you are absent longer than 5 days, then your nation will be assumed to have withdrawn.

There will be a signup form available for interested players to fill out in order to be accepted. This thread is specifically for both the Facebook Nations region and the Intergalactic Federacy region, but anyone who likes Future RP, or is new and simply want to present themselves for consideration as a member of my region, Facebook Nations (you will have to check with them, of course) or the IGF (again, check with them first), or who want to work on their diplomatic skill can join.

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[b]Application Form[/b]
Nation Name:
Region:
Head-of-State:
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat:
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? Y/N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y/N


As well as RPing as my own nation, I will RP as certain Olivans who will be considered 'throw-away characters', meaning that at the conclusion of this thread, their fate will be up to whoever wants to continue the Oliva story. What happens to the Olivan characters I RP as will be up to whoever carries the story forward on their own. I will, of course, fill out the application form to start with.

Link to IC Thread:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=361481

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:22 pm
by The Tripartite Republics of Rome
Application Form
Nation Name: Tripartite Republics of Rome
Region: Altearth
Head-of-State: Gaius Caesar Antonius (Caesar Antony)
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Octavius Marcus Gallienus (Octavian Gallienus)
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? Y/N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y/N

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:41 pm
by The Second Brotherhood of Planets
Requesting status of Co-Op. Can post RP examples if requested.

Application Form
Nation Name: The (Second) Brotherhood of Planets
Region: Facebook nations
Head-of-State: Premier Jill Cheung
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Foreign Minister Golug O'larriti
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:45 pm
by Holy Trek
Application Form
Nation Name: Intergalactic Empire of Holy Trek
Region: Intergalactic Federacy
Head-of-State: His Imperial Majesty Michael I
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Curzon Dax
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? Y/N: N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y/N: Y

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:47 pm
by The Tripartite Republics of Rome
The Second Brotherhood of Planets wrote:Requesting status of Co-Op. Can post RP examples if requested.

Application Form
Nation Name: The (Second) Brotherhood of Planets
Region: Facebook nations
Head-of-State: Premier Jill Cheung
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Foreign Minister Golug O'larriti
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y


I was hoping you would be the Co-Op for the thread :)

ACCEPTED

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:48 pm
by The Tripartite Republics of Rome
Holy Trek wrote:Application Form
Nation Name: Intergalactic Empire of Holy Trek
Region: Intergalactic Federacy
Head-of-State: His Imperial Majesty Michael I
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Curzon Dax
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? Y/N: N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y/N: Y


ACCEPTED

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:46 am
by Odinburgh
Application Form
Nation Name: Galactic Federation of Odinburgh
Region: Intergalactic Federacy
Head-of-State: Chancellor Olaf Borson
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Foreign Minister Frode Karlsen
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:51 am
by New Vulcan Prime
Application Form
Nation Name: Confederacy of New Vulcan Prime
Region: Intergalactic Federacy
Head-of-State: President Spock
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Foreign Minister Tuvok
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:02 am
by Remus Nova
Application Form
Nation Name: United Holy Empire of Remus Nova
Region: Intergalactic Federacy
Head-of-State: Emperor Tertius Coiedius Lucianus I
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Emperor's Legate Sergio Pius
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:44 pm
by The Second Brotherhood of Planets
I suppose I have authority now.

All applications before/above this post are Accepted. I am attempting to contact fellow Facebook nations members as I did get positive feedback during my last PSA. Unfortunately, it seems that no one else from my region has responded so far.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:44 pm
by Estruia
Application Form
Nation Name: The Most Serene and Holy Empire of Estruia
Region: Facebook Nations
Head-of-State: Empress Maria Theresa XVIII
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Her Majesty's Imperial Voice Abroad, Lord Alfred Hofmeister
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? Y/N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y/N

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:21 pm
by The Second Brotherhood of Planets
Estruia wrote:Application Form
Nation Name: The Most Serene and Holy Empire of Estruia
Region: Facebook Nations
Head-of-State: Empress Maria Theresa XVIII
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Her Majesty's Imperial Voice Abroad, Lord Alfred Hofmeister
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? Y/N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y/N


