W.P.T. declares war against Banbardi. (WWII era Tech.)

[Banbardi]

Mitheldalondian Third Fleet:

Aboard the fleet flagship, the MNS Gwaihir an officer was gesturing to the tactical map while he spoke to the fleet commander, Admiral Daeron. "According to a recent message from the Western Pacific navy, the main strength of the Banbardian fleet is concentrated here. Our scout planes have just confirmed this."

"Very well," said Admiral Daeron. "We'll begin our attack with a wave of dive bombers to soften them up, then follow up with torpedo bombers. Signal the fleet to move into combat formation and have the carriers start launching their aircraft. We'll coordinate it so that all the aircraft are hitting at once."

The orders were issued, and the fleet began moving into position. The battleship group maneuvered to position itself between the fleet carriers and the enemy warships. The light carriers began moving inward towards the core group, opening the distance between themselves and the fringes of the fleet, where any surface action was most likely to occur. Meanwhile, squadron after squadron of aircraft lifted off the flight decks of the Third Fleet's sixteen aircraft carriers. 120 fighters took to the sky, providing top cover for the 240 dive bombers being sent to attack the enemy fleet. In reality, the fighters and dive bombers were the same model of aircraft; the only difference was that the "bombers" were currently loaded with a pair of 1000 pound bombs and one 500 pound bomb each, while the fighters each carried a pair of drop tanks full of fuel. This meant that once their bombs were away, the dive bombers would be able to join the air-to-air combat over the enemy fleet.

The ominous drone of hundreds of piston engines filled the air as the massive formation of aircraft soared over the fleet on their way to meet the enemy.

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• 4 fleet carriers:
  • 60 fighter/bombers
  • 36 torpedo bombers
• 12 light carriers:
  • 24 fighter/bombers
  • 12 torpedo bombers
• 6 fast battleships
• 16 battlecruisers
• 24 light cruisers
• 20 AA cruisers
• 45 destroyers
• 35 AA destroyers

Total number of aircraft is 528 fighter/bombers, 288 torpedo bombers, and about 228 scout fighters (from the cruisers and battleships).

Also, this is only about a fifth of my full Navy. In case anyone was wondering.

HA theyve flown right into the trap FIRE THE FLAK AND AA
Me-262s scream down on the bombers from the clouds and wuickly out manever their propeller counterparts because of jet engines. The sky turns black once more with flak, The ships ram into the sea mines scattered around the channel. A full scale air and sea battle erupts. The last of the V-1 explosive missiles have been fired at the 16 Carriers. Hoping for a large munitions explosion.

[USHALLNOTPASS]

Mitheldalondian Third Fleet:

Aboard the fleet flagship, the MNS Gwaihir an officer was gesturing to the tactical map while he spoke to the fleet commander, Admiral Daeron. "According to a recent message from the Western Pacific navy, the main strength of the Banbardian fleet is concentrated here. Our scout planes have just confirmed this."

"Very well," said Admiral Daeron. "We'll begin our attack with a wave of dive bombers to soften them up, then follow up with torpedo bombers. Signal the fleet to move into combat formation and have the carriers start launching their aircraft. We'll coordinate it so that all the aircraft are hitting at once."

The orders were issued, and the fleet began moving into position. The battleship group maneuvered to position itself between the fleet carriers and the enemy warships. The light carriers began moving inward towards the core group, opening the distance between themselves and the fringes of the fleet, where any surface action was most likely to occur. Meanwhile, squadron after squadron of aircraft lifted off the flight decks of the Third Fleet's sixteen aircraft carriers. 120 fighters took to the sky, providing top cover for the 240 dive bombers being sent to attack the enemy fleet. In reality, the fighters and dive bombers were the same model of aircraft; the only difference was that the "bombers" were currently loaded with a pair of 1000 pound bombs and one 500 pound bomb each, while the fighters each carried a pair of drop tanks full of fuel. This meant that once their bombs were away, the dive bombers would be able to join the air-to-air combat over the enemy fleet.

The ominous drone of hundreds of piston engines filled the air as the massive formation of aircraft soared over the fleet on their way to meet the enemy.

