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Postby Heco » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:03 am

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Heco wrote:The Imperial empire of Heco officially declares war on: the ASBL for attacking our allies.
You will face the wrath of the empire even it this means going to our doom we will aid our allies for we do not abandon them.
Millions of lives will be lost a unprovoked attack on our allies.
Millions of ours and yours. You will get what coming.
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You maybe want to learn to read the name of the person I'm attacking?
If you're tired then go to bed like I'm about to.

All rested up now.
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Postby Ukranas » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:23 am

We condemn the warlike acts towards Steakrim, and very vocally voice our support as well as stridently demand that these attacks cease.

If you do not cease the attacks, we will be forced to voice even more strident demands.
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Postby Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:32 am

Ukranas wrote:We condemn the warlike acts towards Heco, and very vocally voice our support as well as stridently demand that these attacks cease.

If you do not cease the attacks, we will be forced to voice even more strident demands.

OOC:
The attacks?
As in my attacks?
As in my attacks on Steakrim?


I thought that you were threatening me because you were allied with Heco, I guess that you're just one of the guys who comes along and threatens people with violence to try to prevent them from being violent.

Statsa wrote:Please read the stickies. You guys probably will need them a TON if you have more extremely one sided RP's. No offense though. Your war posts are excellent!

One-sided? All we were doing was mobilising shit and sabre-rattling since every time that I threatened to use force, people changed the topic.
(case and point: I mobilise fleets& ask Irav to reconsider their course of actions, Irav starts accusing us of spying).
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Postby Ukranas » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:44 am

(OOC: Oops. Corrected.)
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Postby Heco » Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:03 pm

The Hecovian military mobilizes and people are called up to join the ranks.
Factories are put into over drive as the pump out guns planes gear tanks and more things for the Military.
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Postby Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms » Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:24 am

Ukranas wrote:We condemn the warlike acts towards Steakrim, and very vocally voice our support as well as stridently demand that these attacks cease.

If you do not cease the attacks, we will be forced to voice even more strident demands.

OOC:
The attack (singular) is already over. Did you miss the part about it only lasting ~30 seconds?
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Postby Heco » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:11 pm

Assorted sucrose-based lifeforms wrote:
Ukranas wrote:We condemn the warlike acts towards Steakrim, and very vocally voice our support as well as stridently demand that these attacks cease.

If you do not cease the attacks, we will be forced to voice even more strident demands.

The attack (singular) is already over. Did you miss the part about it only lasting ~30 seconds?

No way you could have identified his ships.
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Postby Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:59 pm

OOC:
Heco wrote:
Assorted sucrose-based lifeforms wrote:The attack (singular) is already over. Did you miss the part about it only lasting ~30 seconds?

No way you could have identified his ships.

Erm, we were an allied fleet before I betrayed him without warning?
We were sailing in formation together, how could I not have identified his ships?
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Postby Heco » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:14 pm

Assorted sucrose-based lifeforms wrote:OOC:
Heco wrote:No way you could have identified his ships.

Erm, we were an allied fleet before I betrayed him without warning?
We were sailing in formation together, how could I not have identified his ships?

Talking about you.
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Postby Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:27 pm

OOC:
Heco wrote:
Assorted sucrose-based lifeforms wrote:OOC:

Erm, we were an allied fleet before I betrayed him without warning?
We were sailing in formation together, how could I not have identified his ships?

Talking about you.

As in, "There's no way that Ukranas could have identified the ASBL [my] ships"?
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Postby Heco » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:52 pm

Assorted sucrose-based lifeforms wrote:OOC:
Heco wrote:Talking about you.

As in, "There's no way that Ukranas could have identified the ASBL [my] ships"?

Yes if they were submerged.
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Postby Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:04 am

[These images do not count as a revelation of the wherabouts of my fleets; IC you will still have to find them]

So this is how things were beforehand. (full-size, zoomable image here)
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Here's the same picture overlayed with the maximum ranges of the AA and AShMs carried. (full-size, zoomable image here)
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Here's the same picture overlayed with more realistic maximum ranges. (full-size, zoomable image here)
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Irav wrote:The Iravian fleet was now almost in Hecovian waters, where it would be much easier for them to enter one of the Hecovian ports. A few crew members spotted several enemy ships on the radar. Who where comming closer by the minute.

If you are 'almost in Heconian waters', the you've travelled to about here, (full-size image).
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Last time I checked, I was asking you to turn around and head for home, or else I would stop you from entering Heconian waters.
Of course, if you had told me that you had kept sailing, even without a formal rejection of my demand, I could have at least 'picked you up on radar' or something, long before your fleet got anywhere near that close to mine.
But by ignoring me and just jumping your fleet hundreds of kilometres past the point that I would engage, you've basically circumvented my air-interceptors and air patrol through the magic of teleportation.