Accepted.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:32 pm
by Great Houses of Xie
Application Form
Nation Name: Great Houses of Xie
Region: Facebook nations
Head-of-State: Governor General Xie Shanyuang
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: officially the Office of the Governor General; in actuality, likely the Colony Fleet Admiral/Colonial Council that establishes contact
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:53 pm
by The Second Brotherhood of Planets
Great Houses of Xie wrote:Application Form
Nation Name: Great Houses of Xie
Region: Facebook nations
Head-of-State: Governor General Xie Shanyuang
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: officially the Office of the Governor General; in actuality, likely the Colony Fleet Admiral/Colonial Council that establishes contact
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y


Accepted.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:03 pm
by Imperial Esplanade
Application Form
Nation Name: Imperial Esplanade
Region: Facebook Nations
Head-of-State: Queen Emerite Langlois
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Secretary of State Relations Claire McMahon
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? Y/N No
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y/N Yes

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:48 am
by The Second Brotherhood of Planets
Imperial Esplanade wrote:Application Form
Nation Name: Imperial Esplanade
Region: Facebook Nations
Head-of-State: Queen Emerite Langlois
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Secretary of State Relations Claire McMahon
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? Y/N No
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y/N Yes


Accepted.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:38 am
by Alexzonya
Application Form
Nation Name: The Galactic Republic of Alexzonya (GRA)
Region: Facebook Nations
Head-of-State: President Harriet Mason
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Chief Diplomatic Officer Lia'Ka Otani
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? No.
If not will you establish commercial ties? Probably.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:51 pm
by Agua del Feugo
As AdF is rather decentralized since the exodus and most of the tribes are scattered.
The clan that will be dealing with these even more foreign outlanders is as follows:

Application Form
Nation Name: The White Raven Clan of the Imperium, Peoples, and Holy Synod of Agua del Feugo
Region: Facebook Nations
Head-of-State: Mac NIHMU Morriga aka The Nihmu, Magister Morriga
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: NIHMU Morgan aka The Tannist, Magister Morgan
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? No.
If not will you establish commercial ties? Undetermined.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:38 pm
by The Second Brotherhood of Planets
Alexzonya wrote:Application Form
Nation Name: The Galactic Republic of Alexzonya (GRA)
Region: Facebook Nations
Head-of-State: President Harriet Mason
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Chief Diplomatic Officer Lia'Ka Otani
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? No.
If not will you establish commercial ties? Probably.


Accepted.

Agua del Feugo wrote:As AdF is rather decentralized since the exodus and most of the tribes are scattered.
The clan that will be dealing with these even more foreign outlanders is as follows:

Application Form
Nation Name: The White Raven Clan of the Imperium, Peoples, and Holy Synod of Agua del Feugo
Region: Facebook Nations
Head-of-State: Mac NIHMU Morriga aka The Nihmu, Magister Morriga
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: NIHMU Morgan aka The Tannist, Magister Morgan
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? No.
If not will you establish commercial ties? Undetermined.


Accepted.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:08 pm
by The Second Brotherhood of Planets
OOC Nitpick. Here's my problem with the premise:

Three days ago, they witnessed a supernova 5 light-years from the Olivan star-system which for several days brightened their nights brighter than their closest of 12 moons in the Oliva planetary system (the heart of the Republic) and could even be seen during the day as a dim "second sun". No other effects were witnessed and the astronomers simply cataloged the nova in their database and continued their observations. What they didn't yet know was that the star system in which the nova happened contained five planets. The supernova had knocked one of the planets, a Class-D rocky world with no atmosphere, into a new trajectory that would bring it dangerously close to Oliva with a 99.99% possibility of collision. Oliva had few contacts with other nations and independent worlds and with no large ships of its own, it was feared that the end of their civilization was at hand. All the nervous Olivans could do was watch, wait, and pray as the bolide came closer. Now with only three days remaining until impact, Olivans could begin to see the rocky world in their skies. From their perspective, it was the size of Earth's moon as observed from the ground.


If the supernova occurred 5-lightyears away, then no matter how fast the planet's been knocked out of orbit it will not be traveling faster than the speed of light, or c, and therefore it would take 5 years for the planet to get there.