(Image)

• 4 fleet carriers:
  • 60 fighter/bombers
  • 36 torpedo bombers
• 12 light carriers:
  • 24 fighter/bombers
  • 12 torpedo bombers
• 6 fast battleships
• 16 battlecruisers
• 24 light cruisers
• 20 AA cruisers
• 45 destroyers
• 35 AA destroyers

Total number of aircraft is 528 fighter/bombers, 288 torpedo bombers, and about 228 scout fighters (from the cruisers and battleships).

Also, this is only about a fifth of my full Navy. In case anyone was wondering.

HA theyve flown right into the trap FIRE THE FLAK AND AA
Me-262s scream down on the bombers from the clouds and wuickly out manever their propeller counterparts because of jet engines. The sky turns black once more with flak, The ships ram into the sea mines scattered around the channel. A full scale air and sea battle erupts. The last of the V-1 explosive missiles have been fired at the 16 Carriers. Hoping for a large munitions explosion.

OOC: You just made Michael Bay proud, m8. Mitheladond, you dont rush them at once, you send in around 3/4 of your force to distract, then you flank with the remaining 1/4

IC: USHALLNOTPASS will send in a small regiment of volunteers to set up hospitals and refueling stations for the Anti-Banbardi Coalition. The best USHALLNOTPASSian advisors will be sent to help the admirals.

[Western Pacific Territories]

OOC: Play at dat game huh? Fite me irl bro.
IC:
"Our ally has begun the fight." "Excellent. We'll arrive to the battle and assist our ally."

[Banbardi]

HA theyve flown right into the trap FIRE THE FLAK AND AA
Me-262s scream down on the bombers from the clouds and wuickly out manever their propeller counterparts because of jet engines. The sky turns black once more with flak, The ships ram into the sea mines scattered around the channel. A full scale air and sea battle erupts. The last of the V-1 explosive missiles have been fired at the 16 Carriers. Hoping for a large munitions explosion.

OOC: You just made Michael Bay proud, m8

IC: USHALLNOTPASS will send in a small regiment of volunteers to set up hospitals and refueling stations for the Anti-Banbardi Coalition.

Okay......
IC- Fire the v-2
Sir you already expended the arsenal
WHAT
we only made so many
MAKE MORE NOW
jeez fine, itll take some time
Well can you cannibalize any other propellants
Youre not talking about the first missle made right, the one in the presidential museum, thats soild gold?
Yes?
You sir are an idot, just use the old prototype space program rockets. We can slap on some serious amounts of tnt and hope to god it doesnt explode on launch

[Mitheldalond]

Over the Banbardian fleet:

A few thousand feet about the dive bombers, the eyes of their fighter escort scanned the sky for enemy fighters. Suddenly, Squadron Commander Thorin's radio crackled to life with one of his pilot's voices. "Commander! Enemy jets at 12 o'clock high!"

Commander Thorin looked up just in time to see an Me 262 break through the clouds above and directly in front of him. Reacting instinctively, he pulled his fighter's nose up and jammed his finger down on the trigger. The .50 cal Gatling gun in the nose of his plane roared to life with a BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT as it spat out bullets at 6000 rounds per minute. The enemy pilots had never encountered a weapon like this before. Thorin fired off a half-second burst and just had time to see the jet burst into flames before it shot past him. A loud BOOM an instant later signified that one of the jet's engines had exploded.

"Bandits high!" shouted Commander Thorin. "Get down after them boys! Bombers scatter, you've got jets on top of you!" The dive bombers immediately broke into evasive maneuvers while the fighters dived down after the attacking jets. The Mitheldalondian P-49 was excellent in a dive, and the pilots would have a few seconds to shoot at the jets before they were out of range. And a few seconds was all it would take for the P-49s' Gatling guns to shred the enemy jets.

The surviving jets hit the bomber formation. Unfortunately for them, their speed worked to their disadvantage here. The jet pilots only had a split second to line up a shot on the wildly jinking dive bombers before they shot past them, and as soon as they were past, several of the dive bombers gave chase with the same deadly Gatling gun that the fighters carried. The rest continued towards their target warships.

Hot on the tail of a 262, Commander Thorin gave the order for the bombers to begin their attack. "Copy that Gold Leader. Alpha squadron beginning our attack run now." replied the leader of one of the bomber squadrons.

"Watch out for that flack Alpha squad," advised commander Thorin as a flaming bomber spiraled past his canopy.

Scores of dive bombers plummeted out of the sky towards the enemy ships below, dodging flack and enemy fighters before each dropping 2500 pounds of bombs onto the Banbardian warships. With such a heavy bomb load, a single dive bomber could cause serious or even cripplig damage to any ship, and there were multiple dive bombers attacking each ship.