Irav wrote:Commander, I see enemy ships on our radars. They are most likely to be either Steakrim or ASBL ships. We are almost in Hecovian waters, where we will be save. What will we do commander? One of the crewmembers asked.

I'd just like to point out that entering Heconian waters =/= safety.

Irav wrote:What we will do? We will enter Hecovian waters of course. Any attack from them would make it easy for Irav to portrait them as the bad guys. That is why will enter Hecovian waters and claim we are doing a training mission with the Hecovian navy. Easy enough, isn't it?

You were already on a non-aggressive mission to reinforce your ally, why do you feel the need to justify it as a training mission?

Irav wrote:The Iravian fleet now crossed the Hecovian border, while the aircraft were put on high alert. And ready to take-off in less then 15 minutes.
So, wait. Lemmie get this straight.
You teleported past my first line of defence (my air patrol/ carrier-launched interceptors), straight into the middle of my second line of defence (my fleets' AShMs), and then you teleported straight into 'safe' waters (I'm taking this to mean 'outside of AShM range, and within Heco's air-defences).
So you jumped twice, like this (full-size image)
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Heco wrote:Yes if they were submerged.

But, they weren't submerged? It's a predominantly surface fleet.
I posted a link to my list of fleets, twice, so that you could see exactly which ships were part of which fleet.
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Postby Heco » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:03 pm

OOC: Its HECOVIAN.
You guys would have a hard time getting into my eastern waters as my navy patrols them 24/7 and my airforce as well.
We are always watching so how are you guys getting into my waters without getting engaged?
What about the fisherman who would raise the alarm?
What about my satellites?

OOC: I know your saying you near but that's just pointing it out.

A Hecovian fleet moves out to escort the Iravian ships to their port.
Any attack will be seen as a Major Defense breach and Nuclear Weapons will be fired.
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Postby Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:21 pm

OOC:
Heco wrote:OOC: Its HECOVIAN.

How about you calm down there, sweetheart, considering that you've never told me that you prefer 'Hecovian' to 'Heconian' before now and you have never even once used the term 'Hecovian' in your factbook.

You guys would have a hard time getting into my eastern waters as my navy patrols them 24/7 and my airforce as well.

Really, your territorial waters would extend only ~22km from your shores at low tide.
I have been exceedingly generous in drawing your waters over 600km from your shores. (Because there are hostilities involved, I'm counting the area which you can defend from your land as your territorial waters).
Both of my fleets are over 700km from your shores.
Therefore, I am by no means within your waters, and if you are patrolling within your territorial claim (~22km) then you shouldn't have been able use radar to detect my fleets which are over 700km away.
We are always watching so how are you guys getting into my waters without getting engaged?

>Still not in your waters
>Still beyond radar range
What about the fisherman who would raise the alarm?

What are the chances of fishermen finding me, over 700km from shore, in the middle of the ocean?
What about my satellites?

Due to what I read here I would consider satellites to be more of a 'track-once-found' resource than a 'search-to-find' one.
Hence my open-ocean Maritime Patrol aircraft actually found the Iravian fleet, then relayed the location to my satellites so that they could monitor the fleet.

OOC: I know your saying you near but that's just pointing it out.

sentence fragment: consider revising

A Hecovian fleet moves out to escort the Iravian ships to their port.
Any attack will be seen as a Major Defense breach and Nuclear Weapons will be fired.

How big a fleet? What kinds of ships are in it?
Also, you still don't know where my fleets are, considering that I'm about 100km beyond the reach of the average shore radar.
Also also, you do realise that you can't just cut around my fleet to meet up with the Iravian one?

Assorted sucrose-based lifeforms wrote:
IC, Carrier-bourne AS012 aircraft in Maritime Patrol configuration are now patrolling just outside of Heconvian shore radar range, (approx. 450-600km from the shore).Each AS012MP will is accompanied by one AS015 with 'Eve' station, as well as one AS012 in Naval Attack-E configuration.
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Postby Heco » Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:28 am

Assorted sucrose-based lifeforms wrote:OOC:
Heco wrote:OOC: Its HECOVIAN.

How about you calm down there, sweetheart, considering that you've never told me that you prefer 'Hecovian' to 'Heconian' before now and you have never even once used the term 'Hecovian' in your factbook.

You guys would have a hard time getting into my eastern waters as my navy patrols them 24/7 and my airforce as well.

Really, your territorial waters would extend only ~22km from your shores at low tide.
I have been exceedingly generous in drawing your waters over 600km from your shores. (Because there are hostilities involved, I'm counting the area which you can defend from your land as your territorial waters).
Both of my fleets are over 700km from your shores.
Therefore, I am by no means within your waters, and if you are patrolling within your territorial claim (~22km) then you shouldn't have been able use radar to detect my fleets which are over 700km away.
We are always watching so how are you guys getting into my waters without getting engaged?