A better plan should be as follows:

Since the planet hurling towards Oliva is a Class-D rocky world, it is most likely the size of your typical terrestrial planet.

Such a planet is quite large, and impact with Oliva is certain to kill anyone on the surface and, at best, render the planet uninhabitable. At worst, Oliva will cease to exist.

Even with 5 years to evacuate, a nation with relatively few large starships will find it difficult to get everyone off the world in time, or at the very least get them off world and avoid having the nation plunge into an economic or social crisis. Especially if there are billions of people on Olivia. The reason, of course, is that even refugee-citizens are hard to process: you have to find room for them; you need to find a way for them to get jobs and to restore their lives to an extent since they've been suddenly uprooted from their previous, doomed home.

Even with epic building times, a nation without large starships in its inventory needs to A. Develop and B. Build them. Both of these takes time, time that usually consists of more than 5 years unless you're jury-rigging stuff and 'winging' safety concerns.

Therefore, the RP is exciting, but its premise is difficult to suspend disbelief. The planet that's hurling towards Oliva has no FTL drive, no means of traveling at speeds greater than c. Even in the case of Praxis in Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country, it wasn't Praxis' remnants that were hurling at the speed of light, it was the residual energy and "subspace shockwave" from the explosion that was traveling at c or FTL speeds.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:41 pm
by SquareDisc City
I observed the same issue. The plotline may be made less of an astrophysics fail with some adjustments though.

Supernovae can boot material out at up to 10% of the speed of light, but even if our rogue planet got swept up at maximum speed, the supernova's light would still have been visible 45 years ago. An inconsequential issue, I will grant.

Even at a considerably slower speed, say 1000 km/s, our rogue planet is still screaming along far in excess of orbital speeds, so it isn't implausible that a planet inattentive towards its skies would only notice it a few days before impact. At such a speed, three days out it's a couple of AU away. Depending on size and composition it may appear as a bright planet but will not look like the Moon. At a greater distance it might only be visible through telescopes - and it's almost sure to be discovered telescopically. Questions of mass, speed, and distance will have a bearing on what if any actions can be taken.

Nonetheless,

Application Form
Nation Name: The Confederation of the United Pokemon Types.
Region: Facebook Nations.
Head-of-State: Effectively none.
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Fernando Blaziken.
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? Shall we say yes? Seems like that would create some interesting RP.

An explanation is due as to why the UPT has no proper head of state. In normal circumstances the Preskomos - the national legislative body - elect the Regent. The Regent may call an early re-election of half the members of the Preskomos, otherwise this election happens every few years. The problem now is that after the previous Regent (the King's 9001) was removed, the Preskomos has failed to elect a successor. A few in the Preskomos are happy with this state of affairs and continue to deliberately block any new Regent from being chosen, but it's fair to say the general public are a bit annoyed and embarrassed about the whole business, the Preskomos already having a reputation for being somewhat dysfunctional. With elections upcoming, it's hoped that soon the nation will at last find a new leader.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:36 pm
by The Second Brotherhood of Planets
SquareDisc City wrote:I observed the same issue. The plotline may be made less of an astrophysics fail with some adjustments though.

Supernovae can boot material out at up to 10% of the speed of light, but even if our rogue planet got swept up at maximum speed, the supernova's light would still have been visible 45 years ago. An inconsequential issue, I will grant.

Even at a considerably slower speed, say 1000 km/s, our rogue planet is still screaming along far in excess of orbital speeds, so it isn't implausible that a planet inattentive towards its skies would only notice it a few days before impact. At such a speed, three days out it's a couple of AU away. Depending on size and composition it may appear as a bright planet but will not look like the Moon. At a greater distance it might only be visible through telescopes - and it's almost sure to be discovered telescopically. Questions of mass, speed, and distance will have a bearing on what if any actions can be taken.

Nonetheless,

Application Form
Nation Name: The Confederation of the United Pokemon Types.
Region: Facebook Nations.
Head-of-State: Effectively none.
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Fernando Blaziken.
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? Shall we say yes? Seems like that would create some interesting RP.