A safe 350km away, Admiral Daeron stood monitoring the progress of the battle, waiting to hear the results of the bombers' attacks.

The enemy V-1 rockets, meant to attack stationary targets (such as cities), were completely incapable of hitting warships moving in irregular patterns at a speed of around 30 knots. They sailed harmlessly off into the distance, and the Mitheldalondian fleet never even realized they were there.

[Banbardi]

How can equipment in WW2 fire a .50 cal gattling gun that fires at 6000 rounds a minute?

[Mitheldalond]

How can equipment in WW2 fire a .50 cal gattling gun that fires at 6000 rounds a minute?

I'm so very glad you asked.

First off, the Gatling gun was invented in around the 1860s, though IRL it fell out use with the invention of the machine gun. So the technology was nothing new in WWII, though it wasn't really used much at all.

My fighters have their engine mounted behind the cockpit in a manner similar to the P-39 and P-63. The nose of the aircraft holds the six-barreled .50 cal Gatling gun and 3000 rounds of ammunition. The Gatling gun is connected to the propellor shaft by a set of reduction gears that regulate it to spin at 1000rpm. When the trigger is pulled, the gears engage the propellor shaft which starts spinning the gun. 1000 revolutions per minute means that each barrel will fire 1000 rounds every minute, and since there are six barrels that equates to 6000 rounds per minute. It would sound a bit like this.

[Banbardi]

How can equipment in WW2 fire a .50 cal gattling gun that fires at 6000 rounds a minute?

I'm so very glad you asked.

First off, the Gatling gun was invented in around the 1860s, though IRL it fell out use with the invention of the machine gun. So the technology was nothing new in WWII, though it wasn't really used much at all.

My fighters have their engine mounted behind the cockpit in a manner similar to the P-39 and P-63. The nose of the aircraft holds the six-barreled .50 cal Gatling gun and 3000 rounds of ammunition. The Gatling gun is connected to the propellor shaft by a set of reduction gears that regulate it to spin at 1000rpm. When the trigger is pulled, the gears engage the propellor shaft which starts spinning the gun. 1000 revolutions per minute means that each barrel will fire 1000 rounds every minute, and since there are six barrels that equates to 6000 rounds per minute. It would sound a bit like this.

No technology in WW2 would have the power to cool that many barrels firing that fast.

[Western Pacific Territories]

I'm so very glad you asked.

First off, the Gatling gun was invented in around the 1860s, though IRL it fell out use with the invention of the machine gun. So the technology was nothing new in WWII, though it wasn't really used much at all.

My fighters have their engine mounted behind the cockpit in a manner similar to the P-39 and P-63. The nose of the aircraft holds the six-barreled .50 cal Gatling gun and 3000 rounds of ammunition. The Gatling gun is connected to the propellor shaft by a set of reduction gears that regulate it to spin at 1000rpm. When the trigger is pulled, the gears engage the propellor shaft which starts spinning the gun. 1000 revolutions per minute means that each barrel will fire 1000 rounds every minute, and since there are six barrels that equates to 6000 rounds per minute. It would sound a bit like this.

No technology in WW2 would have the power to cool that many barrels firing that fast.

The British had a method of cooling down their machine guns by having the entire barrel surrounded by water. To make that work in a plane, they could just install a cold water tank somewhere in the plane that is connected to the water surrounding the barrel.

[Mitheldalond]

No technology in WW2 would have the power to cool that many barrels firing that fast.

The British had a method of cooling down their machine guns by having the entire barrel surrounded by water. To make that work in a plane, they could just install a cold water tank somewhere in the plane that is connected to the water surrounding the barrel.

Unnessesary. The spinning of the barrels means that they're moving through the air at considerable speed, which cools them off. Also, the WWII German MG 42 machine gun could fire 1500 rounds per minute in bursts several seconds long from a single barrel with no cooling whatsoever.

If you tried to fire all 3000 rounds of ammo in one long 30 second burst, the gun probably would overheat, but it's perfectly fine firing in bursts of a few seconds each, which is what you'd encounter in a dogfight anyway. A couple seconds is all it takes for the target to either move out of your line of fire or be killed.