>Still not in your waters
>Still beyond radar range
What about the fisherman who would raise the alarm?

What are the chances of fishermen finding me, over 700km from shore, in the middle of the ocean?
What about my satellites?

Due to what I read here I would consider satellites to be more of a 'track-once-found' resource than a 'search-to-find' one.
Hence my open-ocean Maritime Patrol aircraft actually found the Iravian fleet, then relayed the location to my satellites so that they could monitor the fleet.

OOC: I know your saying you near but that's just pointing it out.

sentence fragment: consider revising

A Hecovian fleet moves out to escort the Iravian ships to their port.
Any attack will be seen as a Major Defense breach and Nuclear Weapons will be fired.

How big a fleet? What kinds of ships are in it?
Also, you still don't know where my fleets are, considering that I'm about 100km beyond the reach of the average shore radar.
Also also, you do realise that you can't just cut around my fleet to meet up with the Iravian one?

Uhhh Every heard of Flanking?????
My fleet is in my fact book.
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Postby Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms » Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:26 am

OOC:
Heco wrote:Uhhh Every heard of Flanking?????

'Every' heard of english?How exactly are you going to get past me when I can move my fleets to intercept you/ can send attack aircraft out to intercept you?
You can't just sail around me when my forces can easily move to block your path.

My fleet is in my fact book.

Not your entire navy :palm: ; you said that you sent out a fleet of ships, I'm asking which ships are in that fleet.

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With the nullification of GA-#40 'The Landmine Convention', SBAF AS008 'Atlas' Tactical Airlift Aircraft have begun transporting IFF ocean mines to the SBAF fleets, to be deployed by the ships in future.
As well as this, AS011 'Kinloss' Maritime Patrol Aircraft have begun laying IFF ocean mines in two chains; one in-between the Iravian Fleet and the SBAF fleets, and one along the edge of the Heconian waters.
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Postby Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:50 pm

OOC: Heco threatened nukes, this thread is stalled, and it's my 666th post, therefore nukes.

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Good evening, I'm Ann Annette and welcome to the news at 6. In the headlines thisevening; ASBL fleet commander P. Brittle "rather baffled" by the complete inactivity of an Iravian fleet east of the Hecovian mainland. Also in the news tonight; another drone crash on the western coast has local residents worried about the future of pizza delivery. Whilst economy growth has been at a standstill for the last two months, the Central Bank remains confident that we can reach the highest economy rating.

The main story tonight; Maritime Patrols and satellites tasked with observing the Iravian fleet have reported that, since it was asked to turn around and head for home nearly two weeks ago, the Iravian fleet continued to cruise towards Hecovian waters for roughly two days before becoming inactive.
Five days after the Iravian fleet ceased cruising and began drifting in the open ocean, Emperor Shaledon himself declared that the Hecovian Navy would send a fleet of undisclosed size and composition to meet its Iravian allies and escourt them to port on the eastern Hecovian coast.
This event roughly coincided with the passing of General Assembly Resolution № 304, which repealed General Assembly Resolution № 40; The Landmine Convention. As such, the SBAF began mining the Iravian fleet's expected path, as well as the edge of the Hecovian waters.

North Atlantic Fleet commander P. Brittle stated in an exclusive interview with the channel that "the mines are not expected to do considerable damage to the hostile fleets" as "any modern navy is capable of clearing even the most dense minefield given enough time". Instead, he said that the mines are "being deployed primarily to cause the enemy fleets to become bogged down in clearing a path for themselves".

In addition to mining the waters between Heco and the Iravian fleet, a SBAF Terrestrial Forces North Atlantic Carrier Group also deployed an additional carrier-launched maritime patrol, in an attempt to locate the Hecovian fleet.
The MoD reports that heavily-armed attack aircraft of the North and South Atlantic Fleets are at a high state of readiness, but the location, size and composition of the Hecovian fleet are unknown at this time.

[Heco, like I said, you can't just say "I depwoy da fleet"; you have to say how many ships of each type are in the fleet]

One of the most shocking events in the crisis thus far was the announcement by the Hecovian Emperor himself that any and all acts of aggression towards either the Hecovian or Iravian fleets would lead to the launching of nuclear inter-continental ballistic missiles against ASBL territory.
We can only assume that these weapons will be directed towards ASBL population centres in order to cause catastrophic civilian casualties.

Though SBAF military doctrine dictates that the use of tactical nuclear warheads is acceptable in warfare, it states that such warheads may only be used against military targets, and in situations where absolutely minimal civilian casualties will be incurred.
It is worth noting that specific examples given in the SBAF military doctrine include the use of tactical nuclear weapons, of under one megatonne yield, against enemy fleets more than 200 km from shore.
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