Project Warfighter: "Tier-One" RP Group, OPEN

[Blayk]

Do I put my Application in this thread or the archive?

[Vacif]

Do I put my Application in this thread or the archive?

This thread.

[ISAF-Usea]

*Absolutely sighs* Cruxa. We don't have enough of these guys to throw more into our line of fire. So lemme push the enemies along. Plus, this isn't a free-roam RP where you have access to limitless enemies and can make them pop outta nowhere. And push the story along by yourself.
If this happens again, I'll have to remove you.

[ISAF-Usea]

Am the only one that really wants the DNA for the better eyesight, hearing and speed? And not just cuteness?

And no Donn, you aren't.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

She's fine, it just grazed her leg. But, in the future of Lucifer, I see a big ol' bitchslap comin' for him

Why? What was he supposed to do, bullets were flying, can't really play Doctor Phil
Lucifer: "So how does that make you feel?"
Soldier: "I GOT A BULLET IN MY FUCKING LEG!"
Lucifer: "Uh-hu, I understand, but how does that make you feel exactly?"
Soldier: "IN PAIN!"
Lucifer: "See, now we are getting somewhere, would you say this is an emotional pain or is it deeper, is this a spiritual pain?"
Soldier: "Well... now that you mention it, my father was real abusive when I was a boy..."
Lucifer: "See, now we are having a break through."
*trooper starts crying right before a sniper blows his head off*

No Doctor Phils in a combat zone, that is a bad idea! XD

New Rules:

-The Medics are NOT Field therapists. All mental health patches are to be applied after the battle.
-For those of you with psychiatric, therapeutic, or psychology majors, DO NOT attempt to psychoanalyze Namenian soldiers. This is for your safety.
--Even if you think Vladimir is a big bully who's mother never loved him
--ESPECIALLY if you think this
-Please do not tell rookies to ask Robin to "Tell me how you feel". The last one was found in fetal position in the corner, muttering strange noises.

Also, I'll go get my Morale Booster out.

Time to catch up!

[North Arkana]

I'm getting the feeling that Riri in Atlas would end up like Riri from Moscow....
rip Kotori

Nah, Akiyama will be the traumatized one this time. She knows about the rumors concerning the SSS project Riri was in, but Kotori is going to confirm it for her.

[Esgonia]

I'm getting the feeling that Riri in Atlas would end up like Riri from Moscow....
rip Kotori

Nah, Akiyama will be the traumatized one this time. She knows about the rumors concerning the SSS project Riri was in, but Kotori is going to confirm it for her.

Yay! More mental anguish and psychological stress for Kotori!

[Azenyanistan]

Gonna laugh and cry at same time when azen spec ops join the bar and grill

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Aaaaand shotguns

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Aaaaand shotguns

"Out of the way, buddy!" A voice shouted, and Valentine turned around to see Vladimir running towards the bar at full sprint, a dark camo vest flapping on his chest as he ran. Valentine backed up, and watched as Vladimir body slammed the unlocked swinging door, almost ripping it open with the force, and turned to face the crowd. Everyone was silent, staring at Kayora, who had the jukebox on and trying to dance with people. "Oh son of a BITCH. No one told me it was the Hurtis."

Something tells me Vlad is going to rig-up a Christmas-tree style indicator warning him if the next shooting-incident is Hurti-related.

Reads: "Bring a tank."

[Vacif]

@Firestorm,
I don't think that's how bullets work.
(Basically two of the operator teams strapped grenades to spare AK mags, and chucked them at the terrorists. The ensuing explosions apparently caused the magazines to detonate the rounds inside, and shoot them everywhere.)

[Holy Empire of Avalon]

@Firestorm,
I don't think that's how bullets work.
(Basically two of the operator teams strapped grenades to spare AK mags, and chucked them at the terrorists. The ensuing explosions apparently caused the magazines to detonate the rounds inside, and shoot them everywhere.)

It was not the mag (mag meaning holder of bullets that is loaded into a firearm) it was just the bullets. While I have never tried it (no intelligent lifeform would) I would assume the hot combustion of the explosion would cook off the rounds near instantaneously and thus cause the roughly fifteen or so we duct taped to it to also go off at the same time or very close to the same time.

[Monfrox]

@Firestorm,
I don't think that's how bullets work.
(Basically two of the operator teams strapped grenades to spare AK mags, and chucked them at the terrorists. The ensuing explosions apparently caused the magazines to detonate the rounds inside, and shoot them everywhere.)

A bullet may be dangerous on it's own, but it requires the closed in barrel of a firearm to project it at a potent velocity. In the open, the gas dissipates far to quickly to effectively propel the round at terminal velocity where in it would kill/wound anyone. That is, of course, the best-case scenario not taking into effect that the shrapnel from the grenades would just tear the cartridges to shreds and render them useless.

[Holy Empire of Avalon]

@Firestorm,
I don't think that's how bullets work.
(Basically two of the operator teams strapped grenades to spare AK mags, and chucked them at the terrorists. The ensuing explosions apparently caused the magazines to detonate the rounds inside, and shoot them everywhere.)

