War against Cardulan. OOC

by **Opplandia** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:45 pm

The Doom Legions wrote:
Dogs of War wrote:I now have re-installed Stalker thanks to the constant reference to it by Ancient Humans. I have the feeling that I will spend a lot less time on nation states for a while.

That's alright, nobody seems to care about thir RP anymore...

yea well, had a similar thought with this RP. Im not sure what you guys say, but Id vote to close it.

by **Dogs of War** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:46 am

It is not that I am no longer interested but if we like to continue we should do it now.

by **The Doom Legions** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:52 am

Dogs of War wrote:It is not that I am no longer interested but if we like to continue we should do it now.

It's hard to continue the RP when 80% of the participants nolonger seem to care.

by **Dogs of War** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:55 am

by **The Doom Legions** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:58 am

Dogs of War wrote:TG?

I guess I'll TG the others and ask if they still want in.

by **Opplandia** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:35 pm

My revised ORBAT

by **Aeiouia** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:33 pm

I already posted my ORBAT, but, I would just like to confirm that I am still in this RP by posting it again:

by **Dogs of War** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:28 pm

The Aspari Syndicate: Naval Forces (D and C)

New Frenco Empire: Naval Forces (F and G)

Aeiouia: Naval Forces (P and S)

Opplandia: Naval Forces (S and T)

Trevor Phillip Enterprises: Naval Forces (I)

Paginista: Naval Forces (N,T, H and C), Ground Forces (2, 11, 12 and 9)

Doom Legions: Naval Forces (C and D), Ground Forces (3 and 4)

Larthinia: Naval Forces (F,G and I), Ground Forces (6)

Republic of Vectors: Naval Forces (I)

Semolia

Jackonia: Naval Forces (R)

Nova Marshal: Naval Forces (I, N and A), Ground Forces (1, 8, 10)

New Babylonia

Gardevoirland: Naval Forces (O)

Novaya Equestria

by **Dogs of War** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:35 am

No one was kicked out you are still in.

by **Trevor Phillip Enterprises** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:19 am

Look, I don't think I can do this war, just don't see myself being able to care that much any more. So to ensure that I end my involvement as quickly as I can, I offer you the my ORBAT!

This is all that both my nation and I in real life would be willing to invest in this war at this point. Someone can just kill him so I can get out.

by **Gardevoirland** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:04 am

Time to drop my ORBAT!
For Cardulan!....bruh!

by **Dogs of War** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:34 pm

Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:Look, I don't think I can do this war, just don't see myself being able to care that much any more. So to ensure that I end my involvement as quickly as I can, I offer you the my ORBAT!

1 x "Dinghy" Rigid-Hull Inflatable Boat (manned by a guy with sticky bombs)

This is all that both my nation and I in real life would be willing to invest in this war at this point. Someone can just kill him so I can get out.

by **The Doom Legions** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:37 pm

I think the thread is ready to be continued. I'll continue the thread tomorrow around 15:00 Central European time.
Should give you guys some time to point out anything I might have missed or ask some final questions.

by **Opplandia** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:38 pm

alright man, good to know. I´ll make sure to be ready.

by **New Frenco Empire** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:46 pm

Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:Look, I don't think I can do this war, just don't see myself being able to care that much any more. So to ensure that I end my involvement as quickly as I can, I offer you the my ORBAT!

1 x "Dinghy" Rigid-Hull Inflatable Boat (manned by a guy with sticky bombs)

This is all that both my nation and I in real life would be willing to invest in this war at this point. Someone can just kill him so I can get out.

I offered you fighter jets and power armor! >:(

by **The Doom Legions** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:52 am

Restarting the thread now.

by **The Germanian states** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:30 am

As long as I stay under the radar I should be safe from an Invasion from TDL.

by **Novaya Equestria** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:41 pm

You should realize I actually care about this RP. Also, count me in. And hey, I actually waited for this RP to be open again.

by **The Doom Legions** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:59 pm

Novaya Equestria wrote:You should realize I actually care about this RP. Also, count me in. And hey, I actually waited for this RP to be open again.

Novaya Equestrian Tenth Army:
XXVIII Corps
*15th Infantry Division
*26th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS
*25th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS (Harmony)
*20th Panzergrenadier Division
*7th Infantry Division
*3rd Panzergrenadier Division
XXIX Corps
*1st Mountain Division
*12th Panzer Division
*1st Luftwaffe Field Division
*2nd Luftwaffe Field Division
*9th Luftwaffe Parachute Division
*2nd Naval Infantry Division
XXX Corps
*1st Marine Division
*2nd Marine Division
*9th Volksgrenadier Division
*21st Panzer Division
*3rd Panzer Division
*14th Luftwaffe Infantry Division

Novaya Equestrian Naval Forces:
Novaya Equestrian Ninth Fleet
Novaya Equestrian Tenth Fleet

And who will you support? Cardulan or The Doom Legions? Or you gonna fight both?

by **Novaya Equestria** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:03 pm

The Doom Legions wrote:
Novaya Equestria wrote:You should realize I actually care about this RP. Also, count me in. And hey, I actually waited for this RP to be open again.

Novaya Equestrian Tenth Army:
XXVIII Corps
*15th Infantry Division
*26th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS
*25th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS (Harmony)
*20th Panzergrenadier Division
*7th Infantry Division
*3rd Panzergrenadier Division
XXIX Corps
*1st Mountain Division
*12th Panzer Division
*1st Luftwaffe Field Division
*2nd Luftwaffe Field Division
*9th Luftwaffe Parachute Division
*2nd Naval Infantry Division
XXX Corps
*1st Marine Division
*2nd Marine Division
*9th Volksgrenadier Division
*21st Panzer Division
*3rd Panzer Division
*14th Luftwaffe Infantry Division

Novaya Equestrian Naval Forces:
Novaya Equestrian Ninth Fleet
Novaya Equestrian Tenth Fleet

And who will you support? Cardulan or The Doom Legions? Or you gonna fight both?