[Banbardi]

The British had a method of cooling down their machine guns by having the entire barrel surrounded by water. To make that work in a plane, they could just install a cold water tank somewhere in the plane that is connected to the water surrounding the barrel.

Unnessesary. The spinning of the barrels means that they're moving through the air at considerable speed, which cools them off. Also, the WWII German MG 42 machine gun could fire 1500 rounds per minute in bursts several seconds long from a single barrel with no cooling whatsoever.

If you tried to fire all 3000 rounds of ammo in one long 30 second burst, the gun probably would overheat, but it's perfectly fine firing in bursts of a few seconds each, which is what you'd encounter in a dogfight anyway. A couple seconds is all it takes for the target to either move out of your line of fire or be killed.

oh ok then

[Mitheldalond]

OOC: the system isn't without drawbacks. For instance, as the gun requires the engine to be running to fire, any damage to the engine will also effect the aircraft's weapons. And since the engine is in the rear of the plane, it is highly vulnerable to attacks from above to the rear, which is where most ambush/attacks would likely be coming from. Naturally, there is some armor over the engine intended to deflect bullets, but it won't do much against the 30mm cannons on an Me 262. And the jets are still massively faster than my fighters.

IC:
350km off the WPT coast,
aboard the aircraft carrier MNS Gwaihir:

"Those jets are going to be a problem," said Admiral Daeron. "We need to take them out quickly before they can cause too much damage to our bomber forces. With the threat of enemy jets eliminated, we'll be able to establish air superiority in the area and carry out bombing missions with relative impunity. It'll also clear the way for our heavy bombers flying from Mitheldalond.

"The safest and easiest way to take out these jets is to catch them on the ground, or returning to base to refuel and rearm. Now, the WPT have informed us of the locations several air bases known to be operating enemy jets." He indicated locations on many of the islands closest to the main island where the WPT army was currently making its last stand. "These are just the ones they know about," the Admiral continued. "There will inevitably be more on the more distant islands that are as yet unknown to us, but we'll worry about that later.

"For now we'll concentrate our efforts on eliminating the known enemy jet bases. First of all, the jets currently engaging our air forces will be running out of fuel and ammo and returning to their bases soon. I intend to have our fighters there waiting for them. The jets will be easy pickings; they'll be low on fuel and mostly out of ammo. In other words, they will be in no condition to fight an air battle over their own bases; they'll either be shot down trying to fight or land, or run out of fuel and fall out of the sky.

"At the same time, our fighter-bombers will be bombing, rocketing, and strafing any jets on the ground, and the runways in general. Any jets that try to take off will be gunned down.

"Alright gentlemen," the Admiral said, wrapping the meeting up. "Distribute the orders to the fleet, and inform me the minute we find out how many ships our dive bombers managed to sink."

Across the fleet, 120 fighter-bombers took to the air, headed for all of the known jet bases. Each aircraft carried a pair of 1000 pound bombs, a 500 pound bomb, and 10 HVAR rockets. They flew low to the ground as they approached their targets in order to hide from hostile radar and observation aircraft, in order to ensure that their attack was a surprise and the enemy didn't have time to launch any jets still at the bases.

[Western Pacific Territories]

OOC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEumkV3DPRc
IC:
"Alright, so, heres the plan. Allied fighters are heading to enemy airfields to destroy any jets that are landing or on the ground. If they disable the airfields, They will either lose all their air power, or it is heavily reduced. Either way, as long as they are not massacred, the enemy will lose most of it's air power here." said the captain. He was looking at a map, along with two other men. "All of our ships will move into the fight. They haven't expected us, so we'll flank around and confuse them." said the captain.

[Banbardi]

Our forces have nearly engulfed the island sir, problem is that they have friends, with many benefits. I would suggest posting guards and active aircraft on all THQs, we will not lose when we put so much into this. Should they not surrender within, say, 24 hours we will kill 1/10th of their population every day until the give out. I want bombers to drop their bodies on their capital, spattering on the sidewalks and transmitting disease.

[Western Pacific Territories]

OOC: I'm literally in Stalins position right now. A few times, the Germans were within firing range of Stalin's HQ, but he didn't surrender. No, we'll continue fighting, thank you.

[Mitheldalond]

Our forces have nearly engulfed the island sir, problem is that they have friends, with many benefits. I would suggest posting guards and active aircraft on all THQs, we will not lose when we put so much into this. Should they not surrender within, say, 24 hours we will kill 1/10th of their population every day until the give out. I want bombers to drop their bodies on their capital, spattering on the sidewalks and transmitting disease.