An explanation is due as to why the UPT has no proper head of state. In normal circumstances the Preskomos - the national legislative body - elect the Regent. The Regent may call an early re-election of half the members of the Preskomos, otherwise this election happens every few years. The problem now is that after the previous Regent (the King's 9001) was removed, the Preskomos has failed to elect a successor. A few in the Preskomos are happy with this state of affairs and continue to deliberately block any new Regent from being chosen, but it's fair to say the general public are a bit annoyed and embarrassed about the whole business, the Preskomos already having a reputation for being somewhat dysfunctional. With elections upcoming, it's hoped that soon the nation will at last find a new leader.


Your insights are appreciated!

Accepted.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:06 am
by The Tripartite Republics of Rome
Odinburgh wrote:Application Form
Nation Name: Galactic Federation of Odinburgh
Region: Intergalactic Federacy
Head-of-State: Chancellor Olaf Borson
Foreign Minister or Chief Diplomat: Foreign Minister Frode Karlsen
Do you have commercial interests on Oliva? N
If N will you establish commercial ties? Y


ACCEPTED

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:08 am
by The Tripartite Republics of Rome
The Second Brotherhood of Planets wrote:OOC Nitpick. Here's my problem with the premise:

Three days ago, they witnessed a supernova 5 light-years from the Olivan star-system which for several days brightened their nights brighter than their closest of 12 moons in the Oliva planetary system (the heart of the Republic) and could even be seen during the day as a dim "second sun". No other effects were witnessed and the astronomers simply cataloged the nova in their database and continued their observations. What they didn't yet know was that the star system in which the nova happened contained five planets. The supernova had knocked one of the planets, a Class-D rocky world with no atmosphere, into a new trajectory that would bring it dangerously close to Oliva with a 99.99% possibility of collision. Oliva had few contacts with other nations and independent worlds and with no large ships of its own, it was feared that the end of their civilization was at hand. All the nervous Olivans could do was watch, wait, and pray as the bolide came closer. Now with only three days remaining until impact, Olivans could begin to see the rocky world in their skies. From their perspective, it was the size of Earth's moon as observed from the ground.


If the supernova occurred 5-lightyears away, then no matter how fast the planet's been knocked out of orbit it will not be traveling faster than the speed of light, or c, and therefore it would take 5 years for the planet to get there.

A better plan should be as follows:

Since the planet hurling towards Oliva is a Class-D rocky world, it is most likely the size of your typical terrestrial planet.

Such a planet is quite large, and impact with Oliva is certain to kill anyone on the surface and, at best, render the planet uninhabitable. At worst, Oliva will cease to exist.

Even with 5 years to evacuate, a nation with relatively few large starships will find it difficult to get everyone off the world in time, or at the very least get them off world and avoid having the nation plunge into an economic or social crisis. Especially if there are billions of people on Olivia. The reason, of course, is that even refugee-citizens are hard to process: you have to find room for them; you need to find a way for them to get jobs and to restore their lives to an extent since they've been suddenly uprooted from their previous, doomed home.

Even with epic building times, a nation without large starships in its inventory needs to A. Develop and B. Build them. Both of these takes time, time that usually consists of more than 5 years unless you're jury-rigging stuff and 'winging' safety concerns.

Therefore, the RP is exciting, but its premise is difficult to suspend disbelief. The planet that's hurling towards Oliva has no FTL drive, no means of traveling at speeds greater than c. Even in the case of Praxis in Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country, it wasn't Praxis' remnants that were hurling at the speed of light, it was the residual energy and "subspace shockwave" from the explosion that was traveling at c or FTL speeds.


Any suggestions you may have are welcome. If need be, I can ret-con my previous post.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:28 am
by The Tripartite Republics of Rome
I just realized something that I should've remembered. In Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Khan explained to Chekov and Terrell how Ceti Alpha V went from a lush Earth-like world to a desert. Ceti Alpha VI had exploded, if I'm not mistaken. The resulting shockwave would've shifted the orbit of Ceti Alpha V and caused all kinds of havoc, of course I could be wrong as I don't watch as much Star Trek as others on here do. Perhaps, instead of a supernova, one of the planets in the system could play the same part as Ceti Alpha VI exploding and sending the rocky world out of its home star-system.

Would this be a more plausible situation to happen? If so, I can ret-con my first post and make the necessary changes.