Novaya Equestria supports Cardulan.

by **Dogs of War** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:06 pm

Novaya Equestria wrote:
The Doom Legions wrote:And who will you support? Cardulan or The Doom Legions? Or you gonna fight both?

Novaya Equestria supports Cardulan.

I put you in the list, both ooc and ic.

by **The GAmeTopians** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:10 am

Unless someone is against it, I'm going to join this RP, helping Cardulan.

by **Vissegaard** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:21 am

DoW, why you did not count my ORBAT in?

Anyway, we're back and alive!

by **Cardulan** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:16 pm

First of all, very nice posts so far. It looks like we are going to have a very nice RP in the future. Posts are well written and very nice to read. Right now, however, we have a serious problem with role playing but I am very sure that we will solve this. I also wish to add the disclaimer that I am in a very bad mood while I write this. This has nothing to do with the current RP which still brightens up my day but with circumstances outside the game. In case I sound particularly unfair or rude this is not because of you guys. Please don’t take it personal. I think we all get along very good so far and I don’t want to spoil the RP for anybody. I think I am the least experienced in war RPs. This is my first real war and it might as well be possible that I got it all wrong and am mistaken. In that case I just would like a friendly explanation. Well, than let’s get down to business. Despite me asking several times I have not had a satisfactory answer where the enemy soldiers in the north came from. This leaves me no other choice than to rule that Paginista has a shared border with me. This means that there is nothing to stop me from counter invading them. A force as massive as that is by now out of food, out of hope and totally out of fuel. Please take care of minimal logistics. At least be able to draw a line between your soldiers and a centre of supply. I would like to RP the problems with the refugees clogging roads and railways in the south, the harbours being under fire and so on. I am not going to deliberately lose the war by being the only one to RP problems or causalities. I don’t mind god modding on a platoon scale. If you want to write up a nice story killing a few dozen National Gendarms, feel free to do so. What you can not do is, you can not declare that you have captured a city with millions of inhabitants, an unharmed garrison and thousands of CPF volunteers and police men in it. If you want to take a city, fight for them. I don’t know if that is a problem with me or sometimes I mean there is a massive bombardment in the Doom Legions and all they do is close the gates and since they have gun turrets on every bridge, refinery and traffic light in the nation they suffer no damage at all while my cities are taken without a single causality? I have serious doubt that you actually want to continue this RP in that way. My replies will be very simple. I take your cities without suffering losses while I will shoot down each and every bullet directed at my troops. I have to play with the same standards you seem appropriate for my enemies. I know that you love your magic and laser swords and unicorns and wizards but you should recognise that when ever you use a magic stealth coating the other player will simply have a magic radar. It does not matter if you call it nanite, tiberium or what ever. I think you know exactly what I mean. I would like to ask you to keep your weapons within the physical possible. I have tried not to press too hard on that issue because in the beginning, I thought that it is very obvious that you won’t like me to capture your cities without a fight while you are surprised when your weapons don’t do any damage. Since this does not seem the case I think I have to be more outspoken about it. If you want to attack Cardulan from the north, feel free to do so, just give me a short explanation how you did get there. I think it is obvious that “The hexes are not claimed” is not a valid explanation. I keep sinking the fleets at my coast, by now not a single ship should be afloat there anymore but so far I have not even get a reply to that. I think it is the fifth time or so I bombard the ships. Again, I would role play the shortage of ammunition and the problems in supplying the coastal batteries with heavy Shipwreck style missiles but since they all have been ignored that would not make too much sense, or would it? Don’t get me wrong here guys, the causalities RPed so far are a good start I think however that crossing heavily mined (I did declared several times that I did, so including the use of FASCAMS) while faced with guerrillas is a very difficult and lengthy undertaking. Even more so if you take into consideration that the troops stuck in the mountains don’t have any means of getting fresh supplies. I don’t see any reason to stop the RP again, we can continue at the places were there are no difficulties like the southern front and what not. This however brings me to the next point I would like to point out. Sometimes the game moves a bit too fast. I don’t think it is very good style to simply ignore the players who are absent and push past them. I know that this is difficult but we should find a way that they are either played by one of the players who is present or that we wait till they posted before we move towards the next episode. To sum things up a bit, I think the following should be taken into consideration. I think we should role play events of such strategic importance as the capture of a city or a mountain fortress and we should stop simply neglecting damage to our side if damage occurs. If we are not sure what a certain weapon does we might ask in the ooc thread about it. I for example don’t think that the chemical fire which seems to be supposed to burn through ship’s hulls is stopped by a door. This might seem a very powerful and advanced weapon but it was used after rocket tanks which could destroy villages and other typical video game weapons came up. We should probably also take care of supply lines to our forces. All what I have said is not to be taken personal and it is by no means the problem of only one side and of course it is all up to debate, just tell me in case I am wrong. As a final word, the primary role of helicopters is to destroy tanks, they don’t fly around slowly and wait to be shot down. Normally they fire their missiles at designated targets way out of a tank’s reach. As I mentioned at the start, I am not in the best shape right now but I don’t want the game to stop. Just keep on fighting and tell me your thoughts about my worries in the OOC thread.

by **Opplandia** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:31 pm

well, I think that I can understand alot of the stuff that you have just pointed out there. Cities being taken in a heartbeat and naval fleets that dont vanish while being under heavy fire for days and weeks; well, that stuff is quite strange. maybe we are able to get off that stuff now that someone has pointed a finger on the problems here.

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