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Holy Marsh wrote:Aldar has been gone for two weeks. We can go ahead and do something. AFAIC, Endless Wartime can start up at any time. My army will be away.

GD is as ready as can be for this whole thing to start.

My thread with Kraven (The Defiant Sky) is already up and running: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=315668

This will set Havensky up as a neutral party in the end. But first! Fireworks

Havensky wrote:My thread with Kraven (The Defiant Sky) is already up and running: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=315668

This will set Havensky up as a neutral party in the end. But first! Fireworks

Too bad a lot of us can't join, because we haven't been accepted --- Or even reviewed.

Ralkovian Grand Island wrote:

The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:Yes. However, we've had nothing from Kraven, Aldar, Azura, Ralk, Parth...and others?

I know that posts need to be of good quality, but people are sort of waiting to get started, so it might be worth moving it along a bit. Obviously, RL must take priority, so no pressure if something bad is going on in RL.

Parth, Scand, and I are currently discussing amongst ourselves what we're doing. We might be entirely separate from Einsatz, though we might participate at a later date. Currently we're still in discussion.

As you have very similar aims, it would make sense to coordinate our actions.
Come on...although the Haven's an anarchistic state that doesn't know the meaning of the word 'Security,' it doesn't smell that bad.

The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:

Ralkovian Grand Island wrote:
Parth, Scand, and I are currently discussing amongst ourselves what we're doing. We might be entirely separate from Einsatz, though we might participate at a later date. Currently we're still in discussion.

As you have very similar aims, it would make sense to coordinate our actions.
Come on...although the Haven's an anarchistic state that doesn't know the meaning of the word 'Security,' it doesn't smell that bad.

Well, while the Eye of Sauron that is Omnibellum is focused on Sondria, I might as well throw my lot in. The Security Syndicate recently formed a mega-PMC Conglomerate, Terminal Solutions Incorporated. (viewtopic.php?f=6&t=316480) It's effectively an alliance between the Syndicate and three other mercenary companies. I'm sure that Terminal Solutions would be more than willing to assist the Haven, or any other parties in this conflict for that matter. For what we believe is a very modest fee.

Is this now a dead fish, or are we going to do something with this thread with or without Aldar?

The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:Is this now a dead fish, or are we going to do something with this thread with or without Aldar?

TBH we need an actual war RP going otherwise this will be stillborn.

GD is willing to take part, but the longer the action is delayed the less keen the region is in taking part.

I wouldn't claim to be anywhere near as skillful as Aldar, but we could change the main driving force from Aldarminian occupation to the strange 'unification' movement going on in the Haven driving it to further and further wars.

Einsatz Coalition should invade Sondria.

Then we can all watch it fail miserably.

The Nuclear Fist wrote:Einsatz Coalition should invade Sondria.

Then we can all watch it fail miserably.

Watch what fail miserably? Sondria?

The Nuclear Fist wrote:Einsatz Coalition should invade Sondria.

Then we can all watch it fail miserably.

Aldar is invading Sondria. Aldar is Einsatz. Therefor, your wish is coming true.

The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:

The Nuclear Fist wrote:Einsatz Coalition should invade Sondria.

Then we can all watch it fail miserably.

Watch what fail miserably? Sondria?

Nope, TNF means the invasion would fail miserably.

The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:Is this now a dead fish, or are we going to do something with this thread with or without Aldar?

Patience is a virtue.

Patience may be a virtue, but when you have 3 weeks with zero activity, people start to wonder what's going on. Obviously, Aldar may have an rl reason, but obviously people will get a little sick of waiting after a few more weeks.

NS tells us Aldarminia's last login was 18 days ago. That makes him better than halfway to CTE. If, in nearly three weeks, he has not logged into NS when he is doubtless aware of his responsibility to forward Omnibellum to its opening moves, it is not because he has not had the time. While I think this was easy to see coming, (Omni was simply too ambitious for one man to carry off) it is no less frustrating or disappointing.

From the Sondrian perspective, we have, again, been teased into believing we were actually going to be able to fight a war we have expected from one player or another for something like two years. What's frustrating is that the perennial "bad guys" seem to be the same guys over and over again, so you'll have to forgive us for sounding a -little- jaded about anyone's chances of actually carrying out an exterior invasion of the region.

It would seem based on experience that there is nobody up to the task, possessing the level of organization, commitment or testicular fortitude to step up to the plate. I'd -love- for somebody to prove me wrong, but I believe that if I were to be proven wrong here, it would have happened already.

Am I saying Sondria is inviolable to exterior threats? Absolutely not. However, I am saying that the spinelessness we've seen from the creme of NS's aggressor nations seems indicative of an entire class of "villains" who talk a good game and don't have the minerals to carry their threatening and posturing into a properly organized and well-written RP thread.

Tl;dr: Come get some, Haven. You think you've got what it takes to make Sondria fail? We've heard it before from bigger and scarier nations.