A bullet may be dangerous on it's own, but it requires the closed in barrel of a firearm to project it at a potent velocity. In the open, the gas dissipates far to quickly to effectively propel the round at terminal velocity where in it would kill/wound anyone. That is, of course, the best-case scenario not taking into effect that the shrapnel from the grenades would just tear the cartridges to shreds and render them useless.

The rifling of a barrel increases range and accuracy, it does not really effect lethality other than being out of range of the shot, unrifled muskets killed just as well as rifled when the bullets hit their target.

The second may be true, but even if that took place it would then make shrapnel and projectiles out of the bullets and thus either way add to the lethality (albeit danger if you are anywhere near it) of this shoddy weapon.

[North Arkana]

@Firestorm,
I don't think that's how bullets work.
(Basically two of the operator teams strapped grenades to spare AK mags, and chucked them at the terrorists. The ensuing explosions apparently caused the magazines to detonate the rounds inside, and shoot them everywhere.)

It was not the mag (mag meaning holder of bullets that is loaded into a firearm) it was just the bullets. While I have never tried it (no intelligent lifeform would) I would assume the hot combustion of the explosion would cook off the rounds near instantaneously and thus cause the roughly fifteen or so we duct taped to it to also go off at the same time or very close to the same time.

Definitely not how bullets work. You're just adding extra fragments to a weapon designed to make lots of fragments. Wasting ammo basically.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Or, you know, you wasted rounds for nothing.

For one part, why would you strap two PERFECTLY GOOD grenades into two PERFECTLY GOOD mags? You'd kill more with one mag and one grenade sepesately. Plus it also adds weight that you don't need, and when did you strap the mags together?

Consider this:

All items are facing one way. Literally. So if they cook off, they go in one direction: forward. Mostly.
The blast from the grenade hits the mag first (which is very sturdy by the way), so you'd basically fragment the rounds first.
The bullets would have to go through the mag first, which would slow the rounds down, blunt them, and other issues.
And that's IF the rounds cook off.

And we're not talking about rifled barrels. We're talking about barrels. The gases in a barrel from the round propel the round forward. It's not necessarily the single charge (shorter barrel equals low velocity) as it is the gases produced. That's why there's recoil.

Aaaaand shotguns

"Out of the way, buddy!" A voice shouted, and Valentine turned around to see Vladimir running towards the bar at full sprint, a dark camo vest flapping on his chest as he ran. Valentine backed up, and watched as Vladimir body slammed the unlocked swinging door, almost ripping it open with the force, and turned to face the crowd. Everyone was silent, staring at Kayora, who had the jukebox on and trying to dance with people. "Oh son of a BITCH. No one told me it was the Hurtis."

Something tells me Vlad is going to rig-up a Christmas-tree style indicator warning him if the next shooting-incident is Hurti-related.

Reads: "Bring a tank."

"Caution: Hurti drunk"

"Son of a bitch, where's the automatic Morale Booster?"

"Caution: All Hurtis drunk"

"Alright, call in the air strike boys."

[Vancon]

A bullet may be dangerous on it's own, but it requires the closed in barrel of a firearm to project it at a potent velocity. In the open, the gas dissipates far to quickly to effectively propel the round at terminal velocity where in it would kill/wound anyone. That is, of course, the best-case scenario not taking into effect that the shrapnel from the grenades would just tear the cartridges to shreds and render them useless.

The rifling of a barrel increases range and accuracy, it does not really effect lethality other than being out of range of the shot, unrifled muskets killed just as well as rifled when the bullets hit their target.

The second may be true, but even if that took place it would then make shrapnel and projectiles out of the bullets and thus either way add to the lethality (albeit danger if you are anywhere near it) of this shoddy weapon.

Bullets are much different these days, and so is medical science bub.

It does affect the lethality since the impact is spinning and in turn the flesh and innards are churned up like butter.


Chill, DEN, chill. You are right though.

[Monfrox]

A bullet may be dangerous on it's own, but it requires the closed in barrel of a firearm to project it at a potent velocity. In the open, the gas dissipates far to quickly to effectively propel the round at terminal velocity where in it would kill/wound anyone. That is, of course, the best-case scenario not taking into effect that the shrapnel from the grenades would just tear the cartridges to shreds and render them useless.

The rifling of a barrel increases range and accuracy, it does not really effect lethality other than being out of range of the shot, unrifled muskets killed just as well as rifled when the bullets hit their target.

The second may be true, but even if that took place it would then make shrapnel and projectiles out of the bullets and thus either way add to the lethality (albeit danger if you are anywhere near it) of this shoddy weapon.

The rifling of the barrel does increase range and accuracy, but the existence of the barrel itself is what makes the bullet lethal. When you fire a round, the gunpowder ignites and turns to a gas, wherein the gas propels the bullet out of the barrel because that's the only way the gas can go. When the bullet is fired without a barrel, the gas dissipates as soon as the bullet leaves the casing, and is therefor more inaccurate and less lethal.