OOC: just a heads up, if you actually do that, I will stop holding back and attack Banbardi itself. I will put so many bombers over your cities that you won't even be able to see the sun. I will put so many ships in the sea that there won't be enough room for fish to swim between them. I will put so many troops on your shore that your population will double.

Also, I need some report on the effectiveness of my attacks on your fleet. ie. how many ships sunk or damaged (and how many there were to begin with), how many aircraft shot down out of how many, etc.

[Mitheldalond]

OOC: I'm literally in Stalins position right now. A few times, the Germans were within firing range of Stalin's HQ, but he didn't surrender. No, we'll continue fighting, thank you.

More like France really. The Russians were never overrun or outnumbered as badly as you seem to be. The French Resistance kept fighting throughout the war, which is kind of the position you're in at this point.

[Western Pacific Territories]

OOC: I'm literally in Stalins position right now. A few times, the Germans were within firing range of Stalin's HQ, but he didn't surrender. No, we'll continue fighting, thank you.

More like France really. The Russians were never overrun or outnumbered as badly as you seem to be. The French Resistance kept fighting throughout the war, which is kind of the position you're in at this point.

OOC: While we're at it, can my 16-year old king travel to your nation and hide out? The king of Denmark hid in the UK during WWII.

[Mitheldalond]

More like France really. The Russians were never overrun or outnumbered as badly as you seem to be. The French Resistance kept fighting throughout the war, which is kind of the position you're in at this point.

OOC: While we're at it, can my 16-year old king travel to your nation and hide out? The king of Denmark hid in the UK during WWII.

Sure, we'll take as many refugees as can get out of your nation.

[Western Pacific Territories]

Our forces have nearly engulfed the island sir, problem is that they have friends, with many benefits. I would suggest posting guards and active aircraft on all THQs, we will not lose when we put so much into this. Should they not surrender within, say, 24 hours we will kill 1/10th of their population every day until the give out. I want bombers to drop their bodies on their capital, spattering on the sidewalks and transmitting disease.

OOC: just a heads up, if you actually do that, I will stop holding back and attack Banbardi itself. I will put so many bombers over your cities that you won't even be able to see the sun. I will put so many ships in the sea that there won't be enough room for fish to swim between them. I will put so many troops on your shore that your population will double.

Also, I need some report on the effectiveness of my attacks on your fleet. ie. how many ships sunk or damaged (and how many there were to begin with), how many aircraft shot down out of how many, etc.

hahaha... Are you kidding me? Just do it already! He has used mustard gas on my troops, V2's to destroy my cities, and this thing called Agent Blood which I suspect is godmodding at it's finest. Do it already. Blot out the sun.

[Mitheldalond]

Multiple airbases across Mitheldalond:

The roar of piston engines filled the air as 200 B-29 Superfortresses taxied down the runway, picking up speed before finally lifting into the air. Twenty minutes later, another 200 bombers landed at the recently vacated airbases; transferred from more distant airfields to the ones closest to the targets for arming and refueling. 40 minutes after they arrived, these aircraft too took to the sky.

This process repeated three more times, until there were 5 waves of 200 B-29s each in the air, with each wave an hour behind the proceeding wave. 1000 heavy bombers, all heading to Banbardi.

[New havannah]

We can bring our troops into war as we had diplomatic problems with this nation before. With your permission of course.

[Western Pacific Territories]

I need a application.
Example:

Nation Name: Nation Name.
Leader: Leader.
Military: Military.
Population: Pop.

[Armellenia]

OOC: Just wanted to stop by and was interested, but I'm literally struck by the horrible RPing skills that the Bambardi guy possesses. I could poke literally dozens of holes in Bambardi's reasoning, but I won't, because OP's word is final. Other than that, I would have probably joined this RP.

[Western Pacific Territories]

OOC: Just wanted to stop by and was interested, but I'm literally struck by the horrible RPing skills that the Bambardi guy possesses. I could poke literally dozens of holes in Bambardi's reasoning, but I won't, because OP's word is final. Other than that, I would have probably joined this RP.

Sorry. I have repeatedly told him that his is godmodding and the such, but I can't get rid of him because this was made back when he was needed. Think I'll close this thread if he doesn't stop.