Marquesan wrote:NS tells us Aldarminia's last login was 18 days ago. That makes him better than halfway to CTE. If, in nearly three weeks, he has not logged into NS when he is doubtless aware of his responsibility to forward Omnibellum to its opening moves, it is not because he has not had the time. While I think this was easy to see coming, (Omni was simply too ambitious for one man to carry off) it is no less frustrating or disappointing. From the Sondrian perspective, we have, again, been teased into believing we were actually going to be able to fight a war we have expected from one player or another for something like two years. What's frustrating is that the perennial "bad guys" seem to be the same guys over and over again, so you'll have to forgive us for sounding a -little- jaded about anyone's chances of actually carrying out an exterior invasion of the region. It would seem based on experience that there is nobody up to the task, possessing the level of organization, commitment or testicular fortitude to step up to the plate. I'd -love- for somebody to prove me wrong, but I believe that if I were to be proven wrong here, it would have happened already.

Am I saying Sondria is inviolable to exterior threats? Absolutely not. However, I am saying that the spinelessness we've seen from the creme of NS's aggressor nations seems indicative of an entire class of "villains" who talk a good game and don't have the minerals to carry their threatening and posturing into a properly organized and well-written RP thread.

Tl;dr: Come get some, Haven. You think you've got what it takes to make Sondria fail? We've heard it before from bigger and scarier nations.

That's quite an accusation, Marquesan. You've been approached twice by two larger nations about RPs, and twice, ended because of bad blood between both sides. Both sides are to blame.

Marquesan wrote:There has been bad blood because we've been made to believe threads were actually going to get going and then fell flat on their faces when we were made to wait and wait and wait and wait. It's hardly baseless and I didn't say we were blameless, either. I did however say that none of the great big baddies has actually done what they said they were going to do. How am I to read it any other way?

Player treatment is the sole reason the RPs never really took off. And besides, you only ever waited for one thread, so 'threads' should be 'thread'.
Enough of this though, we're both changing the subject. We can talk about it over IRC if you want later.

I differ with you on that.

I can cite specific examples, if you'd like, but for the sake of this thread and the public nature of the forum, I'd prefer to leave nameless people nameless. I think we all know who I'm implicating here.

Edit: We'll talk on IRC. I have a few other tasks to carry out this morning, but I'll be on later.

What is clear is we need to get some kind of organisation in the Einsatz/other bad guys camp. Right now we have some people who haven't posted with no reason given, 1 who hasn't posted because of a very good reason (and who has been polite enough to answer my tgs), a good crop of nations who have posted and are now waiting, and a few people who seem to want to split off. To be honest, withoug serious RL reasons, not posting shows a particular variety of disregard and arrogence directed at the people who are waiting, both in Einsatz and opposed to it. We can do it without Aldar, just about. We can't do it without everyone.

Nobody takes down Kappa Kappa Sondria. Bring it.

I've been given Carte Blanche by the other members of Terminal Solutions Incorporated. I'd be interested in seeing Sondria invaded. It would give Terminal Solutions an excellent opportunity to demonstrate what large-scale commercialized warfare is capable of.

That is, if NS's resident tough guys ever happen to mosey their way on over here in the first place.

This seems to have turned into a "let's all stomp the smaller regions" thread.

Marquesan wrote:I differ with you on that.

I can cite specific examples, if you'd like, but for the sake of this thread and the public nature of the forum, I'd prefer to leave nameless people nameless. I think we all know who I'm implicating here.

Edit: We'll talk on IRC. I have a few other tasks to carry out this morning, but I'll be on later.

Let me rephrase, as I did word slightly wrong.

I shouldn't have said 'sole,' but it was one of the main factors. Apologies.

Alexiandra wrote:This seems to have turned into a "let's all stomp the smaller regions" thread.

This thread is a good example of why a conflict of this scale needs to happen organically.

The Macabees wrote:

Alexiandra wrote:This seems to have turned into a "let's all stomp the smaller regions" thread.

This thread is a good example of why a conflict of this scale needs to happen organically.

Because too much planning and organization is clearly the issue here.

This thread is an example of why people who don't actually want to write something shouldn't say they do. It's not hard. I didn't want to write in this. So I just didn't say that I did. And if you can't do something, don't commit to it. It's really just that simple.

Delmonte wrote:

The Macabees wrote:
This thread is a good example of why a conflict of this scale needs to happen organically.

Because too much planning and organization is clearly the issue here.

This thread is an example of why people who don't actually want to write something shouldn't say they do. It's not hard. I didn't want to write in this. So I just didn't say that I did.

Why the assumption? Can you back your statement up?
You're too negative, Delmonte.

The Macabees wrote:

Alexiandra wrote:This seems to have turned into a "let's all stomp the smaller regions" thread.

This thread is a good example of why a conflict of this scale needs to happen organically.

There should be multiple players who act as OP who can set up, organize, and efficiently carry out the RP should one player leave for an extended period of time. If the need should arise, then we call a vote to continue the RP without Aldar. While I am positive that replacing Aldar would likely seem hectic, it can be done.