You might as well have thrown the grenades by themselves.

[Holy Empire of Avalon]

Or, you know, you wasted rounds for nothing.

For one part, why would you strap two PERFECTLY GOOD grenades into two PERFECTLY GOOD mags? You'd kill more with one mag and one grenade sepesately. Plus it also adds weight that you don't need, and when did you strap the mags together?

Consider this:

All items are facing one way. Literally. So if they cook off, they go in one direction: forward. Mostly.
The blast from the grenade hits the mag first (which is very sturdy by the way), so you'd basically fragment the rounds first.
The bullets would have to go through the mag first, which would slow the rounds down, blunt them, and other issues.
And that's IF the rounds cook off.

And we're not talking about rifled barrels. We're talking about barrels. The gases in a barrel from the round propel the round forward. It's not necessarily the single charge (shorter barrel equals low velocity) as it is the gases produced. That's why there's recoil.

Something tells me Vlad is going to rig-up a Christmas-tree style indicator warning him if the next shooting-incident is Hurti-related.

Reads: "Bring a tank."

"Caution: Hurti drunk"

"Son of a bitch, where's the automatic Morale Booster?"

"Caution: All Hurtis drunk"

"Alright, call in the air strike boys."

The AKs we captured from the dead were not in good enough shape to be used, we are low on ammo. I did not waste anything, but we did not have guns to fire the bullets, save for one good AK model that Baal franken'ed from the others. The only working weapon we had using ammunition that could easily be looted was the Dragnov model (7.62 x 54mmR). We removed the bullets fromt he mags and duct taped them to the grenade. Bullets will cook off at high temperatures, and while I do nto know the exact temperature a pineapple grenade (I assume these guys we're fighting are using older tech to the more common military surplus) I know it was hot enough to cause 2nd and 3rd degree burns if you got too close to one going off, assuming the shrapnel did not kill you first, so I am going to assume it is hot enough to cook off bullets strapped to it. Therefore I think it was an effective idea, big boom, it was fight or die - we are low on ammo; so if you got any better ideas I wouldn't mind hearing them. In the present though, I am going to do anything and everything possible to keep my guys alive, and if that means seeing what a grenade with bullets strapped to it does, then so be it.

[Vancon]

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

"Hey guys, I'm low on ammo, I found guns, and there's bad guys. What do we do?"

"Grab ductape and unload these clips!"

"Sir, shouldn't we just use the guns?"

"No time, soldier! Get duct taping! We need this for DRAMA!"

"But sir, we have guns and gre-"

"DUCTTAPE OUR AMMO SOLDIER"

[Monfrox]

The AKs we captured from the dead were not in good enough shape to be used, we are low on ammo. I did not waste anything, but we did not have guns to fire the bullets, save for one good AK model that Baal franken'ed from the others. The only working weapon we had using ammunition that could easily be looted was the Dragnov model (7.62 x 54mmR). We removed the bullets fromt he mags and duct taped them to the grenade. Bullets will cook off at high temperatures, and while I do nto know the exact temperature a pineapple grenade (I assume these guys we're fighting are using older tech to the more common military surplus) I know it was hot enough to cause 2nd and 3rd degree burns if you got too close to one going off, assuming the shrapnel did not kill you first, so I am going to assume it is hot enough to cook off bullets strapped to it. Therefore I think it was an effective idea, big boom, it was fight or die - we are low on ammo; so if you got any better ideas I wouldn't mind hearing them. In the present though, I am going to do anything and everything possible to keep my guys alive, and if that means seeing what a grenade with bullets strapped to it does, then so be it.

Okay, lemme give you a run down on how this happens.

1. Pull the pin
2. Throw the grenade
3. Grenade detonates
4. Shrapnel from the grenade tears through the shell casings and blows out the gun powder
5. The bullets do not fire because the gunpowder hasn't been ignited yet
6. The gas from the grenades then ignite the powder
7. The bullets still do not fire as the gas blows out of the holes in the shell casings because most of the powder is now outside the cartridge

[North Arkana]

You know what's good at absorbing heat? Metal.
You know what casing are made of? Metal.
Do you know that rounds require sustained heat to cook off? Guess not.
And did you just say you found an AK in too bad of shape to function? That thing better be in pieces- scratch that, have a bent barr- scratch that, dust, for you to claim that.

[Monfrox]

You know what's good at absorbing heat? Metal.
You know what casing are made of? Metal.
Do you know that rounds require sustained heat to cook off? Guess not.
And did you just say you found an AK in too bad of shape to function? That thing better be in pieces- scratch that, have a bent barr- scratch that, dust, for you to claim that.

>implying that AK's can't operate with a little dust in them

[The Templar High Council]

You know what's good at absorbing heat? Metal.
You know what casing are made of? Metal.
Do you know that rounds require sustained heat to cook off? Guess not.
And did you just say you found an AK in too bad of shape to function? That thing better be in pieces- scratch that, have a bent barr- scratch that, dust, for you to claim that.

>implying that AK's can't operate with a little dust in them

Can an AK operate when it has been turned into dust?